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Post by Get off of TMB on Apr 9, 2020 14:12:17 GMT -5
These people look professing.
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Post by speak on Apr 10, 2020 22:37:32 GMT -5
These people look professing. Professing what? we look nothing like those, I have never worn a hat, only a hard hat when in forestry or in construction.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Apr 11, 2020 8:44:25 GMT -5
No but the bun, dress and men wearing ties is a hangover from that era. It has evolved and adapted somewhat. And outside of meetings, these traditions are mostly obsolete. But the hair in the bun, dresses and ties during the fellowship meetings go back to that time period..with adaptations and modifications of course. The eastern US is more traditiomal than the west coast.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Apr 11, 2020 8:46:03 GMT -5
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Post by CherieKropp on Apr 11, 2020 9:02:37 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that, Gill. The Edwardian era followed the Victorian Era. Queen Victoria was succeeded by her son, King Edward VII, who reigned for less than a decade—from January 22, 1901, to May 6, 1910; His reign was called the Edwardian Era. Edward was born Albert Edward and was the oldest son of Queen Victoria and her husband, Prince Albert. He was Prince of Wales and heir to the throne for longer than any other person (up until that time). His mother reigned for 63 years and Edward was 59 years old when he became King.At that time, most all males and females wore head coverings in public. Even boys who wore newscaps and the girls wore bonnets. The Victorian Era
The reign of Queen Victoria (1837–1901) of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland for sixty-three years is called the Victorian Era; her subjects were called Victorians. Victorians were divided into three social classes: upper, middle, and working. Dress styles differed for each class. The upper and middle classes were considered the respectable Victorians. Most Workers and Friends were from the middle and working classes. Victorian Dress Styles. The reigning King or Queen set the styles through their ability to dictate the standard of what was acceptable at Court. This heavily influenced fashions in the UK and throughout the British Empire Dominions. The Victorian Era focused on natural beauty and modesty. Taking cues from their Queen, the respectable Victorian women's dress was subdued, dictated by propriety. They wore their long hair in upswept coiffures. Skirts fell naturally from their waists close to the body and swirled around their feet. Hats were small, necklines were high, and sleeves were long; there was very little skin showing. For working women, stockings were thick and black with no leg visible, at least until 1910. It was considered vulgar for a woman to wear trousers or slacks, except for ankle-length split skirts when riding horses. Like their Queen, Victorian women kept their hair healthy, glossy, and smooth, with every hair in place. Respectable ladies often emulated their Queen by parting their long hair in the center and arranging it in a variety of simple, dignified, upswept styles, such as plaited, wound into heavy coils, curled into long ringlets on the back of their heads, sometimes accessorized with jewels or feathers. Little girls and adolescents usually wore their hair down loose in ringlets, braided, or tied up with a ribbon Victorian men dressed according to their status and duties within society. Most respectable men sported facial hair and short hair. They wore close fitting shirts with collars and cuffs, topped with a necktie, waistcoat or vest, and trousers in muted colors, usually with suspenders, leather boots, and a cap or hat. Victorian men kept their hair short, neat, and styled with oil, often parted in the middle. Most wore a mustache, beard, or sideburns. Having a clean-shaven face returned to popularity in the early 1900s after Gillette patented the first disposable razor blade. Boys and girls wore white gowns as infants and toddlers. Boys graduated to the Knickerbocker suit.with baggy knee pants and knee socks. Girls wore long or short dresses with aprons. Both wore button-up boots. Young girls wore bonnets and boys wore caps and straw hats. Young ladies were expected to begin wearing long frocks and pinning their hair up when they reached 15-16 years. See more: victorianchildren.org/victorian-dress-and-victorian-style-clothing/
Early 2x2 Dress Styles. The early 2x2 female converts mirrored the appearance of Victorian women, ranging from plain to severe. They did not wear makeup or jewelry, not even a wedding band. The Sister Workers usually wore long-sleeve dark suits, blouses in sober shades, high necklines, black cotton stockings under floor-length skirts, court shoes, and demure sailor hats, much like the Faith Mission Sisters. "The ladies affect severity of attire … it has gone so far that feathers are discarded, and a straw sailor hat is the regulation head covering" ( Impartial Reporter, Jan. 29, 1903, TTT). The public had good reason for nicknaming the early Brother Workers Tramp Preachers. While they were tramping for the Lord, they only had one set of clothing, the one on their backs. Brown undershirts caused their white shirts to appear unclean. Newspapers reported that most 2x2 men wore very plain tweeds, rubber collars, flat caps, boots, facial hair, and shirts without ties or cuffs.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 11, 2020 19:51:02 GMT -5
The women rarely went out without their head covered. The upper class usually wore hats of different size and style based on your eliteness, and the lower classes covered their head with scarves, much like the hijab. youtu.be/9G1bn-XS5eM
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Post by speak on Apr 11, 2020 20:14:39 GMT -5
No but the bun, dress and men wearing ties is a hangover from that era. It has evolved and adapted somewhat. And outside of meetings, these traditions are mostly obsolete. But the hair in the bun, dresses and ties during the fellowship meetings go back to that time period..with adaptations and modifications of course. The eastern US is more traditiomal than the west coast. So like today in community I see many women with their hair up and see many women in dresses short medium and long and men wearing ties. So just to relate it to us is a load of hogwash.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 11, 2020 20:17:31 GMT -5
So like today in community I see many women with their hair up and see many women in dresses short medium and long and men wearing ties. So just to relate it to us is a load of hogwash. You must be talking about convention!
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Post by Get off of TMB on Apr 12, 2020 6:53:51 GMT -5
Speak, it is all from England They may be in a different denomination or occupation. But it is all rooted in Old England. To say otherwise, it just plain hogwash. The bun, dress, ties etc. are all from the old country. These beliefs don't originate in heaven.
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Post by speak on Apr 12, 2020 23:00:05 GMT -5
So like today in community I see many women with their hair up and see many women in dresses short medium and long and men wearing ties. So just to relate it to us is a load of hogwash. You must be talking about convention! How so?
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Post by speak on Apr 12, 2020 23:04:40 GMT -5
Speak, it is all from England They may be in a different denomination or occupation. But it is all rooted in Old England. To say otherwise, it just plain hogwash. The bun, dress, ties etc. are all from the old country. These beliefs don't originate in heaven. But you didn't say that you said These people look professing. Professing when? 1900, 1950, 2000? You made no distinction of when. I live today in the 2020s and am professing and don't look like that. That's why I said hogwash.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 13, 2020 7:39:30 GMT -5
Don't get your panties in a bunch, Speak. Professing people are of different ages and different regions, and different convictions. It doesn't mean that because someone says "they look professing", means "oh, Speak, they look like you".
"All those people look professing" doesn't mean "all professing look like that", the same as "all people that wear glasses have bad eyes, but not all people with bad eyes wear glasses."
You're jumping to too quick conclusions, so get over yourself.
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Post by speak on Apr 13, 2020 22:21:48 GMT -5
Don't get your panties in a bunch, Speak. Professing people are of different ages and different regions, and different convictions. It doesn't mean that because someone says "they look professing", means "oh, Speak, they look like you". "All those people look professing" doesn't mean "all professing look like that", the same as "all people that wear glasses have bad eyes, but not all people with bad eyes wear glasses." You're jumping to too quick conclusions, so get over yourself. Why are you being so snotty? are you superior in some way?
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 13, 2020 22:36:26 GMT -5
Don't get your panties in a bunch, Speak. Professing people are of different ages and different regions, and different convictions. It doesn't mean that because someone says "they look professing", means "oh, Speak, they look like you". "All those people look professing" doesn't mean "all professing look like that", the same as "all people that wear glasses have bad eyes, but not all people with bad eyes wear glasses." You're jumping to too quick conclusions, so get over yourself. Why are you being so snotty? are you superior in some way? I wasn't the one getting all offended and defensive because someone made a comment about how professing people look. It seems to me that because someone said something about professing people, you were the one got all superior and snotty.
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Post by speak on Apr 14, 2020 1:37:11 GMT -5
Why are you being so snotty? are you superior in some way? I wasn't the one getting all offended and defensive because someone made a comment about how professing people look. It seems to me that because someone said something about professing people, you were the one got all superior and snotty. Ha
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Post by Get off of TMB on Apr 19, 2020 7:44:54 GMT -5
I have seen Mormons and JW ministers go around all dressed up...suites and ties. I find casual attire more relaxing. Some workers would dress casually when not preaching and others had to wear a suite and tie everywhere they went. Some men like to go all dressed up. Dressed up men like to be bankers, funeral directors, ministers, attorneys etc... Often it isn't a sign of humility. I remember when businessmen, attorneys, etc. had this type of look and presence. It all came from old England back in the day. It didn't come from above. John the Baptist wore camel's hairs.
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