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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 2:26:41 GMT -5
I never said Christians should throw away the Bible. Obviously many people enjoy it, but understand that it is mostly fiction. I often get mine out of the bottom draw to look something up, but I don't dwell on it all the time, so as it dominates my thoughts. We need to exercise temperance in all things.
When we were kids we used to read fairy tales, but we don't read them now. It is fine to read fiction and enjoy it, but don't try to convince people that is factual and actually happened, or exists. Our intelligence is better than that now, we know what is real. and what is not.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 3, 2020 2:35:11 GMT -5
Nathan, you must understand that the Bible is a story book, and many of the stories are not reality. It is what people believed 2000 years ago, and Witches were part of it then. That is OK, right for the times, but the human mind has evolved, and we have got away from the "Dreamtime". Science has replaced "Dreamtime" and story telling is getting left in the past. Humans are now more interested in fact, and it needs to be that way so as we keep up with the time we are living in. Nathan I think why you are getting so much negative comment is because you claim that these stories are fact. Try and change your mind, so it does not believe the stories literally, enjoy them, but understand they are not real, just fiction. I think you will find that the majority of TMB members have this ability, and it is a bit frustrating when you keep pushing them as being real. Redback, should Christians throw away the Bible because it full of science fiction, myths, fairy tales in there? the world wide flood, part the red sea, the Nephim/giants and the humans look like ants to them, and Jesus turn water into wine, Jesus is walking on water, heal the blind, cure lepers, cast out demons out of people, raised the dead, and he even raised himself up after he died... Think of that!
It seems God's way and thinking are still the same yesterday, today and forever about Socerers/Witches/Witchcraft... God the Father and Christ will cast out the socerers/Witches out of his kingdom Rev. 21: 7-8 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Looks like you are signing yourself up for the lake of fire and brimstone.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 3:04:10 GMT -5
I never said Christians should throw away the Bible. Obviously many people enjoy it, but understand that it is mostly fiction. I often get mine out of the bottom draw to look something up, but I don't dwell on it all the time, so as it dominates my thoughts. We need to exercise temperance in all things. When we were kids we used to read fairy tales, but we don't read them now. It is fine to read fiction and enjoy it, but don't try to convince people that is factual and actually happened, or exists. Our intelligence is better than that now, we know what is real. and what is not. Why, would Billions Christians put their Faith and Salvation in myths, fairy tales? Would you put your faith in myths? Don't you think there is something greater power to make them to BELIEVE so much that they put their lives on the line and willing to die for it.
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Post by Grant on Apr 3, 2020 3:04:55 GMT -5
To show you what others witnessed on here and they let you know how they feel about things. I didn't write those things myself, but the readers who post and read what is going on here. We know what we have witnessed, Nathan. People are speaking out but you're not listening. Next you'll be quoting scripture when your behavior doesn't line up with it. Attacking elders in your church shows how little respect you have for your church. No wonder very few from your church come on here. It's not a safe place with you on here. You try and chase off any who don't agree with what you post. Seems like your role on here is to drive people from this board and your church. You're doing review and yourself a great disservice by posting what you are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 3:16:21 GMT -5
Nathan the problem is that faith stops you from believing fact. That is not good for the Human mind, because we live in a real World. That is what we should focus on.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 3, 2020 3:18:33 GMT -5
To show you what others witnessed on here and they let you know how they feel about things. I didn't write those things myself, but the readers who post and read what is going on here. We know what we have witnessed, Nathan. People are speaking out but you're not listening. Next you'll be quoting scripture when your behavior doesn't line up with it. Attacking elders in your church shows how little respect you have for your church. No wonder very few from your church come on here. It's not a safe place with you on here. You try and chase off any who don't agree with what you post. Seems like your role on here is to drive people from this board and your church. You're doing review and yourself a great disservice by posting what you are. Well said, better than I would have said it. To to keep on hitting the quote button where there are erroneous statements made, is like repeating a lie prefaced with “it was said”. It is disingenuous to say the least. For example, Openingact said things about Review such as “soon to be overseer”. Those of us in the know here here can see how unlikely that would be. But Nathan quoted it, then blamed Openingact. Other things were also quoted which were not right. Once could say it is a tactic, but that might giving too much credit, You can always delete what is comes up in the quote option, or choose quick reply. Thank you Redback and Enuf for your nice natured and insightful posts.
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Post by iam on Apr 3, 2020 5:26:25 GMT -5
It was the chief priests...aka overseers, the authority that the people in Jesus's day had the highest respect and admiration for, that hated Jesus because he dared to disagree with them. He came to his own and his own received him not...no wonder. Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 8:32:04 GMT -5
To show you what others witnessed on here and they let you know how they feel about things. I didn't write those things myself, but the readers who post and read what is going on here. We know what we have witnessed, Nathan. People are speaking out but you're not listening. Next you'll be quoting scripture when your behavior doesn't line up with it. Attacking elders in your church shows how little respect you have for your church. No wonder very few from your church come on here. It's not a safe place with you on here. You try and chase off any who don't agree with what you post. Seems like your role on here is to drive people from this board and your church. You're doing review and yourself a great disservice by posting what you are. Many 2x2s and a few workers came posting on here for over 20 years and most of them RAN away because they were attacked and chased out of here, many of them saw the negative spirits of many posters... That is the TRUTH.
Only Wally, myself and a few 2x2s are posting these days... eventually, we might go too because of the hateful spirits we have witness for over 20 yrs. We remember the OLD TMB Wild Wild West days! is getting better but NOT much.
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Post by CherieKropp on Apr 3, 2020 8:33:21 GMT -5
Nathan the problem is that faith stops you from believing fact. That is not good for the Human mind, because we live in a real World. That is what we should focus on. Well said, redback! Said another way... There are just two kinds of people: One to whom Belief...is more precious than Truth, And the other to whom Truth...is more precious than Belief.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 8:51:10 GMT -5
It was the chief priests...aka overseers, the authority that the people in Jesus's day had the highest respect and admiration for, that hated Jesus because he dared to disagree with them. He came to his own and his own received him not...no wonder.Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever. Amen, iam. Jesus and his apostles had warned us about these people, and Jesus church elders and believers teaching false doctrines to cause trouble for the ministry and within the churches through the centuries and is still happening in our days also and it's manifest here on this board to those who so call 2x2 church elders and 2x2s.
1) Paul addressed and warned about Jesus church elders in Acts 20:1; 28-30 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 2) John the apostle wrote about bad and good church elder in 3 John 9-12 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true. 3) Peter wrote in 2 Peter 2: 1-4 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 3, 2020 9:20:37 GMT -5
Australian gospel and fellowship meetings stopped a couple of weeks ago. Workers had intended to stay in their fields until meetings resumed. However, as more restrictions have been placed on movement in society, workers have been asked by the local head workers to go back to their families if that is possible or find a home that they can stay at indefinitely without being a financial burden. Last night, the Federal Government introduced the Rule of 2 - if an Australian is outside of their home with non-family they must only be with a maximum of one other person at any time. This makes it now illegal for 2 workers to go and visit anyone together. Interesting times - stay safe! satan never sleeps... The usual scapegoat.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 3, 2020 9:35:22 GMT -5
I never said Christians should throw away the Bible. Obviously many people enjoy it, but understand that it is mostly fiction. I often get mine out of the bottom draw to look something up, but I don't dwell on it all the time, so as it dominates my thoughts. We need to exercise temperance in all things. When we were kids we used to read fairy tales, but we don't read them now. It is fine to read fiction and enjoy it, but don't try to convince people that is factual and actually happened, or exists. Our intelligence is better than that now, we know what is real. and what is not. Why, would Billions Christians put their Faith and Salvation in myths, fairy tales?
Would you put your faith in myths?
Don't you think there is something greater power to make them to BELIEVE so much that they put their lives on the line and willing to die for it. But Nathan, that is exactly what you are doing, putting believing in myths and even creating a few of your own. As for people putting their lives on the line for irrational beliefs, -they do that all the time!
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 9:36:37 GMT -5
(Satan is) The usual scapegoat. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That His Time Is Short Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens and ye that dwell in them, Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.Six Things Satan Doesn’t Want You To Know About Himself ... 1. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That He Exists2. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know How He Operates 3. Satan DOES NOT Want You to Know that He Can’t Be Everywhere At Once 4. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That His Time Is Short5. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know He Was Defeated 6. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That You Have Authority Over Him agapegeek.com/2009/11/01/six-things-satan-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-himself/
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Post by Roselyn T on Apr 3, 2020 9:54:18 GMT -5
It was the chief priests...aka overseers, the authority that the people in Jesus's day had the highest respect and admiration for, that hated Jesus because he dared to disagree with them. He came to his own and his own received him not...no wonder.Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever. Amen, iam. Jesus and his apostles had warned us about these people, and Jesus church elders and believers teaching false doctrines to cause trouble for the ministry and within the churches through the centuries and is still happening in our days also and it's manifest here on this board to those who so call 2x2 church elders and 2x2s.
1) Paul addressed and warned about Jesus church elders in Acts 20:1; 28-30 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 2) John the apostle wrote about bad and good church elder in 3 John 9-12 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true. 3) Peter wrote in 2 Peter 2: 1-4 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.Oh the irony of this post !!! nathan you seriously need to stop and think about what YOU POST !!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 10:16:45 GMT -5
Curley uses firearms as they should be used - to harvest meat from the mountains. that shows a serious lack of understanding firearm history, that was not the original intent by any means... "should" is different from "original".
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Post by fixit on Apr 3, 2020 10:26:13 GMT -5
Curley uses firearms as they should be used - to harvest meat from the mountains. that shows a serious lack of understanding firearm history, that was not the original intent by any means... So Curly should use his firearms to make himself feel powerful around other people rather than to harvest meat from the hills?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 10:27:14 GMT -5
I have never considered what nathan posts "slander".
Not that they aren't, but if you're a "bitter ex", you are so used to slander that you begin to feel sorry for folks like nathan.
I called nathan a 'liar'. I thought I was fairly justified. Ought I to have just said "that's just the truth as I see it" rather than simply apologize?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 10:28:45 GMT -5
that shows a serious lack of understanding firearm history, that was not the original intent by any means... So Curly should use his firearms to make himself feel powerful around other people rather than to harvest meat from the hills? That's the Mercan way!
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 10:29:28 GMT -5
that shows a serious lack of understanding firearm history, that was not the original intent by any means... So Curly should use his firearms to make himself feel powerful around other people rather than to harvest meat from the hills? haha.. for years I thought curly was a she... because of his Avatar of little girl holding on to something. Guns/fire arms sales are sky rocketing in U.S.... Just saying... Stores and people are getting robbed during the Corona Virus pandemic Crisis ... People feel their safety are in danger from the bad guys.
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2020 11:26:24 GMT -5
You're upset because someone cast a spell on you??? Do you have any idea how insanely gullible that makes you sound? I thought you'd be smart enough to take it as a joke. Yea, right a JOKE... Annan/a Witch by her own admission, even mention in her another post about the time she put a spell on another person and it worked... So, does that see like a JOKE to you? I told her whatever SPELL she planned to do does NOT work on me because I have God on my side.
It was NOT a joke because ONE of the TMB moderators read Annan's post and he/she deleted her SPELL post against me while I went to bed. The next morning, I found out about it because Wally quoted her SPELL post in his post. Wally is my Witness and others had read it also.They did not. I proved you lied about this a long time ago. What's the matter with you that you keep repeating things that never happened and are not true.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 11:32:20 GMT -5
Yea, right a JOKE... Annan/a Witch by her own admission, even mention in her another post about the time she put a spell on another person and it worked... So, does that see like a JOKE to you? I told her whatever SPELL she planned to do does NOT work on me because I have God on my side.
It was NOT a joke because ONE of the TMB moderators read Annan's post and he/she deleted her SPELL post against me while I went to bed. The next morning, I found out about it because Wally quoted her SPELL post in his post. Wally is my Witness and others had read it also. They did not. I proved you lied about this a long time ago. What's the matter with you that you keep repeating things that never happened and are not true. So, snow... Can you Tell me us, which part did I lie in my post? Be very careful, what you say because Wally and the moderator who deleted Annan casting the Spell on me are reading this thread. Tell the truth now and don't tell us any half-bake story, ok.
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2020 11:45:05 GMT -5
I never said Christians should throw away the Bible. Obviously many people enjoy it, but understand that it is mostly fiction. I often get mine out of the bottom draw to look something up, but I don't dwell on it all the time, so as it dominates my thoughts. We need to exercise temperance in all things. When we were kids we used to read fairy tales, but we don't read them now. It is fine to read fiction and enjoy it, but don't try to convince people that is factual and actually happened, or exists. Our intelligence is better than that now, we know what is real. and what is not. Why, would Billions Christians put their Faith and Salvation in myths, fairy tales? Would you put your faith in myths? Don't you think there is something greater power to make them to BELIEVE so much that they put their lives on the line and willing to die for it.Because that's what humans do? They've had an ongoing love affair with the supernatural for a long time, mostly because they haven't understood the world they lived in so attributed all kinds of wrong beliefs to things. The writers of the bible were no different. They had no better understanding of anything in their world than any other culture. But we don't have to believe it anymore and we should just put it aside as how they thought back then before they learned differently.
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2020 11:50:16 GMT -5
So Curly should use his firearms to make himself feel powerful around other people rather than to harvest meat from the hills? haha.. for years I thought curly was a she... because of his Avatar of little girl holding on to something. Guns/fire arms sales are sky rocketing in U.S.... Just saying... Stores and people are getting robbed during the Corona Virus pandemic Crisis ... People feel their safety are in danger from the bad guys.It's more likely that the bad guys are the ones buying the guns. "We have seen the enemy, and it is us".
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2020 11:52:23 GMT -5
They did not. I proved you lied about this a long time ago. What's the matter with you that you keep repeating things that never happened and are not true. So, snow... Can you Tell me us, which part did I lie in my post? Be very careful, what you say because Wally and the moderator who deleted Annan casting the Spell on me are reading this thread. Tell the truth now and don't tell us any half-bake story, ok.
When you were saying that Admin deleted Annan's post, I went back and quoted it for you to see that you lied and it was still there. Everyone saw that. You claimed over and over it was deleted and so I went back, found it and quoted it.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 12:07:38 GMT -5
So, snow... Can you Tell me us, which part did I lie in my post? Be very careful, what you say because Wally and the moderator who deleted Annan casting the Spell on me are reading this thread. Tell the truth now and don't tell us any half-bake story, ok.
When you were saying that Admin deleted Annan's post, I went back and quoted it for you to see that you lied and it was still there. Everyone saw that. You claimed over and over it was deleted and so I went back, found it and quoted it. Sorry, if I said the Adm. my mistake, I meant the Moderator that monitoring the board because the Adm. didn't KNOW about Annan casting a spell on me …. I believe most of the readers KNOW it was the moderator and NOT the Adm. because I have told this story so many times on TMB. That is NOT a lie but a minor mistake... So, tell us which part in my post is a lie beside my mistake Moderator instead Admin.
According to your post it seems like my post was a total lie. You picked a minor mistake and said I lie, and didn't explained what I lie about... thanks, for your clarification what I lied about... typing the wrong title from Adm. instead the moderator.
You should know and figure it out the mistake and mentioned it to me it was my error INSTEAD saying it was a LIE! The word LIE is a very strong word to use, you should have said my error.
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Post by Annan on Apr 3, 2020 12:42:52 GMT -5
When you were saying that Admin deleted Annan's post, I went back and quoted it for you to see that you lied and it was still there. Everyone saw that. You claimed over and over it was deleted and so I went back, found it and quoted it. Sorry, if I said the Adm. my mistake, I meant the Moderator that monitoring the board because the Adm. didn't KNOW about Annan casting a spell on me …. I believe most of the readers KNOW it was the moderator and NOT the Adm. because I have told this story so many times on TMB. That is NOT a lie but a minor mistake... So, tell us which part in my post is a lie beside my mistake Moderator instead Admin.
According to your post it seems like my post was a total lie. You picked a minor mistake and said I lie, and didn't explained what I lie about... thanks, for your clarification what I lied about... typing the wrong title from Adm. instead the moderator.
You should know and figure it out the mistake and mentioned it to me it was my error INSTEAD saying it was a LIE! The word LIE is a very strong word to use, you should have said my error.No, no, no, dear boy. You are NOT getting out of this one. The lie is that my post was deleted. It was not. It was proven to you over and over, yet you keep repeating this lie. Who told you my post was deleted? Did you attempt to look for yourself? EDITED TO ADD: I just went back and looked. My post is still there. Again I ask, who told you it was removed, Nathan? Why do you continue this lie? Why do you not verify your facts?
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2020 12:52:42 GMT -5
When you were saying that Admin deleted Annan's post, I went back and quoted it for you to see that you lied and it was still there. Everyone saw that. You claimed over and over it was deleted and so I went back, found it and quoted it. Sorry, if I said the Adm. my mistake, I meant the Moderator that monitoring the board because the Adm. didn't KNOW about Annan casting a spell on me …. I believe most of the readers KNOW it was the moderator and NOT the Adm. because I have told this story so many times on TMB. That is NOT a lie but a minor mistake... So, tell us which part in my post is a lie beside my mistake Moderator instead Admin.
According to your post it seems like my post was a total lie. You picked a minor mistake and said I lie, and didn't explained what I lie about... thanks, for your clarification what I lied about... typing the wrong title from Adm. instead the moderator.
You should know and figure it out the mistake and mentioned it to me it was my error INSTEAD saying it was a LIE! The word LIE is a very strong word to use, you should have said my error.
Nathan what part of this don't you understand. You said it was deleted and I went back and found it and re-quoted it for everyone to see that it wasn't deleted like you said it was. IT WAS NOT DELETED LIKE YOU CLAIMED BECAUSE I FOUND IT, RE-QUOTED IT, AFTER YOUR CLAIM IT WAS DELETED.
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2020 12:54:31 GMT -5
Sorry, if I said the Adm. my mistake, I meant the Moderator that monitoring the board because the Adm. didn't KNOW about Annan casting a spell on me …. I believe most of the readers KNOW it was the moderator and NOT the Adm. because I have told this story so many times on TMB. That is NOT a lie but a minor mistake... So, tell us which part in my post is a lie beside my mistake Moderator instead Admin.
According to your post it seems like my post was a total lie. You picked a minor mistake and said I lie, and didn't explained what I lie about... thanks, for your clarification what I lied about... typing the wrong title from Adm. instead the moderator.
You should know and figure it out the mistake and mentioned it to me it was my error INSTEAD saying it was a LIE! The word LIE is a very strong word to use, you should have said my error. The lie is that my post was deleted. It was not. It was proven to you over and over. You keep repeating this lie. Who told you my post was deleted? Did you attempt to look for yourself? Maybe you need to go back to it and re-post it again so he can see that it still exists? I haven't looked recently to see if it's gone but back when he claimed it was deleted I took the time to find it and re-post it.
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