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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 8:54:13 GMT -5
Well it might be your experience but it is not mine or those I know. I'm sure you would think that. Everyone does. It's going to be such a shock. So are you an expert in this? And is it that you know the mind of man to make such a judgement?
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 8:58:13 GMT -5
every church has that ritual/tradition some just raise their hands some call it an alter call some call it being born again.... You would agree that it means nothing for our salvation?. So you would say that making a declaration to others that you want to live for God is not right? That Jesus is your lord? I think this is coming from somewhere else, unwillingness maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 9:35:06 GMT -5
every church has that ritual/tradition some just raise their hands some call it an alter call some call it being born again.... You would agree that it means nothing for our salvation?. no, you must profess/be born again/accept christ to be saved...you don't get to heaven by osmosis...
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Post by chuck on Mar 22, 2020 9:57:51 GMT -5
Is professing necessary for salvation? What do you think professing is? It's not a trick question. Is professing nesscersay for salvation?
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Post by chuck on Mar 22, 2020 9:59:26 GMT -5
You would agree that it means nothing for our salvation?. So you would say that making a declaration to others that you want to live for God is not right? That Jesus is your lord? I think this is coming from somewhere else, unwillingness maybe. The only unwillingness going on here is the answering of a question. Edit, this is a common repsonse when on the defensive. I would urge you to drop this tactic wether you do it knowingly or subconsciously because it is spiritual abuse.
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Post by Annan on Mar 22, 2020 11:04:49 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers.
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 12:20:31 GMT -5
They will continue to live off the resources of their members. Keep on tithing is the word these days from clergy. E transfers work so keep on tithing. They will live off the resources that we delightedly give them. Definitely your choice. But that is all they can do is expect you to delightedly continue giving them your resources. When people lose their jobs and are struggling to just sustain their immediate family will it still be so delightedly given? I am sure in some cases it will. I am actually glad that someone is going to look out for them because they have no ability to get a job being mostly untrained. I would hope to see some of the coffers opened by them though to help group members that are going to be going through hard times.
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 12:23:50 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Well some of them anyway. Can anyone actually imagine having to quarantine with review!
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Post by nathan on Mar 22, 2020 12:25:22 GMT -5
They will live off the resources that we delightedly give them. Definitely your choice. But that is all they can do is expect you to delightedly continue giving them your resources. When people lose their jobs and are struggling to just sustain their immediate family will it still be so delightedly given? I am sure in some cases it will. I am actually glad that someone is going to look out for them because they have no ability to get a job being mostly untrained. I would hope to see some of the coffers opened by them though to help group members that are going to be going through hard times. NOT just to spent some of the trust funds for the needy... I encourage the friends who have the surplus to help the friends who are needy and their neighbors who are needy also. We are sharing our foods, water to my brother in law, his wife divorced him and took the two children with her.... Accused him of abusing the kids, this way she could get custody of the two kids to live with her and her boyfriend, now is her husband.
She and her new husband had it planned for a long time! Now, he is paying child support until the age of 21 and can't see his two children for a long, long time. She got everything because of his false accusation with the children.
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 12:57:27 GMT -5
Definitely your choice. But that is all they can do is expect you to delightedly continue giving them your resources. When people lose their jobs and are struggling to just sustain their immediate family will it still be so delightedly given? I am sure in some cases it will. I am actually glad that someone is going to look out for them because they have no ability to get a job being mostly untrained. I would hope to see some of the coffers opened by them though to help group members that are going to be going through hard times. NOT just to spent some of the trust funds for the needy... I encourage the friends who have the surplus to help the friends who are needy and their neighbors who are needy also. We are sharing our foods, water to my brother in law, his wife divorced him and took the two children with her.... Accused him of abusing the kids, this way she could get custody of the two kids to live with her and her boyfriend. Yes it's a great time to do what we can to help others. Many are going to need it. Good for you Nathan.
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Post by iam on Mar 22, 2020 13:04:08 GMT -5
I'm sure you would think that. Everyone does. It's going to be such a shock. So are you an expert in this? And is it that you know the mind of man to make such a judgement? Are you offended speak? I am just speaking the truth that has been revealed to ME. It's not your truth, that is obvious. That doesn't bother me. But the truth I have DOES seem to hit a nerve with you. So be it.
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Post by iam on Mar 22, 2020 13:07:04 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Well I for one would be delighted to have the workers stay with me because they need salvation too and if we care for their souls we can teach them the truth. Mercy for all.
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Post by slowtosee on Mar 22, 2020 13:30:23 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Well some of them anyway. Can anyone actually imagine having to quarantine with review! Wouldn’t be at all surprised if he woujd be quite all right to be in quarantine with . I recall living with a “bullfighter “ type of guy , in my single days , that was VERY VERY challenging and “ignorant” character in so many ways , and yet , there was a loyalty and care under all that , and , to his dying day , was very evident , but had to overlook all the other “nonsense “ Of course , as you know , often the characteristics of people’s online persona are not at all , who they really are ? It seems like for some people , hiding or not even hiding behind anonymous identies online , brings out the worst of them ? - or maybe the best too - virtue signallers anyhow ? Whatever - just yakking - in somewhat self quarantine - with a beautiful cougar lady- well ok - she’s only a little older than myself - but not too painful to be quarantined with. Do get some strange looks , when I introduce her as my present wife , or my first wife- both true. Lol Cheers Alvin
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 13:34:42 GMT -5
Well some of them anyway. Can anyone actually imagine having to quarantine with review! Wouldn’t be at all surprised if he woujd be quite all right to be in quarantine with . I recall living with a “bullfighter “ type of guy , in my single days , that was VERY VERY challenging and “ignorant” character in so many ways , and yet , there was a loyalty and care under all that , and , to his dying day , was very evident , but had to overlook all the other “nonsense “ Of course , as you know , often the characteristics of people’s online persona are not at all , who they really are ? It seems like for some people , hiding or not even hiding behind anonymous identies online , brings out the worst of them ? - or maybe the best too - virtue signallers anyhow ? Whatever - just yakking - in somewhat self quarantine - with a beautiful cougar lady- well ok - she’s only a little older than myself - but not too painful to be quarantined with. Do get some strange looks , when I introduce her as my present wife , or my first wife- both true. Lol Cheers Alvin That's true. If it's in their best interest they can be quite charming. So he's probably on his best behavior at the moment, hopefully. One of the things that do concern me is this quarantining will likely bring the levels of domestic violence and child abuse to higher levels. People are used to being able to get breaks from their kids (school or daycare) and from there spouses (work) and that isn't happening in a good number of households at the moment.
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Post by slowtosee on Mar 22, 2020 13:39:34 GMT -5
Well some of them anyway. Can anyone actually imagine having to quarantine with review! Wouldn’t be at all surprised if he woujd be quite all right to be in quarantine with ?. I recall living with a “bullfighter “ type of guy , in my single days , that was VERY VERY challenging and “ignorant” character in so many ways , and yet , there was a loyalty and care under all that , and , to his dying days , was very evident , but had to overlook all the other “nonsense “ Of course , as you know , often the characteristics of people’s online persona are not at all , who they really are ? It seems like for some people , hiding or not even hiding behind anonymous identies online , brings out the worst of them ? - or maybe the best too - virtue signallers anyhow ? Whatever - just yakking - in somewhat self quarantine - with a beautiful cougar lady- well ok - she’s only a little older than myself - but not too painful to be quarantined with. Do get some strange looks , when I introduce her as my present wife , or my first wife- both true- and just to even the score - she does the same - boytoy blah blah - cradle robbers anyhow Lol On second thought , I don’t think I’d really want to be in quarantine with my old friend so badly now - Ignore my ramblings Cheers Alvin
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Post by nathan on Mar 22, 2020 13:46:05 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Well I for one would be delighted to have the workers stay with me because they need salvation too and if we care for their souls we can teach them the truth. Mercy for all. Most of the workers are good, sincere, godly people... There are some bad apples among them but the good outshine the bad and rotten apples. Usually, the workers do more good for the friends than they do for the workers... If everyone does their parts make the burden is lighter on the workers and the friends.
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 14:05:55 GMT -5
Well I for one would be delighted to have the workers stay with me because they need salvation too and if we care for their souls we can teach them the truth. Mercy for all. Most of the workers are good, sincere, godly people... There are some bad apples among them but the good outshine the bad and rotten apples. Usually, the workers do more good for the friends than they do for the workers... If everyone does their parts make the burden is lighter on the workers and the friends.From what I remember of the workers I'd say that's fairly accurate. Most I thought were good sincere people. I did meet some though that I didn't even want to be around for any time.
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Post by nathan on Mar 22, 2020 15:07:46 GMT -5
Most of the workers are good, sincere, godly people... There are some bad apples among them but the good outshine the bad and rotten apples. Usually, the workers do more good for the friends than they do for the workers... If everyone does their parts make the burden is lighter on the workers and the friends. From what I remember of the workers I'd say that's fairly accurate. Most I thought were good sincere people. I did meet some though that I didn't even want to be around for any time. Yes, I met a few bad ones in my 40 years in the fellowship and in the work myself. I don't want to ask these people Bible questions or anything, I just leave them alone and warn others to watch out and be careful when they are with them.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:15:47 GMT -5
What do you think professing is? It's not a trick question. Is professing nesscersay for salvation? Professing Christ is your Lord and master, yes.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:17:32 GMT -5
So you would say that making a declaration to others that you want to live for God is not right? That Jesus is your lord? I think this is coming from somewhere else, unwillingness maybe. The only unwillingness going on here is the answering of a question. Edit, this is a common repsonse when on the defensive. I would urge you to drop this tactic wether you do it knowingly or subconsciously because it is spiritual abuse. Remember I have asked questions as well which you have neglected to answer. Your edit makes no sense.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:18:32 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Why? If love is there then there is no problem.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:23:32 GMT -5
They will live off the resources that we delightedly give them. Definitely your choice. But that is all they can do is expect you to delightedly continue giving them your resources. When people lose their jobs and are struggling to just sustain their immediate family will it still be so delightedly given? I am sure in some cases it will. I am actually glad that someone is going to look out for them because they have no ability to get a job being mostly untrained. I would hope to see some of the coffers opened by them though to help group members that are going to be going through hard times. Now come on I would have thought you would have known that the workers are generally quite intelligent people who would see dire need and would not impose themselves on such. I disagree with mostly untrained, here they are to have some work experience before entering the work. We have nurses and some very highly trained people in the work.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:24:40 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Well some of them anyway. Can anyone actually imagine having to quarantine with review! Actually he is a very nice chap, just a pity he failed on here.
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 16:26:32 GMT -5
Definitely your choice. But that is all they can do is expect you to delightedly continue giving them your resources. When people lose their jobs and are struggling to just sustain their immediate family will it still be so delightedly given? I am sure in some cases it will. I am actually glad that someone is going to look out for them because they have no ability to get a job being mostly untrained. I would hope to see some of the coffers opened by them though to help group members that are going to be going through hard times. Now come on I would have thought you would have known that the workers are generally quite intelligent people who would see dire need and would not impose themselves on such. I disagree with mostly untrained, here they are to have some work experience before entering the work. We have nurses and some very highly trained people in the work. That's good then. I am glad that they are trained and if they are nurses they can hopefully help out. We will need every nurse we can get I think. I would hope they would go to the families that can afford to put them up. I would like to think that is what they would do. I would also like to think that the coffers would open up for those who are in need in the group.
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Post by snow on Mar 22, 2020 16:27:36 GMT -5
Well some of them anyway. Can anyone actually imagine having to quarantine with review! Actually he is a very nice chap, just a pity he failed on here. I wonder what happened that he was so nasty on here? I have never heard a worker talk like he did. I was shocked to be honest. Not like I remembered them.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:27:43 GMT -5
So are you an expert in this? And is it that you know the mind of man to make such a judgement? Are you offended speak? I am just speaking the truth that has been revealed to ME. It's not your truth, that is obvious. That doesn't bother me. But the truth I have DOES seem to hit a nerve with you. So be it. Revealed to you? It is written in the Bible But when you want to spout truth do it honestly not with a judgmental attitude. That is the offence.
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Post by speak on Mar 22, 2020 16:30:02 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the folks that have to quarantine with the workers. Well I for one would be delighted to have the workers stay with me because they need salvation too and if we care for their souls we can teach them the truth. Mercy for all. Teach them the truth? I have a relation who speaks the same way as if he is somebody, he is called "he knows".
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Post by iam on Mar 22, 2020 16:46:31 GMT -5
Well I for one would be delighted to have the workers stay with me because they need salvation too and if we care for their souls we can teach them the truth. Mercy for all. Teach them the truth? I have a relation who speaks the same way as if he is somebody, he is called "he knows". Sounds like yourself. Must be related 😄
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