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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 25, 2019 23:32:59 GMT -5
Maybe you should take your own advice jetmech !!! He is a charlatan and a con artist !! Do some more research ! RoselynT that's what you say about the TRUTH, about Nathan, Wally, and even about me! What "gripes" you so?
You seem to be only at odds with EVERYTHING. I tell you … inhale, exhale, relaaaaax …. let it go … leeeettt it gooooooo … that's it … breathe in , breathe out …. lettt it gooooo 'Rose' … you'll be ok. Now, practice those breathing exercises awhile and after you get your 'self' settled down a little bit … why don't you sit down, relax, and watch some of Dr Wallach's videos … you might learn something.
If we saw someone about to jump off of a cliff into a fire, Jet, -do you think that if we really cared about that person that we should just look the other way and let them jump?
Whether we agree with that person about a lot of things, -I think that we would be remiss to not make them aware of a danger. In other words, Jet, -we care about you.
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 25, 2019 23:53:12 GMT -5
I read about him. He’s a naturopath. Not a Medical doctor nor a Doctor of Osteopathy. His title “doctor” is from his veterinarian practice. A lot of his research was done during hisc days. Wikipedia: Naturopathy or naturopathic medicine is a form of alternative medicine that employs an array of pseudoscientific practices branded as "natural", "non-invasive", or promoting "self-healing". The ideology and methods of naturopathy are based on vitalism and folk medicine, rather than evidence-based medicine (EBM).[1] Naturopathic practitioners generally recommend against following modern medical practices, including but not limited to medical testing, drugs, vaccinations, and surgery.[2][3][4][5] Instead, naturopathic practice rely on unscientific notions, often leading naturopaths to diagnoses and treatments that have no factual merit Now I feel like an old dog walkin' sideways ... I'm sorry I ever mentioned Dr Wallach now. The scary part too is that he's from Missouri (the 'SHOW ME') state!!! I need to find me a hole to dive into. LOL ... I'll never mention him again ... for sure! My apologies. Wallach's being a " veterinarian" is not the problem.
I have great respect for veterinarians. Think about it, -they have to know about the bodies of a multitude of animals.
THAT isn't the problem, -it is how he sued his knowledge to misconstrue it to make himself a lot of money off of people who fall prey to his scheme.
Have you looked at the cost of the products he sells? If not please do.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 26, 2019 1:06:39 GMT -5
Now I feel like an old dog walkin' sideways ... I'm sorry I ever mentioned Dr Wallach now. The scary part too is that he's from Missouri (the 'SHOW ME') state!!! I need to find me a hole to dive into. LOL ... I'll never mention him again ... for sure! My apologies. Wallach's being a " veterinarian" is not the problem.
I have great respect for veterinarians. Think about it, -they have to know about the bodies of a multitude of animals.
THAT isn't the problem, -it is how he sued his knowledge to misconstrue it to make himself a lot of money off of people who fall prey to his scheme.
Have you looked at the cost of the products he sells? If not please do.
There was a professing woman in Colorado some years ago who was a naturopath. She charged Big dollars for her products/services. They do go through some kind of educational program but I’m not all certain what it is.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 26, 2019 1:38:44 GMT -5
Wallach's being a " veterinarian" is not the problem.
I have great respect for veterinarians. Think about it, -they have to know about the bodies of a multitude of animals.
THAT isn't the problem, -it is how he sued his knowledge to misconstrue it to make himself a lot of money off of people who fall prey to his scheme.
Have you looked at the cost of the products he sells? If not please do.
There was a professing woman in Colorado some years ago who was a naturopath. She charged Big dollars for her products/services. They do go through some kind of educational program but I’m not all certain what it is. It's called ..How to fleece the gullible.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 26, 2019 2:34:57 GMT -5
There was a professing woman in Colorado some years ago who was a naturopath. She charged Big dollars for her products/services. They do go through some kind of educational program but I’m not all certain what it is. It's called ..How to fleece the gullible. I had a little aunt who was into vitamin, minerals, and all kinds of herbal supplements. She took so many by the time she got them all taken at breakfast; she had drank so much water she was full and couldn’t eat her breakfast. I finally convinced her to drink milk instead of water. I wanted to tell her to drink ensure but she already was overloaded with vitamins. She got real sick and started vomiting until she bled so bad they had to rush her to the hospital. Dr found out she’d damaged her liver with all her supplements. It was hard to convince her to leave them off. I finally told her to just take Silver Centrum and/or drink Ensure. She never got very strong after that.
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Post by snow on Dec 26, 2019 14:52:57 GMT -5
Wallach's being a " veterinarian" is not the problem.
I have great respect for veterinarians. Think about it, -they have to know about the bodies of a multitude of animals.
THAT isn't the problem, -it is how he sued his knowledge to misconstrue it to make himself a lot of money off of people who fall prey to his scheme.
Have you looked at the cost of the products he sells? If not please do.
There was a professing woman in Colorado some years ago who was a naturopath. She charged Big dollars for her products/services. They do go through some kind of educational program but I’m not all certain what it is. As far as I know they go through through to have a Bachelor or arts or science and then an additional 4 years in naturopathic medicine.
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Post by snow on Dec 26, 2019 14:55:43 GMT -5
It's called ..How to fleece the gullible. I had a little aunt who was into vitamin, minerals, and all kinds of herbal supplements. She took so many by the time she got them all taken at breakfast; she had drank so much water she was full and couldn’t eat her breakfast. I finally convinced her to drink milk instead of water. I wanted to tell her to drink ensure but she already was overloaded with vitamins. She got real sick and started vomiting until she bled so bad they had to rush her to the hospital. Dr found out she’d damaged her liver with all her supplements. It was hard to convince her to leave them off. I finally told her to just take Silver Centrum and/or drink Ensure. She never got very strong after that. Has it been your experience that a good number of the friends do lean more towards alternative medicines like your aunt. I remember where I grew up that there were quite a few that took a great number of vitamins and other supplements. My dad got into it at one point when one of the friends talked him into taking a bunch of stuff. He didn't do it for too long though. It gets quite expensive.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 26, 2019 17:37:31 GMT -5
I had a little aunt who was into vitamin, minerals, and all kinds of herbal supplements. She took so many by the time she got them all taken at breakfast; she had drank so much water she was full and couldn’t eat her breakfast. I finally convinced her to drink milk instead of water. I wanted to tell her to drink ensure but she already was overloaded with vitamins. She got real sick and started vomiting until she bled so bad they had to rush her to the hospital. Dr found out she’d damaged her liver with all her supplements. It was hard to convince her to leave them off. I finally told her to just take Silver Centrum and/or drink Ensure. She never got very strong after that. Has it been your experience that a good number of the friends do lean more towards alternative medicines like your aunt. I remember where I grew up that there were quite a few that took a great number of vitamins and other supplements. My dad got into it at one point when one of the friends talked him into taking a bunch of stuff. He didn't do it for too long though. It gets quite expensive. Yes, it was a 2x2 fad for a number of years. It was spread through convention gossip.
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Post by jetmech on Dec 29, 2019 11:51:42 GMT -5
Has it been your experience that a good number of the friends do lean more towards alternative medicines like your aunt. I remember where I grew up that there were quite a few that took a great number of vitamins and other supplements. My dad got into it at one point when one of the friends talked him into taking a bunch of stuff. He didn't do it for too long though. It gets quite expensive. Yes, it was a 2x2 fad for a number of years. It was spread through convention gossip.[/quote My Dad, an ex-worker, used to buy "runt" baby pigs at the sale barn (livestock auction) sometimes he paid a dollar for them or five dollars ... sometimes they're was a sign " ... runt pigs FREE ..." These pigs would be in bad shape; dragging their hind legs around, somebof them unable to stand up at all, and very thin etc. He'd bring the pigs home, put them in a nice little pig pen that was clean, with a red heat lamp over their sleeping area, and he put trough of selenium pellets in the pen, along with a trough of mineral supplement pellets. The piggies LOVED the pellets and these Supplements stimulated their appetite. So, he added a trough to put ground corn after a couple of days. In about 3 to 6 weeks those pigs would be on their feet, running around pestering frolicking and playing with each other! Then, their growth rate would rapidly increase and in no time they were big, healthy, 80 to 100 lb pigs! He'd take them back to the same sale barn and sell them, by the pound, at the market rate of that day and make a ton of money on them. This was sort of a hobby he had in addition to the numerous other farming obligations he had. I believe humans could do the same. Dr Wallach compares many ailaments livestock get to ailaments humans get.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 29, 2019 12:15:11 GMT -5
Yes, it was a 2x2 fad for a number of years. It was spread through convention gossip.[/quote My Dad, an ex-worker, used to buy "runt" baby pigs at the sale barn (livestock auction) sometimes he paid a dollar for them or five dollars ... sometimes they're was a sign " ... runt pigs FREE ..." These pigs would be in bad shape; dragging their hind legs around, somebof them unable to stand up at all, and very thin etc. He'd bring the pigs home, put them in a nice little pig pen that was clean, with a red heat lamp over their sleeping area, and he put trough of selenium pellets in the pen, along with a trough of mineral supplement pellets. The piggies LOVED the pellets and these Supplements stimulated their appetite. So, he added a trough to put ground corn after a couple of days. In about 3 to 6 weeks those pigs would be on their feet, running around pestering frolicking and playing with each other! Then, their growth rate would rapidly increase and in no time they were big, healthy, 80 to 100 lb pigs! He'd take them back to the same sale barn and sell them, by the pound, at the market rate of that day and make a ton of money on them. This was sort of a hobby he had in addition to the numerous other farming obligations he had. I believe humans could do the same. Dr Wallach compares many ailaments livestock get to ailaments humans get. He' My husband worked closely with the farm animal vets in our area on cattle and horse issues. Then I started working with them in providing long term continued care for sticky problem ailments in animals. One year somehow I got poison ivy on the back of my neck right in the hairline which made it difficult to treat. My husband had a small tube of mange medicine in his pickup from the vets so he put some in the rash and it was gone in a couple of days. Every summer that area broke out again and he’d put that mange medicine in it and it’s go away in a couple of days. We couldn’t find that poison ivy for the longest time. But finally found it growing inside a crevice in a rock wall I had to mow the lawn close to. It was about 3-4 high. He finally got it cleaned out and killed and I quit breaking out. The tree limbs over the rock wall apparently carried the sap from the cube and when I mowed under them it got on my neck and my hair. Years later, that very medicine turned out to be part of the IV treatment for heart worms. I guess that’s why I never got heart worms! 😀
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Post by jetmech on Dec 29, 2019 12:35:36 GMT -5
My husband worked closely with the farm animal vets in our area on cattle and horse issues. Then I started working with them in providing long term continued care for sticky problem ailments in animals. One year somehow I got poison ivy on the back of my neck right in the hairline which made it difficult to treat. My husband had a small tube of mange medicine in his pickup from the vets so he put some in the rash and it was gone in a couple of days. Every summer that area broke out again and he’d put that mange medicine in it and it’s go away in a couple of days. We couldn’t find that poison ivy for the longest time. But finally found it growing inside a crevice in a rock wall I had to mow the lawn close to. It was about 3-4 high. He finally got it cleaned out and killed and I quit breaking out. The tree limbs over the rock wall apparently carried the sap from the cube and when I mowed under them it got on my neck and my hair. Years later, that very medicine turned out to be part of the IV treatment for heart worms. I guess that’s why I never got heart worms! 😀 One thing Dr Wallach compares is fibermyalgia in humans ... he compares this as being exactly the same thing as STIFF LAMB DISEASE or WHITE MUSCLE DISEASE. He says they are exactly the same thing and tells how to treat it. I don't take ANY of Dr Wallach's products. NONE, because they are way too expensive. I did take his suggestion of taking liquid calcium, magnesium, manganese, phosphorus, vitamin D3, Boron, and knox gelatin. I get the knox gelatin at WalMart, and the other products I get at VITAMIN SHOPPE. My lifelong suffering of back pain is gone. I don't want to claim Dr Wallach is a "saint" ... he's a capitalist for sure; but, I'd say he knows a lot more about medicine than the general public. I've read about his "scams," and I can see they're scams; but, main stream pharma is full of rip offs and scams too, so I try to sort out what makes sense and treat myself in moderation. I have an identical twin to compare myself with. He gets a flu shot every year, I have NEVER had a flu shot. My twin gets the flu every year, and gets sick every year. I never get the flu and have not been sick for YEARS. The reason I don't get flu shots is because there are several strains of flu a person can possibly get. They do not know exactly what strain of flu is going to hit an area, so they can only guess, and the flu shots they administer are "WRONG" a whopping 96% of the time. That's why oeople still get the flu even after having flu shots!!!
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Post by jetmech on Dec 29, 2019 12:36:01 GMT -5
My husband worked closely with the farm animal vets in our area on cattle and horse issues. Then I started working with them in providing long term continued care for sticky problem ailments in animals. One year somehow I got poison ivy on the back of my neck right in the hairline which made it difficult to treat. My husband had a small tube of mange medicine in his pickup from the vets so he put some in the rash and it was gone in a couple of days. Every summer that area broke out again and he’d put that mange medicine in it and it’s go away in a couple of days. We couldn’t find that poison ivy for the longest time. But finally found it growing inside a crevice in a rock wall I had to mow the lawn close to. It was about 3-4 high. He finally got it cleaned out and killed and I quit breaking out. The tree limbs over the rock wall apparently carried the sap from the cube and when I mowed under them it got on my neck and my hair. Years later, that very medicine turned out to be part of the IV treatment for heart worms. I guess that’s why I never got heart worms! 😀
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Post by jetmech on Dec 29, 2019 12:50:16 GMT -5
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 29, 2019 13:53:03 GMT -5
One thing Dr Wallach compares is fibermyalgia in humans ... he compares this as being exactly the same thing as STIFF LAMB DISEASE or WHITE MUSCLE DISEASE. He says they are exactly the same thing and tells how to treat it. I don't take ANY of Dr Wallach's products. NONE, because they are way too expensive. I did take his suggestion of taking liquid calcium, magnesium, manganese, phosphorus, vitamin D3, Boron, and knox gelatin. I get the knox gelatin at WalMart, and the other products I get at VITAMIN SHOPPE. My lifelong suffering of back pain is gone. I don't want to claim Dr Wallach is a "saint" ... he's a capitalist for sure; but, I'd say he knows a lot more about medicine than the general public. I've read about his "scams," and I can see they're scams; but, main stream pharma is full of rip offs and scams too, so I try to sort out what makes sense and treat myself in moderation. I have an identical twin to compare myself with. He gets a flu shot every year, I have NEVER had a flu shot. My twin gets the flu every year, and gets sick every year. I never get the flu and have not been sick for YEARS. The reason I don't get flu shots is because there are several strains of flu a person can possibly get. They do not know exactly what strain of flu is going to hit an area, so they can only guess, and the flu shots they administer are "WRONG" a whopping 96% of the time. That's why oeople still get the flu even after having flu shots!!! I think they’re finding out there are different causes for fibromyalgia. There’s one they call fibromyalgic arthritis which is nothing more then a rheumatoid disease. It destroys the soft tissues as well as the joints, so I’ve been told. As to the flu shots, it’s true the flu shots may not cover every viable strain of a flu season but it does seem to help keep the flu attacks frim being so bad for some people.
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Post by rational on Jan 8, 2020 20:45:05 GMT -5
Didn't you just answer your own question? You say you believe the bible is the word of the god you believe in, and, you state it says he created everything, so the logical conclusion to your question would be 'yes, your god created all diseases'. Right? You're right .... in a way I did answer my own question; but, I was listening to Dr Wallach, a medical researcher the other day on a YOUTUBE video entitled DEAD DOCTORS DON'T LIE. DR Wallach shows many many obituaries of people all over the world who have lived to be 120 to 150 years old, including one woman who had children in their 80's still living at home when she died at the age of 123. Dr Wallach says altzheimer's is a man-created disease and that altzheimer's didn't even exist 100 years ago, and he gives the parameters that cause it. I can't believe GOD would create cancer, especially in children and babies, I'm having trouble with cancer. Deformed children and adults, freak-like critters, and even humans born with two heads, and so in ... I truly didn't intend to answer my own question and genuinely want to know if GOD created ALL diaeases. Maybe I should also have asked if Satan can could have created any diseases too. More about Joel Wallach.
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Post by rational on Jan 8, 2020 20:48:40 GMT -5
On this I’m quite sure. You’d send every child straight to hell if they died but I believe the verse that says to beware for some hath entertained angels unaware. Why do you think cherubs and Cherubims are in the Bible. Why do you think Jesus said for us to be like little children to receive the kingdom of heaven. Why do you think Jesus said when he took a child up into his arms, “Like such are the kingdom of heaven.” I fully expect to see innocent children in heaven with eternal bodies. God will not condemn the innocent. Just because a baby was “conceived in sin” doesn’t mean he’s sin itself. Just because he’s born in sin doesn’t mean he’s sin itself. The point is, ALL THINGS ARE GOD’S until a person makes a conscious decision to surrender or sell their soul unto Satan. That’s when sin kills the soul, making the person “dead in sin and trespasses”. The bible seems to see things differently. Deuteronomy 23:2A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 8, 2020 21:42:01 GMT -5
On this I’m quite sure. You’d send every child straight to hell if they died but I believe the verse that says to beware for some hath entertained angels unaware. Why do you think cherubs and Cherubims are in the Bible. Why do you think Jesus said for us to be like little children to receive the kingdom of heaven. Why do you think Jesus said when he took a child up into his arms, “Like such are the kingdom of heaven.” I fully expect to see innocent children in heaven with eternal bodies. God will not condemn the innocent. Just because a baby was “conceived in sin” doesn’t mean he’s sin itself. Just because he’s born in sin doesn’t mean he’s sin itself. The point is, ALL THINGS ARE GOD’S until a person makes a conscious decision to surrender or sell their soul unto Satan. That’s when sin kills the soul, making the person “dead in sin and trespasses”. The bible seems to see things differently. Deuteronomy 23:2A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. That does not specifically says of any age. Besides it’s talking about the congregation of the children of Israel, not heaven. Gentile’s weren’t allowed to enter into the congregation of the children of Israel but they were allowed to worship as the children of Israel did, if they so chose. Just as when the temple was built, the Gentiles weren’t allowed in the temple but they could gather on Solomon’s porch and that’s where Jesus was said to have done most of his teachings. It would have been a mixed crowd there.
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