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Post by iam on Feb 19, 2020 19:04:31 GMT -5
That's right. The letter of the law. Phariseeism. There's actually a very personal and meaningful reason for my username but I would never share it on these boards. It's kind of like if you throw something that is valuable to you to a bunch of dogs, they all tear into it and make a big mess of it and it loses it's value because of the dogs. But I believe very few here would "get" that. We all lack your understanding?? FEW. I said few. That doesn't include you... obviously 🙄
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Post by iam on Feb 19, 2020 19:05:58 GMT -5
I was wondering where you stand yourself on blasphemy, rational, especially thinking about your own own username...figured it couldn't be in line with faith...but after reading some of your posts, I really believe you need to question yourSELF about blasphemy. I'm not meaning to be disrespectful, just some honest observations. Not holding a belief in a deity or deities makes it difficult to even imagine the possibility. That too is obvious 😁
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Post by iam on Feb 19, 2020 19:07:06 GMT -5
Also .."why would you"? I don't know but, what business is it of anyone's why people do the things they do unless it affects us? Then why mention it? Why not? Yawn.
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Post by rational on Feb 19, 2020 20:40:11 GMT -5
Not holding a belief in a deity or deities makes it difficult to even imagine the possibility. That too is obvious 😁 Is it? I think it is often difficult for theists to understand the full concept of not believing in the paranormal entails.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 19, 2020 20:47:25 GMT -5
Yes but it sounds like if you are one of the parties in the conversation, you can record the conversation. You can't record a conversation you're not a part of. Yes, but the person that recorded the two female workers was part of the conversation so does that make it legal/okay? Not understanding I guess. You can always record conversations you participate in. It's your privacy right. If you're just eavesdropping, you're invading other people's privacy.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 20, 2020 3:27:27 GMT -5
Not having the willing suspension of disbelief I have to go on the written text - you know, the letter of the law and not the law that feels good. That's right. The letter of the law. Phariseeism. There's actually a very personal and meaningful reason for my username but I would never share it on these boards. It's kind of like if you throw something that is valuable to you to a bunch of dogs, they all tear into it and make a big mess of it and it loses it's value because of the dogs. But I believe very few here would "get" that. There is something similar mentioned in the bible. It is a convenient way of avoiding having to face up to the gibberish in the bible that does not make sense. Talking snakes, walking on water etc.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 10:48:33 GMT -5
That's right. The letter of the law. Phariseeism. There's actually a very personal and meaningful reason for my username but I would never share it on these boards. It's kind of like if you throw something that is valuable to you to a bunch of dogs, they all tear into it and make a big mess of it and it loses it's value because of the dogs. But I believe very few here would "get" that. There is something similar mentioned in the bible. It is a convenient way of avoiding having to face up to the gibberish in the bible that does not make sense. Talking snakes, walking on water etc. One man's gibberish is another man's truth.
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Post by rational on Feb 20, 2020 11:41:01 GMT -5
There is something similar mentioned in the bible. It is a convenient way of avoiding having to face up to the gibberish in the bible that does not make sense. Talking snakes, walking on water etc. One man's gibberish is another man's truth. One man's gibberish is another man's religion.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 11:53:01 GMT -5
One man's gibberish is another man's truth. One man's gibberish is another man's religion. That too.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 20, 2020 13:15:49 GMT -5
There is something similar mentioned in the bible. It is a convenient way of avoiding having to face up to the gibberish in the bible that does not make sense. Talking snakes, walking on water etc. One man's gibberish is another man's truth. When a person sets a low standard for truth they will end up with unproven nonsense such as found in the bible. If you are genuine in seeking the truth you would have binned the bible.
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Post by rational on Feb 20, 2020 17:57:32 GMT -5
One man's gibberish is another man's truth. When a person sets a low standard for truth they will end up with unproven nonsense such as found in the bible. If you are genuine in seeking the truth you would have binned the bible. It is not the bible that is the issue. It is those who take the content of an ancient text and believe it is something more than ancient stories.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 18:28:42 GMT -5
One man's gibberish is another man's truth. When a person sets a low standard for truth they will end up with unproven nonsense such as found in the bible. If you are genuine in seeking the truth you would have binned the bible. Jesus is the highest standard for truth and that's rare to find anywhere in religion or anywhere else. That's not a low standard by any means. No I should not have banned the bible in seeking the truth, that's just what YOU believe. But that is definitely not even close to what I believe.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 18:31:19 GMT -5
When a person sets a low standard for truth they will end up with unproven nonsense such as found in the bible. If you are genuine in seeking the truth you would have binned the bible. It is not the bible that is the issue. It is those who take the content of an ancient text and believe it is something more than ancient stories. Well yes that does seem to be an issue with you. It's absolutely not an issue with me and perhaps some others but why is that an issue to you?🥴
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 20, 2020 18:55:07 GMT -5
When a person sets a low standard for truth they will end up with unproven nonsense such as found in the bible. If you are genuine in seeking the truth you would have binned the bible. Jesus is the highest standard for truth and that's rare to find anywhere in religion or anywhere else. That's not a low standard by any means. No I should not have banned the bible in seeking the truth, that's just what YOU believe. But that is definitely not even close to what I believe. Did he even exist or was he a figment of someones imagination? I said binned, not banned. There is quite a difference.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 21:09:52 GMT -5
Jesus is the highest standard for truth and that's rare to find anywhere in religion or anywhere else. That's not a low standard by any means. No I should not have banned the bible in seeking the truth, that's just what YOU believe. But that is definitely not even close to what I believe. Did he even exist or was he a figment of someones imagination? I said binned, not banned. There is quite a difference. What do you mean by binned? Thought it was a typo, sorry. Well He isn't a figment of my imagination but he might be of yours or anyone else. I can't answer for anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 21:11:11 GMT -5
Did he even exist or was he a figment of someones imagination? I said binned, not banned. There is quite a difference. What do you mean by binned? Thought it was a typo, sorry. Well He isn't a figment of my imagination but he might be of yours or anyone else. I can't answer for anyone else. he means thrown into the trash bin....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 20, 2020 21:11:33 GMT -5
Did he even exist or was he a figment of someones imagination? I said binned, not banned. There is quite a difference. What do you mean by binned? Thought it was a typo, sorry. Well He isn't a figment of my imagination but he might be of yours or anyone else. I can't answer for anyone else. I have a round filing cabinet on the floor beside my desk.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 21:23:55 GMT -5
What do you mean by binned? Thought it was a typo, sorry. Well He isn't a figment of my imagination but he might be of yours or anyone else. I can't answer for anyone else. he means thrown into the trash bin.... Sounds like the same result as banned imo.
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Post by iam on Feb 20, 2020 21:28:19 GMT -5
What do you mean by binned? Thought it was a typo, sorry. Well He isn't a figment of my imagination but he might be of yours or anyone else. I can't answer for anyone else. I have a round filing cabinet on the floor beside my desk. Well bin away, then🗑️🙄
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Post by rational on Feb 21, 2020 1:49:26 GMT -5
he means thrown into the trash bin.... Sounds like the same result as banned imo. Banning does not allow people the choice of keeping the bible or tossing it in the bin.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 21, 2020 1:51:48 GMT -5
he means thrown into the trash bin.... Sounds like the same result as banned imo. It certainly is not the same. You are welcome to believe what ever mythology takes your fancy. I would never countenance the banning of any thing unless it is harmful such as illicit drugs or illegal guns etc. Binning stuff because it has no use is an entirely different matter. Rubbish dumps are full of rubbish that no one wants. Some people feed on rubbish and post it here. Such as Nathan's youtube clips on hollow planets and Frank Strange's aliens. If you were a worker speaking in a gospel meeting you would not be subject to questioning. Ex workers that post on here seem to have forgotten that they are ex and they are no longer protected by the sycophantic grovelling of their subjects. So bin what you find is false teachings. You may have to broaden your reading to find the truth.
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Post by rational on Feb 21, 2020 1:52:13 GMT -5
It is not the bible that is the issue. It is those who take the content of an ancient text and believe it is something more than ancient stories. Well yes that does seem to be an issue with you. It's absolutely not an issue with me and perhaps some others but why is that an issue to you?🥴 The issue is not with your belief regarding the bible. It is when some believers want the contents of the bible presented, as part of public education, as fact.
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Post by iam on Feb 21, 2020 8:16:39 GMT -5
Well yes that does seem to be an issue with you. It's absolutely not an issue with me and perhaps some others but why is that an issue to you?🥴 The issue is not with your belief regarding the bible. It is when some believers want the contents of the bible presented, as part of public education, as fact. Sure but maybe "fact" means something different to different people and even so why is that an issue? For some people facts aren't an issue at all unless they're needed for some application like a court of law (woe unto you lawyers). Presenting the bible publically in any way that supports it seems to bring out the most opposition for it. Like no other book...ever.
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Post by iam on Feb 21, 2020 8:28:26 GMT -5
Sounds like the same result as banned imo. It certainly is not the same. You are welcome to believe what ever mythology takes your fancy. I would never countenance the banning of any thing unless it is harmful such as illicit drugs or illegal guns etc. Binning stuff because it has no use is an entirely different matter. Rubbish dumps are full of rubbish that no one wants. Some people feed on rubbish and post it here. Such as Nathan's youtube clips on hollow planets and Frank Strange's aliens. If you were a worker speaking in a gospel meeting you would not be subject to questioning. Ex workers that post on here seem to have forgotten that they are ex and they are no longer protected by the sycophantic grovelling of their subjects. So bin what you find is false teachings. You may have to broaden your reading to find the truth. Curly, I have found the truth. I don't need to broaden my readings, been there done that and from what I see on these forums it hasn't led anyone any closer to the truth that I would want. You would bin illicit drugs and illegal guns?? Why? Why would you have them in the first place? What the heck IS in your bins🤔?
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Post by iam on Feb 21, 2020 8:30:19 GMT -5
Sounds like the same result as banned imo. Banning does not allow people the choice of keeping the bible or tossing it in the bin. Rational... must you always be so...rational!?
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Post by rational on Feb 21, 2020 14:03:46 GMT -5
The issue is not with your belief regarding the bible. It is when some believers want the contents of the bible presented, as part of public education, as fact. Sure but maybe "fact" means something different to different people and even so why is that an issue? Communication is difficult when participants use uncommon definitions of words without informing others. fact - noun - a thing that is known or proved to be true.Generally speaking, facts do not change with the observer. People just believe facts are not important. Whether they know it or not, when they want to stop their automobile the fact that brake fluid is not compressible is important as is its high boiling point and the fact it does not readily mix with water. Could it be because it is often used to controll others and to judge them?
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Post by iam on Feb 21, 2020 14:14:18 GMT -5
Sure but maybe "fact" means something different to different people and even so why is that an issue? Communication is difficult when participants use uncommon definitions of words without informing others. fact - noun - a thing that is known or proved to be true.Generally speaking, facts do not change with the observer. People just believe facts are not important. Whether they know it or not, when they want to stop their automobile the fact that brake fluid is not compressible is important as is its high boiling point and the fact it does not readily mix with water. Could it be because it is often used to controll others and to judge them? I know, Rtnl, but unless I need to know facts I don't pay a lot of attention to them...seems like a lot of needless energy I could spend doing something else... "Could it be because it is often used to controll others and to judge them?" Yes, absolutely!😒
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Post by snow on Feb 21, 2020 19:49:06 GMT -5
When a person sets a low standard for truth they will end up with unproven nonsense such as found in the bible. If you are genuine in seeking the truth you would have binned the bible. It is not the bible that is the issue. It is those who take the content of an ancient text and believe it is something more than ancient stories. And another part of the problem is the lack of understanding about the times they were written in and what was commonly believed by everyone. They take so much out of context by not understanding what the writer is saying in the first place because they have no idea what the common beliefs were at the time.
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