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Post by Get off of TMB on Oct 9, 2019 16:00:03 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 18:01:46 GMT -5
sports was okay at least as far back as 83 in my neck o the woods(PNW)...
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 9, 2019 18:30:25 GMT -5
These attitudes definitely existed here in the 70's and 80's. It was kids like me who ignored the prejudices of the "right wingers" and played sports right through into adult years that eventually turned the tide. What was once banned then became mainstream. Now, as Gill said, it is more common than not.
Why did we ignore the church police? Quite simply, they could not intelligently answer our questions. Glib statements like, "pray about it", "Uncle so and so wouldn't be happy", "do you want to jeopardise your family's place in the kingdom?" only hardened our resolve to play sport.
Like anything, it takes the iconoclastics to foment progress.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 9, 2019 19:58:49 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair A few years ago I watched a professing man win an Olympic silver medal for boxing. A friend of my cousin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 1:51:51 GMT -5
I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair They could resent it but, if so, that's ultimately their loss. All should rejoice that the younger people nowadays are free of the 'nonsenses' that were foist upon us when we were young.
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 10, 2019 6:35:28 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair I went to school into the 2000s. Sports were still strictly forbidden. The Truth is unchanging.
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 10, 2019 6:36:53 GMT -5
These attitudes definitely existed here in the 70's and 80's. It was kids like me who ignored the prejudices of the "right wingers" and played sports right through into adult years that eventually turned the tide. What was once banned then became mainstream. Now, as Gill said, it is more common than not. Why did we ignore the church police? Quite simply, they could not intelligently answer our questions. Glib statements like, "pray about it", "Uncle so and so wouldn't be happy", "do you want to jeopardise your family's place in the kingdom?" only hardened our resolve to play sport. Like anything, it takes the iconoclastics to foment progress. So much for denying yourself and taking up your cross
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 11:02:36 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair I went to school into the 2000s. Sports were still strictly forbidden. The Truth is unchanging. what region are you from?
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2019 12:46:07 GMT -5
These attitudes definitely existed here in the 70's and 80's. It was kids like me who ignored the prejudices of the "right wingers" and played sports right through into adult years that eventually turned the tide. What was once banned then became mainstream. Now, as Gill said, it is more common than not. Why did we ignore the church police? Quite simply, they could not intelligently answer our questions. Glib statements like, "pray about it", "Uncle so and so wouldn't be happy", "do you want to jeopardise your family's place in the kingdom?" only hardened our resolve to play sport. Like anything, it takes the iconoclastics to foment progress. So much for denying yourself and taking up your cross I depends what you're denying yourself, and for what reason. There's no reward for denying oneself of legitimately beneficial activities. Some people deny themselves of things simply for the show of it.
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Post by snow on Oct 10, 2019 13:26:39 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair Oh Gill, how I wish sports were allowed when I was growing up. I loved them when I got to play them in gym class and I was good at them. But I wasn't allowed to join any after school teams while I lived at home. When I left home I made up for it, joining every sport and team I could. Played hockey, lacrosse and baseball as much as I could. I am so glad that kids are now allowed to play sports in the 2x2's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 14:21:15 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair Oh Gill, how I wish sports were allowed when I was growing up. I loved them when I got to play them in gym class and I was good at them. But I wasn't allowed to join any after school teams while I lived at home. When I left home I made up for it, joining every sport and team I could. Played hockey, lacrosse and baseball as much as I could. I am so glad that kids are now allowed to play sports in the 2x2's. i can't imagine you cross checking anyone snow!
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Post by Pragmatic on Oct 10, 2019 16:54:46 GMT -5
These attitudes definitely existed here in the 70's and 80's. It was kids like me who ignored the prejudices of the "right wingers" and played sports right through into adult years that eventually turned the tide. What was once banned then became mainstream. Now, as Gill said, it is more common than not. Why did we ignore the church police? Quite simply, they could not intelligently answer our questions. Glib statements like, "pray about it", "Uncle so and so wouldn't be happy", "do you want to jeopardise your family's place in the kingdom?" only hardened our resolve to play sport. Like anything, it takes the iconoclastics to foment progress. So much for denying yourself and taking up your cross It's got nothing to do with it. Otherwise asceticism would be salvation.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 10, 2019 17:35:06 GMT -5
These attitudes definitely existed here in the 70's and 80's. It was kids like me who ignored the prejudices of the "right wingers" and played sports right through into adult years that eventually turned the tide. What was once banned then became mainstream. Now, as Gill said, it is more common than not. Why did we ignore the church police? Quite simply, they could not intelligently answer our questions. Glib statements like, "pray about it", "Uncle so and so wouldn't be happy", "do you want to jeopardise your family's place in the kingdom?" only hardened our resolve to play sport. Like anything, it takes the iconoclastics to foment progress. Thanks for your bravery. No way would we have been able to do that in the late 40's when I was in high school. I was pushing the envelope by even attending High School! Most professing girls my age didn't.
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Post by janj on Oct 10, 2019 20:18:44 GMT -5
In the 1980s, sports were considered worldly in my part of the world. Children weren't permitted to be in the band...or least there would have been some rebuke from the people in the little meeting. My parents didn't want to make waves about anything. Today I see facebook photos of professing young people playing sports in high school. Eldon Tenniswood is quoted as saying that he hadn't seen anyone very spiritual who were into sports..maybe someone can find the exact quote. In my area, wrestling, boxing, basketball, tennis, track, etc. were meant for the people of "the world". I was in my 20s before I ever attended a ballgame. By the 1990s, things began to change. Workers began talking about college sports..some would look for the sports page. With the internet and especially social media, what was acceptable in one area became somewhat acceptable in another area. I know some middle aged people could resent how younger people are doing things that they were DYING to at their age. Life isn't fair I went to school into the 2000s. Sports were still strictly forbidden. The Truth is unchanging. Well I went to school in the 70s and played team sport at school and on a Saturday and was allowed to participate in musicals, bands et. I think it is more to do with your parents nd their attitude than the workers. I don't remember what the workers thought featuring and any of my parents decisions.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 10, 2019 21:51:52 GMT -5
So much for denying yourself and taking up your cross It's got nothing to do with it. Otherwise asceticism would be salvation. My understanding of worthy denial of oneself involves abstaining from anything that is harmful to yourself, or otherwise immoral. That's a big enough burden for a human to worry about.
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 10, 2019 22:38:29 GMT -5
I went to school into the 2000s. Sports were still strictly forbidden. The Truth is unchanging. Well I went to school in the 70s and played team sport at school and on a Saturday and was allowed to participate in musicals, bands et. I think it is more to do with your parents nd their attitude than the workers. I don't remember what the workers thought featuring and any of my parents decisions. Here's what actual workers have preached....pretty consistent through the ages and across the world. Obedience is another matter. Lots of goats among the sheep, tares among the wheat. "The religion of New Zealand is rugby. Sport and it’s the religion of Australia, too. From our home, we could hear the crowd cheering. I wasn’t allowed to go. The newspaper came out Saturday night with results of the game. I used to go to a friend’s home to hear all about it. I was very close to the edge of the pit. One day, I went and knocked on my friend’s door but they had moved away and said nothing to me. I knew full well that God was in it. God saw the danger and removed them." - Graham Snow's Testimony "When we went to secondary school we wanted to join in with the sports and play rugby, but one day we had to play another school in another area and had to travel to this other town. I went to my father and he said, "You'll not be going." That was pretty tough because other children of the friends were going. I wouldn't say that this would do a lot of harm, but it would go on and on and on. As the team got better and better, they formed a club and this led to a lot of social life. Our father knew the danger, and he nipped it in the bud. Today we are glad for it." - Jacob Kevligham, Williams Convention 2001. "When a person makes a choice to serve God, you break all your relationships with the world: the sporting world, the religious world, and you wholly follow the lowly Nazarene" - Eldon Tenniswood, Glencoe Convention 1986 "Don't let Sunday become a fun-day. If we start compromising here and there, everyone will use it as an excuse to compromise elsewhere. Commercial sports--people got drunk with it. It brings death." - Dan Hilton, Pillars Sermon at Milltown Convention "When I was young, I loved sports, and after I decided, the Holy Spirit moved me to give them up completely. Any money I had spent going to the games, I wanted to use for the extension of God's Kingdom. The Holy Spirit taught me this, as it would have been selfish for me to spend money for my own entertainment when I could help in the work of the Lord. When you introduce children into sports, it is just an avenue that starts them out into the world." - Eldon Tenniswood, Meeting for Elders in California "And one way that we can prove to God that we loved Him is to clean house in our hearts, making an effort in this world full of iniquity that our eyes are not fed on those things. I don't understand how anyone serving God can make an idol out of a sports star, or a movie star. I cannot understand it when Christ is all in all. I don't know how you could put their image on your wall." - Dan Henry, Boring Convention 2003. "I have yet to see anybody really spiritual involved in sports." - Eldon Tenniswood, Young People's Meeting. 'Some things really aren't sin, but they are weights, and they weigh us down. They retard our progress. Often the question is asked, "Well, what's wrong with it?" What's wrong with this and what's wrong with that? And the answer would have to be: there's nothing wrong with it, unless you want to finish in the race. If you want to finish in the race then you need to lay it aside. It's a weight. We could get involved in so much in this world and some of it wouldn't be wrong in some respects, but it will weigh us down. You could get all taken up with sports. Just a weight that could keep you from finishing in the race.' - Charles Wells, Saginaw Convention 1996. 'One time there was a friend who we were staying with, who is a painting contractor, and the trustees of the Baptist Church came to him to get a quote to paint the building. First he had some misgivings, but then he said, "I could paint a barn and what's the difference?" So he was getting some figures together, and we walked in. He asked us what we would do, so I said, "Suppose you do paint the vestry and you have the scaffolding all around and the Lord comes back and finds you painting the Baptist Church." He said "Say no more, I'm not putting a quote in." You don't want to be at the bowling alley, or at the football match, the Lord should not find you there, but we should be waiting for Him, for His coming back again.' - Andrew Abernathy, Canea Western Australia Convention, 1973. 'The Lord's people throughout the world give Him the first day. A good beginning will help us to live the other days of the week in a manner that will be well-pleasing unto Him. What would you think of a child of God who, on the first day of the week, went fishing or hunting, or to a baseball game, or engaged in other games? Such behavior “becometh not the Gospel of Christ.” ' - Jack Carroll, Hayden Lake Convention 1949. "You know sometimes people see the Truth, they get a glimpse of the Truth and then they say, what will my wife or what will my husband say? If I serve God like this, what will my parents say? And what about my future sporting career and this and that and the next thing? And, some people, they allow things to rob them of this treasure." - Anthony Hodgkinson, Harrare, Zimbabwe Convention, 2003. "There are seven small countries in Central America and they all love their Sundays for market days and sports days. There are crowds going to the markets and to the football fields, spoiling their day and life. There was the man who bought oxen that Jesus spoke about, and those oxen spoiled his opportunity. Another had a farm and another a wife. Things can come in to spoil what we have. God wants to arm us against the spoilers." - Willie Pollock, Glencoe Convention 1989 "The friendship of the world is at enmity with God. The world (money, sport, status, and glamour) wants to get hold of us and if we let the leaven of worldliness get in us, it will transform us to the world." - Harold Bennett, Cape Town Convention 2006. "We must not associate the Lord's day with sport or running around seeking our own pleasure. This is sound advice. We have been very grieved to see and to know some of God's people after having had fellowship on Sunday morning, with us, when we knelt together, sang, gave testimony, bowed their heads and gave thanks for and partook of something as sacred as the emblems that represent the broken body of Jesus and the wine that symbolizes His life's blood poured out, and then, after that go home and just forget that the rest of the day belongs to God, too. Away to some place of pleasure, to some worldly throng. A good many years ago, something happened that saddened us greatly, a young man, somewhere in his twenties, had professed; was a very nice man in many ways, but had one weakness - he was easily led by others. He got the thought into his mind (and it was not God that put it there) that if he went with the boys, he would get them to the meeting, and eventually, get them saved. I do not mean that we should not take an interest in others, we should be concerned about the salvation of others, but do you know what happened one Sunday afternoon? He went away to a lake with a number of his young unsaved friends - they went swimming together, and while taking a high dive, he struck his head on the bottom so hard that it split two of his vertebrae. They carried him out and took him home. After seven months of suffering, he passed away. There was a terrible feeling came over the Lord’s people when we learned that it happened on a Sunday afternoon." - Stanley Watchhorn, Bakersfield Convention 1952.
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Post by nathan on Oct 10, 2019 23:07:05 GMT -5
When I was in the work in 1980s many of the workers in Westcoast of USA had played sports in high school. My older companion and I attended the professing young people the high school kids basketball, football, Volleyballs games. We played basketball, volley balls at preps among the workers and many of the young people in the area came out and played with us.
Most of the younger generation of workers played sports and other things so they are NOT so harsh/judgmental on playing sports like the older generation of workers in the past.
Professing people just have to their priorities in the right oder, God comes first or before anyone or things. Moderation.
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Post by janj on Oct 11, 2019 1:47:25 GMT -5
Well I went to school in the 70s and played team sport at school and on a Saturday and was allowed to participate in musicals, bands et. I think it is more to do with your parents nd their attitude than the workers. I don't remember what the workers thought featuring and any of my parents decisions. Here's what actual workers have preached....pretty consistent through the ages and across the world. Obedience is another matter. Lots of goats among the sheep, tares among the wheat. "The religion of New Zealand is rugby. Sport and it’s the religion of Australia, too. From our home, we could hear the crowd cheering. I wasn’t allowed to go. The newspaper came out Saturday night with results of the game. I used to go to a friend’s home to hear all about it. I was very close to the edge of the pit. One day, I went and knocked on my friend’s door but they had moved away and said nothing to me. I knew full well that God was in it. God saw the danger and removed them." - Graham Snow's Testimony "When we went to secondary school we wanted to join in with the sports and play rugby, but one day we had to play another school in another area and had to travel to this other town. I went to my father and he said, "You'll not be going." That was pretty tough because other children of the friends were going. I wouldn't say that this would do a lot of harm, but it would go on and on and on. As the team got better and better, they formed a club and this led to a lot of social life. Our father knew the danger, and he nipped it in the bud. Today we are glad for it." - Jacob Kevligham, Williams Convention 2001. "When a person makes a choice to serve God, you break all your relationships with the world: the sporting world, the religious world, and you wholly follow the lowly Nazarene" - Eldon Tenniswood, Glencoe Convention 1986 "Don't let Sunday become a fun-day. If we start compromising here and there, everyone will use it as an excuse to compromise elsewhere. Commercial sports--people got drunk with it. It brings death." - Dan Hilton, Pillars Sermon at Milltown Convention "When I was young, I loved sports, and after I decided, the Holy Spirit moved me to give them up completely. Any money I had spent going to the games, I wanted to use for the extension of God's Kingdom. The Holy Spirit taught me this, as it would have been selfish for me to spend money for my own entertainment when I could help in the work of the Lord. When you introduce children into sports, it is just an avenue that starts them out into the world." - Eldon Tenniswood, Meeting for Elders in California "And one way that we can prove to God that we loved Him is to clean house in our hearts, making an effort in this world full of iniquity that our eyes are not fed on those things. I don't understand how anyone serving God can make an idol out of a sports star, or a movie star. I cannot understand it when Christ is all in all. I don't know how you could put their image on your wall." - Dan Henry, Boring Convention 2003. "I have yet to see anybody really spiritual involved in sports." - Eldon Tenniswood, Young People's Meeting. 'Some things really aren't sin, but they are weights, and they weigh us down. They retard our progress. Often the question is asked, "Well, what's wrong with it?" What's wrong with this and what's wrong with that? And the answer would have to be: there's nothing wrong with it, unless you want to finish in the race. If you want to finish in the race then you need to lay it aside. It's a weight. We could get involved in so much in this world and some of it wouldn't be wrong in some respects, but it will weigh us down. You could get all taken up with sports. Just a weight that could keep you from finishing in the race.' - Charles Wells, Saginaw Convention 1996. 'One time there was a friend who we were staying with, who is a painting contractor, and the trustees of the Baptist Church came to him to get a quote to paint the building. First he had some misgivings, but then he said, "I could paint a barn and what's the difference?" So he was getting some figures together, and we walked in. He asked us what we would do, so I said, "Suppose you do paint the vestry and you have the scaffolding all around and the Lord comes back and finds you painting the Baptist Church." He said "Say no more, I'm not putting a quote in." You don't want to be at the bowling alley, or at the football match, the Lord should not find you there, but we should be waiting for Him, for His coming back again.' - Andrew Abernathy, Canea Western Australia Convention, 1973. 'The Lord's people throughout the world give Him the first day. A good beginning will help us to live the other days of the week in a manner that will be well-pleasing unto Him. What would you think of a child of God who, on the first day of the week, went fishing or hunting, or to a baseball game, or engaged in other games? Such behavior “becometh not the Gospel of Christ.” ' - Jack Carroll, Hayden Lake Convention 1949. "You know sometimes people see the Truth, they get a glimpse of the Truth and then they say, what will my wife or what will my husband say? If I serve God like this, what will my parents say? And what about my future sporting career and this and that and the next thing? And, some people, they allow things to rob them of this treasure." - Anthony Hodgkinson, Harrare, Zimbabwe Convention, 2003. "There are seven small countries in Central America and they all love their Sundays for market days and sports days. There are crowds going to the markets and to the football fields, spoiling their day and life. There was the man who bought oxen that Jesus spoke about, and those oxen spoiled his opportunity. Another had a farm and another a wife. Things can come in to spoil what we have. God wants to arm us against the spoilers." - Willie Pollock, Glencoe Convention 1989 "The friendship of the world is at enmity with God. The world (money, sport, status, and glamour) wants to get hold of us and if we let the leaven of worldliness get in us, it will transform us to the world." - Harold Bennett, Cape Town Convention 2006. "We must not associate the Lord's day with sport or running around seeking our own pleasure. This is sound advice. We have been very grieved to see and to know some of God's people after having had fellowship on Sunday morning, with us, when we knelt together, sang, gave testimony, bowed their heads and gave thanks for and partook of something as sacred as the emblems that represent the broken body of Jesus and the wine that symbolizes His life's blood poured out, and then, after that go home and just forget that the rest of the day belongs to God, too. Away to some place of pleasure, to some worldly throng. A good many years ago, something happened that saddened us greatly, a young man, somewhere in his twenties, had professed; was a very nice man in many ways, but had one weakness - he was easily led by others. He got the thought into his mind (and it was not God that put it there) that if he went with the boys, he would get them to the meeting, and eventually, get them saved. I do not mean that we should not take an interest in others, we should be concerned about the salvation of others, but do you know what happened one Sunday afternoon? He went away to a lake with a number of his young unsaved friends - they went swimming together, and while taking a high dive, he struck his head on the bottom so hard that it split two of his vertebrae. They carried him out and took him home. After seven months of suffering, he passed away. There was a terrible feeling came over the Lord’s people when we learned that it happened on a Sunday afternoon." - Stanley Watchhorn, Bakersfield Convention 1952. What the workers may have preached is one thing. What parents allow their children to do is another. As long as it did not involve Sunday or Wednesday night and was a healthy above board activity it was OK in my family.
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Post by Grant on Oct 11, 2019 2:00:21 GMT -5
Sport was preached against in conventions. Sport outside of school hours, that was. I remember the verses that we are in another race being mentioned many times over the years in these sermons.
Just because they didn't like sport doesn't mean they had the right to push that onto other people.
Yes, some rebelled and played sport on a Saturday but they kept it a secret. Was it God fearing or man fearing. One of the many man made rules. Now it doesn't seem to be much of an issue among professing people these days.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 11, 2019 5:22:33 GMT -5
Sport was preached against in conventions. Sport outside of school hours, that was. I remember the verses that we are in another race being mentioned many times over the years in these sermons. Just because they didn't like sport doesn't mean they had the right to push that into other people. Yes, some rebelled and played sport on a Saturday but they kept it a secret. Was it God fearing or man fearing. One of the many man made rules. Now it doesn't seem to be much of an issue among professing people these days. When I went to college I boarded with my aunt and uncle who had meeting in their home. One Saturday I went with a couple of others to a skating rink for some recreation. I was roundly criticized when I came back home. I did NOT enjoy living there. Growing up we had a salt water beach in our back yard, and I and my 4 brothers would go swimming there on Sunday afternoons. One Sunday some company dropped in about 2:30 for a visit, and you should have seen the look on their faces when we came back to the house in our speedos.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 11, 2019 5:26:07 GMT -5
What the workers may have preached is one thing. What parents allow their children to do is another. As long as it did not involve Sunday or Wednesday night and was a healthy above board activity it was OK in my family. My cousin lives in a very small country community, and the high school depends on the friends to supply enough players for a hockey team. So the team stopped scheduling practices on Wednesday night so the professing guys wouldn't miss meeting.
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Post by snow on Oct 11, 2019 12:33:26 GMT -5
Oh Gill, how I wish sports were allowed when I was growing up. I loved them when I got to play them in gym class and I was good at them. But I wasn't allowed to join any after school teams while I lived at home. When I left home I made up for it, joining every sport and team I could. Played hockey, lacrosse and baseball as much as I could. I am so glad that kids are now allowed to play sports in the 2x2's. i can't imagine you cross checking anyone snow! haha yes I did some of that of course, but I never had to play defense because I was too small. I was fast so I was able to run around them and under arms to get through to score. I had to be quick because if I actually got cross checked I would fly lol. I had lots of fun though. Lacrosse was the hardest because there isn't as much protection for it. Especially the legs. I used to sport bruises a lot.
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Post by doginfog on Oct 11, 2019 13:14:52 GMT -5
sports was okay at least as far back as 83 in my neck o the woods(PNW)... I'm from the same neck of the woods and the same era. I did have a worker try to talk me into quitting track. I politely ignored her. There were several very good athletes in the area who got press and went on to college careers and I don't remember it being a large public issue. There was a controversy after Ruth Rowland mentioned in a teenagers meeting that "she had gone to games as a kid" She was forced to hold another meeting and partially retract but I don't recall an all out prohibition. I don't know of any girls of the era that did sports however. If they were doing them they were much quieter. I also have a friend who was not allowed to play sports which is too bad because not only was he really athletic I think it would have been good for him.
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Post by snow on Oct 11, 2019 13:48:29 GMT -5
sports was okay at least as far back as 83 in my neck o the woods(PNW)... I'm from the same neck of the woods and the same era. I did have a worker try to talk me into quitting track. I politely ignored her. There were several very good athletes in the area who got press and went on to college careers and I don't remember it being a large public issue. There was a controversy after Ruth Rowland mentioned in a teenagers meeting that "she had gone to games as a kid" She was forced to hold another meeting and partially retract but I don't recall an all out prohibition. I don't know of any girls of the era that did sports however. If they were doing them they were much quieter. I also have a friend who was not allowed to play sports which is too bad because not only was he really athletic I think it would have been good for him. It was hard to do sports wearing a dress like some of us had to do all the time. As I got older and when I quit professing I did start to wear pants, but in school I was not allowed to join any teams. Gym class was alright. That's why when I left home I got involved in as many sports as I could. I knew how to play most of the ones I played because we had them in gym class and that was allowed for me. I was so glad to have my grade 12 year gym class that was called, lifetime sports. We got to downhill ski, cross country ski, play golf, tennis and curling that year. Skiing was one thing I was allowed to do outside of school. Maybe because it wasn't a team sport? It seemed anything that required me to be on a team after school hours was not allowed. Oh and I was also allowed to skate because the friends in our area skated and we would go out skating and tobogganing sometimes as a group of the friends.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Oct 11, 2019 15:52:51 GMT -5
I imagine that the boys could participate in sports before the girls could in some areas. I heard Arnold Brown pray for deliverance from sports and politics at convention. AB was a real hardliner even for his day.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 11, 2019 16:00:59 GMT -5
I imagine that the boys could participate in sports before the girls could in some areas. I heard Arnold Brown pray for deliverance from sports and politics at convention. AB was a real hardliner even for his day. AB is the last worker who should have been scoffing at politics.
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Post by Gene on Oct 11, 2019 19:52:43 GMT -5
I have a distinct memory of AB in the home at Texarkana convention reading the newspaper (this would have been in the early 1980s) and pronouncing AIDS as the judgement of God against the "sodomites." He was hardly alone in that, of course.
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 11, 2019 23:09:46 GMT -5
I have a distinct memory of AB in the home at Texarkana convention reading the newspaper (this would have been in the early 1980s) and pronouncing AIDS as the judgement of God against the "sodomites." He was hardly alone in that, of course. Surveys show that the majority of the Christian ex-2x2s (Evangelicals) would agree with him. His viewpoint is probably actually more uncommon among professing people
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