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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 10, 2020 13:44:52 GMT -5
Scientists/philosophers have a poor track record of racism and sexism. One of Decartes works was presented as "simple enough for a woman to understand it". You mean "men."
Because nearly all "Scientists/philosophers" in the past were men.
In fact I can think of only one widely known scientist in the past, -Madame Currie, who even then was a part of a husband/wife team.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 14:43:16 GMT -5
“Fossil fakes? No way. Only dumb evil religious people can fall for fakes. And create them.” professing.proboards.com/post/891187/threadI was thinking along the same lines Lee. And with the age-old story regarding 2x2ism being founded by the Lord on the shores of Galilee that so many people fell for during the years between 1900 and 1982, it would seem reasonable to think that even former 2x2s who have swallowed the tale of “Neanderthal man,” might be the last people on earth to realize they have been lied to by their science 'authorities,' including school teachers, text books, television programs, magazines, newspapers etc. etc. etc. And I'm not surprised that it seems that this second posting (by gratu) on page 94 or 95 now suggests that the former 2x2 atheist/evolutionists on this board rather ignored that information on both page 94-95 and 96. That impression fits right in with the fact that evolution is a religion and the religious dogma of the religion of atheism. But there is still hope – i.e., I doubt that many of the former 2x2 atheist/evolutionists of TMB immediately left meetings upon hearing that they had been lied to by the 2x2 'authorities' all their lives as 2x2s. But I'm relatively sure that 2x2/visitors will understand such a comparison if none on here do. Edit - Ho hum looks like group-think ignorance of it, so, repeat: This is a bit confusing to me at this stage of the thread - "I haven't heard this. Who alive today doesn't have neanderthal DNA?" but it is Lee copied out of professing.proboards.com/post/890804/threadOn page 94 0r 95 T posted the hoaxy hoax hoax info of neanderthal, so just in case everyone missed it, here 'tis again: Neanderthal man, another deliberate fraud by evolutionist scientists.evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/evolution-frauds/excerpt quote Neandethal man, just a modern human with disease.unquote (info from 2005) and if that info is true, no one has neanderthal DNA.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 22:36:56 GMT -5
My goodness, it has references which include peer reviewed published papers. Who peer reviewed the bible? God! Checkmate atheists! 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 22:37:47 GMT -5
Scientists/philosophers have a poor track record of racism and sexism. One of Decartes works was presented as "simple enough for a woman to understand it". You mean "men."
Because nearly all "Scientists/philosophers" in the past were men.
In fact I can think of only one widely known scientist in the past, -Madame Currie, who even then was a part of a husband/wife team.Rosalind Franklin is dear to my heart!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 0:50:33 GMT -5
Evolution is not science (HOME) evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/excerpt quote Is evolution a science? I doubt it. Hi my name is Matt and ive looked for proof of evolution for most of my 40 years. Ive discussed evolution with many hundreds of atheists over the years, i’ve read much evolutionary data, ive scoured the internet as well many times. Ive even bought Richard Dawkins books looking for some proof but there is only his “idea’s” in those. Still to this day i cannot find any real “proof of evolution”, a funny thing really when i constantly hear evolutionists claim that there is “overwhelming evidence” for evolution. So look around this site and lets see if evolution is really a fact or not. unquote Scientific Fraud (EP-2) - Neanderthal Man www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCT2hiZSgokThe Guardian www.theguardian.com/science/2005/feb/19/science.sciencenewsHistory of modern man unravels as German scholar is exposed as fraud Skeptic's Dictionary Reiner Rudolph Robert Protsch (von Zieten) www.skepdic.com/protsch.htmlScientific Frauds (FULL LENGTH) www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFWyaCCQFC0
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Post by rational on Mar 11, 2020 7:18:39 GMT -5
Scientists/philosophers have a poor track record of racism and sexism. One of Decartes works was presented as "simple enough for a woman to understand it". You mean "men."
Because nearly all "Scientists/philosophers" in the past were men.
In fact I can think of only one widely known scientist in the past, -Madame Currie, who even then was a part of a husband/wife team.You need to look a little deeper!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 7:22:00 GMT -5
Evolution is not science (HOME) evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/excerpt quote Is evolution a science? I doubt it. Hi my name is Matt and ive looked for proof of evolution for most of my 40 years. Ive discussed evolution with many hundreds of atheists over the years, i’ve read much evolutionary data, ive scoured the internet as well many times. Ive even bought Richard Dawkins books looking for some proof but there is only his “idea’s” in those. Still to this day i cannot find any real “proof of evolution”, a funny thing really when i constantly hear evolutionists claim that there is “overwhelming evidence” for evolution. So look around this site and lets see if evolution is really a fact or not. unquote Scientific Fraud (EP-2) - Neanderthal Man www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCT2hiZSgokThe Guardian www.theguardian.com/science/2005/feb/19/science.sciencenewsHistory of modern man unravels as German scholar is exposed as fraud Skeptic's Dictionary Reiner Rudolph Robert Protsch (von Zieten) www.skepdic.com/protsch.htmlScientific Frauds (FULL LENGTH) www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFWyaCCQFC0"Matt" cannot seem to understand the difference between "proof" and "evidence". I'm not sure the point of publishing scientific fraud, except to illustrate why science is so amazing. Scientists debunked bad science. It took secular news to debunk bad faith healing.
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 9:34:46 GMT -5
The problem with secularism is it forgot to give thanks to the one who made it. Now it's become fashionable to think it WASNT made by anyone. You can look at this as the problem with a sectarian church. As you lose sight of an external reference, you begin to worship yourselves.
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 9:39:37 GMT -5
You mean "men."
Because nearly all "Scientists/philosophers" in the past were men.
In fact I can think of only one widely known scientist in the past, -Madame Currie, who even then was a part of a husband/wife team. Rosalind Franklin is dear to my heart! Henrietta Swan Leavitt - Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Swan_Leavitt
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 9:43:15 GMT -5
“Fossil fakes? No way. Only dumb evil religious people can fall for fakes. And create them.” professing.proboards.com/post/891187/threadI was thinking along the same lines Lee. And with the age-old story regarding 2x2ism being founded by the Lord on the shores of Galilee that so many people fell for during the years between 1900 and 1982, it would seem reasonable to think that even former 2x2s who have swallowed the tale of “Neanderthal man,” might be the last people on earth to realize they have been lied to by their science 'authorities,' including school teachers, text books, television programs, magazines, newspapers etc. etc. etc. And I'm not surprised that it seems that this second posting (by gratu) on page 94 or 95 now suggests that the former 2x2 atheist/evolutionists on this board rather ignored that information on both page 94-95 and 96. That impression fits right in with the fact that evolution is a religion and the religious dogma of the religion of atheism. But there is still hope – i.e., I doubt that many of the former 2x2 atheist/evolutionists of TMB immediately left meetings upon hearing that they had been lied to by the 2x2 'authorities' all their lives as 2x2s. But I'm relatively sure that 2x2/visitors will understand such a comparison if none on here do. Edit - Ho hum looks like group-think ignorance of it, so, repeat: This is a bit confusing to me at this stage of the thread - "I haven't heard this. Who alive today doesn't have neanderthal DNA?" but it is Lee copied out of professing.proboards.com/post/890804/threadOn page 94 0r 95 T posted the hoaxy hoax hoax info of neanderthal, so just in case everyone missed it, here 'tis again: Neanderthal man, another deliberate fraud by evolutionist scientists.evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/evolution-frauds/excerpt quote Neandethal man, just a modern human with disease.unquote (info from 2005) and if that info is true, no one has neanderthal DNA. It's a lie to say evolution created us, even if we were created by a process. It's more true to say God created us, because it identities and give credit to the essential cause. As far as the postmodern demo crew here goes, it's emerging from a vastly larger recruiting base than dumb ex 2x2s.
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 9:47:27 GMT -5
Scientists/philosophers have a poor track record of racism and sexism. One of Decartes works was presented as "simple enough for a woman to understand it". You mean "men."
Because nearly all "Scientists/philosophers" in the past were men.
In fact I can think of only one widely known scientist in the past, -Madame Currie, who even then was a part of a husband/wife team.You will probably blame this on Christianity. I will blame in on humankind's fallen condition from his and her ideal.
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 9:51:33 GMT -5
My concept of psychology is that our behavior and thoughts will follow the architecture of our beliefs. One thing that can be said about the working or common assumption of evolution is it's foundation isn't God, but a process of Creation. It short, creation created creation. The absence and rejection of an assumption to Transcendence is a liability to every theory of mind and being. Evolution is the process. It doesn't say how it all started. That's Abiogenesis. There is no reason to not believe in evolution and still believe in God. The Pope is an example of being able to do that. The only time evolution is negated as being true is by those who believe the earth is only 6000 or 13,000 (depends on the creationists belief) years old. So everything needs to be created all at once in their opinion, but evolution takes billions of years. I don't what you mean by your last sentence. Let's worship the pope! My last sentence.... It's my belief we are frail creatures spiritually and psychologically and what light we do have on Earth came from heaven.
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 10:37:31 GMT -5
But you are. I don't know about your children. Lee, -You can play fast & loose with the dictionary if it make you feel better but that won't make your definitions correct.
Definition of anti
: opposed to : against
Now, -that is the definition in the Merriam Webster dictionary so I will take their word for the meaning of the word over yours. Sorry. But then, we wouldn't want poor Mr. Webster rolling over in his grave, would we?
One cannot be "anti" something or someone that don't believe exists to start with. I am not "anti-god" or "opposed to or against" god.
You are anti god. You and others here believe the belief in God retards progress, it retards a salvation that would arise from the collaboration of power (secular government) and tapping the mysteries of the universe, worshiping it as it were, ostensibly, so we might know more how to live and behave.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 12:32:30 GMT -5
ipidixit - “It took secular news to debunk bad faith healing.” Oh, and when did secular media get started, after Dr. Walter Martin? I'm not sure of the presentation dates, but long before I heard a thing about faith healing from any secular source, I heard in theological detail about it through Dr. Walter Martin. And LONG before Dr. Walter Martin I read about it in my Bible while I was yet a 2x2. And both sources alerted me to the secular religion of evolution – and its frauds. All I ever heard secular news (and my science teachers) do was bash all believers, push evolution, fail to mention the evolution frauds – and some of those frauds are still in the 'science' text books in the public schools at that. Ho hum – but you are welcome to your comfort bubble, which seems just like the similar comfort bubble used by many 2x2s upon learning that they had been lied to by the 2x2 authorities for nearly 100 years – 'oh no, that 'parker' is lying - the workers don't lie' they don't - they don't - they don - oh, no, they do ----..... It seems to me that former 2x2 atheist/evolutionists on here have just switched 'lying authorities' (bosses). Just two old exposures of frauds by Dr. Walter Martin – for 2x2/visitors Healing Does God Always Heal? - Dr. Walter Martin www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly0pVoOwC_kErrors of Positive Confession - Dr. Walter Martin www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWSOHo6D6U
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 11, 2020 12:40:44 GMT -5
You mean "men."
Because nearly all "Scientists/philosophers" in the past were men.
In fact I can think of only one widely known scientist in the past, -Madame Currie, who even then was a part of a husband/wife team. You will probably blame this on Christianity. I will blame in on humankind's fallen condition from his and her ideal. Where ever it came from originally, -Christianity promoted it and used it to the hilt to keep women & girls down and subject to men and the pursuits of men.
From vocations, jobs, sports, etc.
And if you don't recognize that then you are either in denial of facts or do not know Christian history.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 13:02:15 GMT -5
Ipidixit - “"Matt" cannot seem to understand the difference between "proof" and "evidence". It seems that “Matt” understood that difference quite well – in the video he noted that Evolutionists are 'quick to' brag that 'science is self-correcting' – sometimes DECADES after the frauds were discovered, and then only when new textbooks incorporate (in silence on former frauds) changed new ideas they call “evidence.” -- i.e., who cares how many kids get stuffed with the old frauds that remain in the text books even to this date, TV programs, magazines, etc. etc. etc. And for 2x2/visitors, compare that with workers who have said they have 'dealt with' their lies – decades ago, and still claim 'self correcting' to this date, and preach the same old same old in their 'Gospel Meetings.' Scientific Fraud (EP-2) - Neanderthal Man www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCT2hiZSgok
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Post by Lee on Mar 11, 2020 13:11:48 GMT -5
You will probably blame this on Christianity. I will blame in on humankind's fallen condition from his and her ideal. Where ever it came from originally, -Christianity promoted it and used it to the hilt to keep women & girls down and subject to men and the pursuits of men.
From vocations, jobs, sports, etc.
And if you don't recognize that then you are either in denial of facts or do not know Christian history.IMO it's been a mix. In some cases Christianity has been wrested to subject women in demeaning and ungodly ways. But Christianity proper, only supposes that in a perfect world man has a leadership role that women play a complementary role to. Now that can't be said and it certainly can't be proved to be an ungodly, pathological assumption apart from the post modern neosalvation assumptions that posits equality in all things to the elimination of sexual distinction. We see hostility now, from coed bathrooms and locker rooms, to indoctrinating, tax payer funded PBS shows for children, to California law initiatives to mandate cogender toy aisles.
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Post by Ed on Mar 11, 2020 15:36:31 GMT -5
More pseudoscience exposed: "Some time ago I was reading that the earth is 4.55 billion years old and I asked myself ‘How do we know it is that old?’. I found the answer in the isotope dating literature. But what else I found there convinced me that we don’t know that the world is 4.55 billion years old. See what you think!" creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j06_1/j06_1_2-5.pdf
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Post by rational on Mar 11, 2020 18:33:05 GMT -5
Lee, -You can play fast & loose with the dictionary if it make you feel better but that won't make your definitions correct.
Definition of anti
: opposed to : against
Now, -that is the definition in the Merriam Webster dictionary so I will take their word for the meaning of the word over yours. Sorry. But then, we wouldn't want poor Mr. Webster rolling over in his grave, would we?
One cannot be "anti" something or someone that don't believe exists to start with. I am not "anti-god" or "opposed to or against" god.
You are anti god. You and others here believe the belief in God retards progress, it retards a salvation that would arise from the collaboration of power (secular government) and tapping the mysteries of the universe, worshiping it as it were, ostensibly, so we might know more how to live and behave. It is tough to be against something in which you do not believe. I guess that would make you anti-elves. The belief in god does not retard progress. Adhering to a mythical text and ignoring verifiable facts to the contrary does.
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Post by snow on Mar 11, 2020 19:14:29 GMT -5
Evolution is the process. It doesn't say how it all started. That's Abiogenesis. There is no reason to not believe in evolution and still believe in God. The Pope is an example of being able to do that. The only time evolution is negated as being true is by those who believe the earth is only 6000 or 13,000 (depends on the creationists belief) years old. So everything needs to be created all at once in their opinion, but evolution takes billions of years. I don't what you mean by your last sentence. Let's worship the pope! My last sentence.... It's my belief we are frail creatures spiritually and psychologically and what light we do have on Earth came from heaven. LOL lets not worship the pope! Thanks for explaining.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 21:28:17 GMT -5
The problem with secularism is it forgot to give thanks to the one who made it. Now it's become fashionable to think it WASNT made by anyone. You can look at this as the problem with a sectarian church. As you lose sight of an external reference, you begin to worship yourselves. I was under the impression that the unreasonable, irrational and hideous aspects of religion made secularism. So to religions then goes all praise and glory for making the rejection of religious dogma a preferable option to themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 21:40:04 GMT -5
You are anti god. You and others here believe the belief in God retards progress, it retards a salvation that would arise from the collaboration of power (secular government) and tapping the mysteries of the universe, worshiping it as it were, ostensibly, so we might know more how to live and behave. It is tough to be against something in which you do not believe. I guess that would make you anti-elves. The belief in god does not retard progress. Adhering to a mythical text and ignoring verifiable facts to the contrary does. Tolkien wouldn't have written of elves if they didn't exist. We weren't there when he wrote about them, so we'd be fools not to believe! Some people even reject Gandalf, who slew the Balrog and rose again spotless and white! These awizardists and aelvists will be beaten with many stripes, and will be shut out of Valinor!
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 12, 2020 1:07:02 GMT -5
Where ever it came from originally, -Christianity promoted it and used it to the hilt to keep women & girls down and subject to men and the pursuits of men.
From vocations, jobs, sports, etc.
And if you don't recognize that then you are either in denial of facts or do not know Christian history. IMO it's been a mix. In some cases Christianity has been wrested to subject women in demeaning and ungodly ways. But Christianity proper, only supposes that in a perfect world man has a leadership role that women play a complementary role to. Now that can't be said and it certainly can't be proved to be an ungodly, pathological assumption apart from the post modern neosalvation assumptions that posits equality in all things to the elimination of sexual distinction. We see hostility now, from coed bathrooms and locker rooms, to indoctrinating, tax payer funded PBS shows for children, to California law initiatives to mandate cogender toy aisles. BS, Lee. You are just exposing your own sexism.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 12, 2020 1:43:32 GMT -5
It is tough to be against something in which you do not believe. I guess that would make you anti-elves. The belief in god does not retard progress. Adhering to a mythical text and ignoring verifiable facts to the contrary does. Tolkien wouldn't have written of elves if they didn't exist. We weren't there when he wrote about them, so we'd be fools not to believe! Some people even reject Gandalf, who slew the Balrog and rose again spotless and white! These awizardists and aelvists will be beaten with many stripes, and will be shut out of Valinor! I like how Farmer Giles dog, Gar, took on the dragon.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 12, 2020 4:41:02 GMT -5
More pseudoscience exposed: "Some time ago I was reading that the earth is 4.55 billion years old and I asked myself ‘How do we know it is that old?’. I found the answer in the isotope dating literature. But what else I found there convinced me that we don’t know that the world is 4.55 billion years old. See what you think!" creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j06_1/j06_1_2-5.pdf I tried to find out more information about the writer of that book outside of your post & could not find him or the book.
Could you give more details?
Thanks.
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Post by Lee on Mar 12, 2020 9:32:12 GMT -5
IMO it's been a mix. In some cases Christianity has been wrested to subject women in demeaning and ungodly ways. But Christianity proper, only supposes that in a perfect world man has a leadership role that women play a complementary role to. Now that can't be said and it certainly can't be proved to be an ungodly, pathological assumption apart from the post modern neosalvation assumptions that posits equality in all things to the elimination of sexual distinction. We see hostility now, from coed bathrooms and locker rooms, to indoctrinating, tax payer funded PBS shows for children, to California law initiatives to mandate cogender toy aisles. BS, Lee. You are just exposing your own sexism.
I am sexist in the sense I believe men should lead in our common struggle against evil.
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Post by Lee on Mar 12, 2020 9:34:06 GMT -5
The problem with secularism is it forgot to give thanks to the one who made it. Now it's become fashionable to think it WASNT made by anyone. You can look at this as the problem with a sectarian church. As you lose sight of an external reference, you begin to worship yourselves. I was under the impression that the unreasonable, irrational and hideous aspects of religion made secularism. So to religions then goes all praise and glory for making the rejection of religious dogma a preferable option to themselves. False religion is rejectable. My experience with secularism is it tends to kick you back to theism in a quest to find handles to it.
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Post by Lee on Mar 12, 2020 9:47:23 GMT -5
You are anti god. You and others here believe the belief in God retards progress, it retards a salvation that would arise from the collaboration of power (secular government) and tapping the mysteries of the universe, worshiping it as it were, ostensibly, so we might know more how to live and behave. It is tough to be against something in which you do not believe. I guess that would make you anti-elves. The belief in god does not retard progress. Adhering to a mythical text and ignoring verifiable facts to the contrary does. That's not what progressives believe. Progressives believe theists are uniquely responsible for retarding progress by Believing our lives after this one are at least as important as this one Believing that church is not a drain of resources but a creative response to evil. Believing that God created human kind male and female and we should indoctrinate children on the assumption men and women are the genesis of family. Believing that abortion is wrong, and the use of fetal material for research is wrong. Believing that right and wrong are transcendent values.
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