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Post by openingact34 on Jul 19, 2019 19:17:59 GMT -5
Today, the worldlings are all celebrating the anniversary of Apollo 11 and looking forward to more cavorting about the solar system.
But what does the Bible say about space exploration?
"The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men." - Psalm 115:16
You might say that the first "astronaut" was the devil, as described in Isaiah 14:12-16 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
Or perhaps John F. Kennedy is the better analogy. After announcing that mankind would ascend above the clouds into the heavens and walk upon the moon, he was struck down. Perhaps by God? Kennedy toured NASA only six days before his assassination.
This is not simply an "Old Testament thing" either. In Acts 17:26, Paul preaches that God "hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".
One thing is sure: You cannot truly be a Christian and work in the aerospace area.
We hope that those who are currently mired in the wickedness of designing and building rockets, satellites, and planes will prayerfully consider these matters, repent, and leave the aerospace field to secular people.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 19, 2019 19:27:06 GMT -5
Today, the worldlings are all celebrating the anniversary of Apollo 11 and looking forward to more cavorting about the solar system. But what does the Bible say about space exploration? "The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men." - Psalm 115:16 You might say that the first "astronaut" was the devil, as described in Isaiah 14:12-16 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
Or perhaps John F. Kennedy is the better analogy. After announcing that mankind would ascend above the clouds into the heavens and walk upon the moon, he was struck down. Perhaps by God? Kennedy toured NASA only six days before his assassination. This is not simply an "Old Testament thing" either. In Acts 17:26, Paul preaches that God "hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".One thing is sure: You cannot truly be a Christian and work in the aerospace area. We hope that those who are currently mired in the wickedness of designing and building rockets, satellites, and planes will prayerfully consider these matters, repent, and leave the aerospace field to secular people. Should we ask how high our airplane will be flying before we buy our ticket?
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Post by Lee on Jul 19, 2019 20:22:40 GMT -5
I'm going to Splashdown, a celebration of the command module retrieval on the USS Hornet museum in Alameda, CA tomorrow evening, with my brother and two friends.
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Post by Lee on Jul 19, 2019 20:23:46 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Jul 19, 2019 20:27:13 GMT -5
I read Moon Men Return by Scott Carmichael this summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 21:20:14 GMT -5
Today, the worldlings are all celebrating the anniversary of Apollo 11 and looking forward to more cavorting about the solar system. But what does the Bible say about space exploration? "The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men." - Psalm 115:16 You might say that the first "astronaut" was the devil, as described in Isaiah 14:12-16 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
Or perhaps John F. Kennedy is the better analogy. After announcing that mankind would ascend above the clouds into the heavens and walk upon the moon, he was struck down. Perhaps by God? Kennedy toured NASA only six days before his assassination. This is not simply an "Old Testament thing" either. In Acts 17:26, Paul preaches that God "hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".One thing is sure: You cannot truly be a Christian and work in the aerospace area. We hope that those who are currently mired in the wickedness of designing and building rockets, satellites, and planes will prayerfully consider these matters, repent, and leave the aerospace field to secular people. i worked for Boeing Space and Defense....nothing wrong with that....
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Post by Lee on Jul 19, 2019 21:22:40 GMT -5
Many people say the first moonwalk was a unifying event during a timultuous time. Everythings peaceful now right? I wanted to hear a Yes song this evening, 'And you and I'. Then I got curious about the meaning and googled for some thoughts. I found this, and I think the author hit it! alangullette.com/essays/lit/u_and_i.htm
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Post by nathan on Jul 19, 2019 22:14:04 GMT -5
Today, the worldlings are all celebrating the anniversary of Apollo 11 and looking forward to more cavorting about the solar system. But what does the Bible say about space exploration? "The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men." - Psalm 115:16 You might say that the first "astronaut" was the devil, as described in Isaiah 14:12-16 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
Or perhaps John F. Kennedy is the better analogy. After announcing that mankind would ascend above the clouds into the heavens and walk upon the moon, he was struck down. Perhaps by God? Kennedy toured NASA only six days before his assassination. This is not simply an "Old Testament thing" either. In Acts 17:26, Paul preaches that God "hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".One thing is sure: You cannot truly be a Christian and work in the aerospace area. We hope that those who are currently mired in the wickedness of designing and building rockets, satellites, and planes will prayerfully consider these matters, repent, and leave the aerospace field to secular people. If travel in Space is wicked and sinful as you put it then God is the worse sinner of them all, because after 1000 yrs reign with Christ and His people on earth and in the Universe is finished then God and ALL of the believers live in Space in their NEW city in heaven forever more. This Old earth will be destroyed with heavenly FIRE from God.
By the way, Jesus came from heaven to earth does make HIM a wicked person? He came from outer space to earth to die and redeem us from HELL/Everlasting Fire for eternity. Rev. 21:1-8 And I/John the apostle saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Post by snow on Jul 20, 2019 12:55:26 GMT -5
Today, the worldlings are all celebrating the anniversary of Apollo 11 and looking forward to more cavorting about the solar system. But what does the Bible say about space exploration? "The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men." - Psalm 115:16 You might say that the first "astronaut" was the devil, as described in Isaiah 14:12-16 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
Or perhaps John F. Kennedy is the better analogy. After announcing that mankind would ascend above the clouds into the heavens and walk upon the moon, he was struck down. Perhaps by God? Kennedy toured NASA only six days before his assassination. This is not simply an "Old Testament thing" either. In Acts 17:26, Paul preaches that God "hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".One thing is sure: You cannot truly be a Christian and work in the aerospace area. We hope that those who are currently mired in the wickedness of designing and building rockets, satellites, and planes will prayerfully consider these matters, repent, and leave the aerospace field to secular people. If travel in Space is wicked and sinful as you put it then God is the worse sinner of them all, because after 1000 yrs reign with Christ and His people on earth and in the Universe is finished then God and ALL of the believers live in Space in their NEW city in heaven forever more. This Old earth will be destroyed with heavenly FIRE from God.
By the way, Jesus came from heaven to earth does make HIM a wicked person? He came from outer space to earth to die and redeem us from HELL/Everlasting Fire for eternity. Rev. 21:1-8 And I/John the apostle saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.Well you have to admit, God is the biggest cause of death....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jul 20, 2019 19:40:06 GMT -5
The OP is why religion and those that believe in it are so dangerous.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2019 21:04:51 GMT -5
8 But the . . ladymongers . . shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Have ladys been given new status?
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Post by nathan on Jul 20, 2019 21:06:06 GMT -5
If travel in Space is wicked and sinful as you put it then God is the worse sinner of them all, because after 1000 yrs reign with Christ and His people on earth and in the Universe is finished then God and ALL of the believers live in Space in their NEW city in heaven forever more. This Old earth will be destroyed with heavenly FIRE from God.
By the way, Jesus came from heaven to earth does make HIM a wicked person? He came from outer space to earth to die and redeem us from HELL/Everlasting Fire for eternity. Rev. 21:1-8 And I/John the apostle saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and ladymongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Well you have to admit, God is the biggest cause of death.... NO, God did NOT cause death it was Adam and Eve choice in the Garden of Eden that brought DEATH into the World. It was Satan who brought DEATH into the world by deceiving Adam and Eve into following/choosing him as their god/The Tree of knowledge of good and evil instead Christ/The TREE of Eternal life. Christ came down from heaven to RESTORE our immortality which God gave Adam and Eve before the FALL.
Satan brings DEATH and separation from God into the world; Christ/Jesus brought ETERNAL to those who believe in Him the TREE of Life to those who believe and accept Him as their Redeemer and Savior of their souls.
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Post by Dennis J on Jul 20, 2019 21:15:06 GMT -5
Guess I am just one of the wicked and sinful, then, for I too sought to advance aerospace tech, feeling no guilt for it. Not even yet
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 21:16:04 GMT -5
8 But the . . ladymongers . . shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Have ladys been given new status? thats the TMB censor at work....
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2019 21:18:59 GMT -5
Have ladys been given new status? thats the TMB censor at work.... It wouldn't let me send the name of D. Middleton in a message either. It called him "thingy".
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Post by Dennis J on Jul 20, 2019 21:33:52 GMT -5
Must be glad our name is not Peter Peterson, then...? It won’t even let me post!
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2019 21:40:09 GMT -5
Must be glad our name is not Peter Peterson, then...? It won’t even let me post!
I know a guy named John Dick. Lets see how it send that d.ck.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2019 21:41:01 GMT -5
Must be glad our name is not Peter Peterson, then...? It won’t even let me post!
I know a guy named John Dick. Lets see how it send that d.ck. That's weird. I guess Dick is better than dick.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 20, 2019 21:41:32 GMT -5
I know a guy named John Dick. Lets see how it send that d.ck. That's weird. I guess Dick is better than dick.
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 20, 2019 21:46:57 GMT -5
i worked for Boeing Space and Defense....nothing wrong with that.... Was that in the days that you were being a ladymonger?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 21:47:33 GMT -5
i worked for Boeing Space and Defense....nothing wrong with that.... Was that in the days that you were being a ladymonger? nope after....thanks for asking though wouldn't want anyone to get confused....
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 20, 2019 21:48:59 GMT -5
If travel in Space is wicked and sinful as you put it then God is the worse sinner of them all, because after 1000 yrs reign with Christ and His people on earth and in the Universe is finished then God and ALL of the believers live in Space in their NEW city in heaven forever more. This Old earth will be destroyed with heavenly FIRE from God.
By the way, Jesus came from heaven to earth does make HIM a wicked person? He came from outer space to earth to die and redeem us from HELL/Everlasting Fire for eternity.
From what I understand, God can drive his spaceship all he wants. It is only humans who are not permitted to be like God. It's also how we know that Valiant Thor is a evil false prophet.
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Post by nathan on Jul 20, 2019 22:04:35 GMT -5
If travel in Space is wicked and sinful as you put it then God is the worse sinner of them all, because after 1000 yrs reign with Christ and His people on earth and in the Universe is finished then God and ALL of the believers live in Space in their NEW city in heaven forever more. This Old earth will be destroyed with heavenly FIRE from God.
By the way, Jesus came from heaven to earth does make HIM a wicked person? He came from outer space to earth to die and redeem us from HELL/Everlasting Fire for eternity.
From what I understand, God can drive his spaceship all he wants. It is only humans who are not permitted to be like God. It's also how we know that Valiant Thor is a evil false prophet. What did Valiant Thor say or teach that you believe he is evil false prophet? Can you give me 3 examples, Thanks.
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God, Christ and Holy Spirit don't need spaceship to travel. They teleport themselves from place to place in a matter of seconds, the New Resurrected Jesus could appear and disappear in a blink of an eye. The disciples locked their door because they were terrified of the enemy in finding them, then a blink of an eye Jesus appeared among them.
When Jesus returns we/believers in Christ will have the same New Resurrected body like he has, that will NEVER die, get sick, or grow old. We can teleport wherever we want in a blink of an eye, no need spaceship to travel anywhere in the Universe.
John the apostle wrote I John 3:2 Dear friends, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when he/Jesus appears, we will be like him because we will see him as he is.
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 21, 2019 10:59:21 GMT -5
From what I understand, God can drive his spaceship all he wants. It is only humans who are not permitted to be like God. It's also how we know that Valiant Thor is a evil false prophet. What did Valiant Thor say or teach that you believe he is evil false prophet? Can you give me 3 examples, Thanks.God told humans in the Bible to stay on the earth, and he told the Venusians to stay inside hollow Venus, and all the other aliens to stay on their own planets. Only the wicked rebellious ones are flying around outside their planets. Additionally, if Val and the other occupants on his spaceship are of Christ, why did they land near Washington instead of at a convention? They would be happy to have him, as long as his spaceship does not bring worldliness into the holy grounds. (No TVs/radios built in or antennas on it please) In all the time that they have been on Earth, can you show me a single gospel meeting, convention, or fellowship meeting that Val has attended? Why do they consort with the worldlings instead of having fellowship with God's true people?
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Post by Lee on Jul 21, 2019 12:20:58 GMT -5
I'm going to Splashdown, a celebration of the command module retrieval on the USS Hornet museum in Alameda, CA tomorrow evening, with my brother and two friends. All and all it was a disappointment. The dinner was great. My friends were great. But the fanfare was.... alienating to me. Any modern ship is an engineering marvel, just as space exploration is. There was no provision for exploring the ship at this event, unlike my tour one year before with my friend and her seven year old. One speaker, a sailor apparently charged with greeting President Nixon who had boarded the USS Hornet for the historic retreival, showed video and slides he personally took. He lamented the lack of pictures of himself with the president, but admitted to projecting his self importance on the event. The command module was successfully retrieved in the early AM. By midnight all was quiet. The astronauts and their doctors were contained in their quarantined, air stream trailer in the hanger bay in case of "moon germs". By midnight, the cacophony of comedy, pomp, and hard work summated in quietude. In his personal recollection, this was his favorite moment of the whole day.
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Post by snow on Jul 21, 2019 16:53:35 GMT -5
Well you have to admit, God is the biggest cause of death.... NO, God did NOT cause death it was Adam and Eve choice in the Garden of Eden that brought DEATH into the World. It was Satan who brought DEATH into the world by deceiving Adam and Eve into following/choosing him as their god/The Tree of knowledge of good and evil instead Christ/The TREE of Eternal life. Christ came down from heaven to RESTORE our immortality which God gave Adam and Eve before the FALL.
Satan brings DEATH and separation from God into the world; Christ/Jesus brought ETERNAL to those who believe in Him the TREE of Life to those who believe and accept Him as their Redeemer and Savior of their souls.
If God ever meant to have humans live forever he wouldn't have refused to let them eat from the tree of immortality, The Tree of Life. But he didn't want them living forever and he didn't want them to have knowledge of good and evil. Basically he didn't want humans to have free will and live forever.
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Post by snow on Jul 21, 2019 16:56:27 GMT -5
What did Valiant Thor say or teach that you believe he is evil false prophet? Can you give me 3 examples, Thanks. God told humans in the Bible to stay on the earth, and he told the Venusians to stay inside hollow Venus, and all the other aliens to stay on their own planets. Only the wicked rebellious ones are flying around outside their planets. Additionally, if Val and the other occupants on his spaceship are of Christ, why did they land near Washington instead of at a convention? They would be happy to have him, as long as his spaceship does not bring worldliness into the holy grounds. (No TVs/radios built in or antennas on it please) In all the time that they have been on Earth, can you show me a single gospel meeting, convention, or fellowship meeting that Val has attended? Why do they consort with the worldlings instead of having fellowship with God's true people? LOL What you don't learn on TMB....
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Post by nathan on Jul 21, 2019 17:18:04 GMT -5
What did Valiant Thor say or teach that you believe he is evil false prophet? Can you give me 3 examples, Thanks. 1) God told humans in the Bible to stay on the earth, and he told the Venusians to stay inside hollow Venus, and all the other aliens to stay on their own planets. Only the wicked rebellious ones are flying around outside their planets. Read Genesis chapters 17-19. The LORD God/Christ came down from heaven/Venus to earth in human body/form to talk to Abraham and Sarah about the birth of their son Isaac. There were two human-looking angels accompanied the LORD/Christ, he stayed and talked to Abraham and the two Venusians angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family.
I believe you have misinterpreted those verses that you posted because God sent an angel to Garden of Eden to guard the TREE of life with flaming sword. One angel of God slew 185,000 Assyrian soldiers on night. In Isa 47:36 The LORD sent an angel to the camp of the Assyrians, and he killed 185,000 of them all in one night. The next morning, the camp was full of dead bodies. An angel of the LORD went to the Assyrian camp and killed 185,000 soldiers. At dawn the next day there they lay, all dead!
The angels of God appeared on earth as God's messengers in the Old and New Testament many times... At Jesus birth to tell the shepherds of the good news, Gabriel appeared to Joseph and Mary, they appeared and pushed away the big stone that guard at the tomb entrance to show the disciples that Jesus is NOT dead but risen.
They told the disciples that this same Jesus they saw went up into heaven will return in the same way one day, they rescued Peter from prison.2) Additionally, if Val and the other occupants on his spaceship are of Christ, why did they land near Washington instead of at a convention? They would be happy to have him, as long as his spaceship does not bring worldliness into the holy grounds. (No TVs/radios built in or antennas on it please) In all the time that they have been on Earth, can you show me a single gospel meeting, convention, or fellowship meeting that Val has attended? Why do they consort with the worldlings instead of having fellowship with God's true people? Well, God has more important mission for Valiant, Donn Thor and the Venusians angels to accomplish to tell to the world Chris is coming back soon and he cares about them.
~~ Valiant Thor "Created Being" from Interior planet of Venus arrived in 1957-60 at the Pentagon said to Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges, " There is LIFE on MANY other Planets, that the people of this earth know nothing about. There are presently 77 of us/Venusians walking among you in the United States. We are constantly coming and going. "We (Pastor Frank and Valiant Thor) discussed the merits of Jesus Christ ... how He gave His Life freely... so that men could enjoy the benefits of eternal life. I questioned him about a Bible on Venus and he assured me that a personal unbroken fellowship with the "Author" did not necessitate the printing of a "book". He found it amusing that many theologians attempt to discredit both Jesus Christ and The Bible. The very God many have said is "dead" continues to lavish them with all good things. Perhaps they will, in time, permit the spark of Divine Light to again illuminate their troubled hearts. In answer to my question of what he thought of Jesus Christ, he said, "I know that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega of yours and everyone else faith. He today has assumed His rightful position as the ruler of the universe and is preparing a place and a time for all who are called by His Name to ascend far above the clouds to where His Power and Authority shall never again be disputed.There are more solar systems for which man has not even given God credit. There are many beings that have never transgressed the perfect laws of God. Man does not possess the right to condemn the whole of God's creation because he himself has broken the perfect laws of God through disobedience." ~~ Don't worry, When Jesus returns the 2x2s living on earth will be raptured or taken up in the sky with Him and Holy angels. God has given the Venusian angels the mission to spread the goodnews where Jesus is LIVING now! and He is coming back soon to reign on the earth and the Universe 1000 yrs.
So, the workers and friends continue do their mission as lights and salt in the world, and the Venusians angels to accomplish their mission God has given them to fill.
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