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Post by Annan on Oct 20, 2019 21:48:59 GMT -5
Hmmm... So people of faith never die of disease or cancer? If they do die, did they not have enough faith? Did God say no to their prayers? I don't get it. Seriously I don't. I want to understand the thought process here. I admit I didn't watch the video, so perhaps I missed something. And what is it exactly that Atheists are jealous of? you have to understand openingact34 is just here to make fun of christians he's no longer a christian himself.... Oh. Now I get it. Thanks! *blushes*  |
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2019 11:08:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 11:54:03 GMT -5
call me when the flu turns in to cancer or ms or crohns disease... |
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Post by xna on Oct 21, 2019 12:12:48 GMT -5
call me when the flu turns in to cancer or ms or crohns disease... The Flu Shot doesn't not cause "cancer or ms or crohns disease..." BUT .......... There are true believers of even this. |
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Post by snow on Oct 21, 2019 12:38:45 GMT -5
call me when the flu turns in to cancer or ms or crohns disease... Wally, please take a course that explains what evolution actually says. Why do you constantly say things like this which is not at all how evolution works? You're intelligent, but things like this are so inaccurate. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 17:25:22 GMT -5
call me when the flu turns in to cancer or ms or crohns disease... Wally, please take a course that explains what evolution actually says. Why do you constantly say things like this which is not at all how evolution works? You're intelligent, but things like this are so inaccurate. if an amoeba can evolve into a human i expect to see the flu evolve into cancer etc.... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 17:26:54 GMT -5
call me when the flu turns in to cancer or ms or crohns disease... The Flu Shot doesn't not cause "cancer or ms or crohns disease..." BUT .......... There are true believers of even this. didn't really say that i was talking evilution... |
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 21, 2019 21:56:22 GMT -5
Wally, please take a course that explains what evolution actually says. Why do you constantly say things like this which is not at all how evolution works? You're intelligent, but things like this are so inaccurate. if an amoeba can evolve into a human i expect to see the flu evolve into cancer etc.... You'll never live long enough. FWIW, if you lived long enough, and if you actually had any progeny, you might be interested in seeing what YOU have evolved into. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 22:38:31 GMT -5
if an amoeba can evolve into a human i expect to see the flu evolve into cancer etc.... You'll never live long enough. FWIW, if you lived long enough, and if you actually had any progeny, you might be interested in seeing what YOU have evolved into. the flu evolves every year don't ya know? |
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Oct 22, 2019 2:30:20 GMT -5
if an amoeba can evolve into a human i expect to see the flu evolve into cancer etc.... You'll never live long enough. FWIW, if you lived long enough, and if you actually had any progeny, you might be interested in seeing what YOU have evolved into. god help us! |
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Post by snow on Oct 22, 2019 11:07:02 GMT -5
Wally, please take a course that explains what evolution actually says. Why do you constantly say things like this which is not at all how evolution works? You're intelligent, but things like this are so inaccurate. if an amoeba can evolve into a human i expect to see the flu evolve into cancer etc.... An amoeba evolved into a multi celled organism and that evolved into the next step and so forth. It's always possible that any medication we take could have the unfortunate possibility of triggering cancer cells, but it doesn't 'evolve' into cancer. That's not how evolution works. |
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Post by snow on Oct 22, 2019 11:16:47 GMT -5
You'll never live long enough. FWIW, if you lived long enough, and if you actually had any progeny, you might be interested in seeing what YOU have evolved into. the flu evolves every year don't ya know? Yes it does mutate and improve itself to assure it's possible survival in the host of it's choice. Something added to the vaccine could be found to cause cancer (in other words trigger it in us), but the flu doesn't become cancer because cancer already exists. Cancer cells are cells that grow uncontrollably and finally take over the host and kill it. We all have cells that can potentially turn into cancer cells if our immune system is compromised. Once two things exist in their own right, they don't evolve to become that other species. We don't evolve into an existing species. It's not how evolution works. I'm just a layman in my understanding of all this, but that's how I understand it. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I have said something inaccurate at any time about how I understand evolution to work. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 11:29:23 GMT -5
the flu evolves every year don't ya know? Yes it does mutate and improve itself to assure it's possible survival in the host of it's choice. Something added to the vaccine could be found to cause cancer (in other words trigger it in us), but the flu doesn't become cancer because cancer already exists. Cancer cells are cells that grow uncontrollably and finally take over the host and kill it. We all have cells that can potentially turn into cancer cells if our immune system is compromised. Once two things exist in their own right, they don't evolve to become that other species. We don't evolve into an existing species. It's not how evolution works. I'm just a layman in my understanding of all this, but that's how I understand it. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I have said something inaccurate at any time about how I understand evolution to work. according to evilution there were multiple human species that came from different tangents so could the same thing happen with the flu virus according to evilution.... |
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Post by snow on Oct 22, 2019 12:46:17 GMT -5
Yes it does mutate and improve itself to assure it's possible survival in the host of it's choice. Something added to the vaccine could be found to cause cancer (in other words trigger it in us), but the flu doesn't become cancer because cancer already exists. Cancer cells are cells that grow uncontrollably and finally take over the host and kill it. We all have cells that can potentially turn into cancer cells if our immune system is compromised. Once two things exist in their own right, they don't evolve to become that other species. We don't evolve into an existing species. It's not how evolution works. I'm just a layman in my understanding of all this, but that's how I understand it. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I have said something inaccurate at any time about how I understand evolution to work. according to evilution there were multiple human species that came from different tangents so could the same thing happen with the flu virus according to evilution.... Yes there were different groups of humanoid but they came from a common ancestor. Over time groups separated and evolved along their individual branches. It's exactly what I've been saying about how a species can be separated from it's group and over a long period of time it changes enough that it can no longer reproduce with their original group. When the various groups went their different evolutionary paths and became what what we see today and/or became extinct we saw similar looking groups that were still enough different that they couldn't reproduce together. Some could. We share a common ancestor with them as do the large ape but we have evolved enough to no longer be close enough to the large ape to reproduce with them. humanorigins.si.edu/education/introduction-human-evolutionhumanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-family-treeSo flu doesn't mutate to something that already exists. We are not the bonobo or other early humanoid groups but we do share some of their DNA through a common ancestor. Look at the similarities between early man and the great ape. And of course we share 98% of the great ape DNA. |
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 22, 2019 12:53:04 GMT -5
Yes it does mutate and improve itself to assure it's possible survival in the host of it's choice. Something added to the vaccine could be found to cause cancer (in other words trigger it in us), but the flu doesn't become cancer because cancer already exists. Cancer cells are cells that grow uncontrollably and finally take over the host and kill it. We all have cells that can potentially turn into cancer cells if our immune system is compromised. Once two things exist in their own right, they don't evolve to become that other species. We don't evolve into an existing species. It's not how evolution works. I'm just a layman in my understanding of all this, but that's how I understand it. Anyone with more knowledge please correct me if I have said something inaccurate at any time about how I understand evolution to work. according to evilution there were multiple human species that came from different tangents so could the same thing happen with the flu virus according to evilution....  |
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 22, 2019 14:37:55 GMT -5
according to evilution there were multiple human species that came from different tangents so could the same thing happen with the flu virus according to evilution.... Yes there were different groups of humanoid but they came from a common ancestor. Over time groups separated and evolved along their individual branches. It's exactly what I've been saying about how a species can be separated from it's group and over a long period of time it changes enough that it can no longer reproduce with their original group. When the various groups went their different evolutionary paths and became what what we see today and/or became extinct we saw similar looking groups that were still enough different that they couldn't reproduce together. Some could. We share a common ancestor with them as do the large ape but we have evolved enough to no longer be close enough to the large ape to reproduce with them. humanorigins.si.edu/education/introduction-human-evolutionhumanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-family-treeSo flu doesn't mutate to something that already exists. We are not the bonobo or other early humanoid groups but we do share some of their DNA through a common ancestor. Look at the similarities between early man and the great ape. And of course we share 98% of the great ape DNA. Don't waste your time trying to teach science to Christians. Everybody knows that Noah gathered up 2 of every virus and 2 of every bacterium to take on the Ark. 1 male virus, and one female virus. |
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Post by Gene on Oct 23, 2019 4:55:28 GMT -5
A few years ago, I worked for a company out of Arizona during flu shot season. We have pneumonia shots as well as shingles vaccines. When I had a client this small, I’d have them sit sideways on their parents lap and facing away from me. I’d line it up to where they wouldn’t see the vaccine bottle nor the syringes. Then I’d tell them I was going to wipe their arm with the alcohol pad and it’d be cold. Then as I reached behind them to pick up the syringe, I’d tell them they needed to watch their parent in case their parent started to cry. I never had one child cry after I gave them their flu shot. They’d be so watchful of their parent they wouldn’t hardly know when I gave them their shot. Of course, when I wiped their little arms off with the alcohol pad I never moved my left hand off their arm. I had one little 4 y/o boy ask me, “ Well! When are you going to give me my shot?” I’d already given it and was putting the bandaid on but I never moved my left hand off the child until the bandaid was on. He said, “Mama didn’t cry, but I thought there for a bit she was goin’!” I told him , “See now why I wanted you to watch her? If you hadn’t watched her, then if she’d gone ahead and cried it would have scared you because you wouldn’t have been expecting her to cry.” He said, “That’s right. I’m glad I was there to keep her from crying!” 😀 i had so many shots as a kid i learned to hate needles....still do to this day....there was one nurse though that would pinch my butt real hard while she stuck me and i couldn't tell she was giving me a shot.... I guess getting pinched in the butt while getting a shot in the shoulder would serve as quite the distraction.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 7:25:26 GMT -5
i had so many shots as a kid i learned to hate needles....still do to this day....there was one nurse though that would pinch my butt real hard while she stuck me and i couldn't tell she was giving me a shot.... I guess getting pinched in the butt while getting a shot in the shoulder would serve as quite the distraction. ermmm let me rephrase that...while getting a shot in the butt she would pinch me in the butt...  |
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