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Post by Get off of TMB on Dec 14, 2017 19:24:22 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help.
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Post by snow on Dec 14, 2017 19:30:32 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help. They were used in gospel meetings where I grew up. Do they not do that anymore? |
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Post by Get off of TMB on Dec 14, 2017 19:47:32 GMT -5
I remember a few workers playing the organ in gospel meetings in the 1970s and 1980s. Sunday morning and Wednesday night meetings were acapella only.
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Post by nathan on Dec 14, 2017 19:51:01 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 20:11:38 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help. They were used in gospel meetings where I grew up. Do they not do that anymore? yes they still play the piano if there is one available for gospel mtgs... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 0:28:47 GMT -5
Recalling a time shortly after compressed fracture of my fifth lumbar, when practicing on a portable electric organ the Swedish hymns chosen for an approaching service, and focusing upon the written music and timing and being jerked off the stool upon which I sat while hearing him snarl, “l told you not so much base!” Now that was an ouchie instant! So, what is a trained hand-to-hand combat medic gonna do? If he is indeed born again, he will respond kindly and decently, however with some effort!
He told me a couple of days later I had to forgive him because he was an army cavalry officer many years before. Shocked even once again, I responded, “and how many years have you been in the work?” Yes, he was speechless then, I left that work shortly afterwards, couldn’t take any more. Sad sigh. Because a fractured vertebrae is impossible to see, people just couldn’t understand.
Remains vivid in my mind and memory, though!
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 15, 2017 15:22:47 GMT -5
From History of Instrumental Music: It is crucially important to observe that although instrumental music of various types was readily available in contemporary society, no passage shows that the churches mentioned in the New Testament ever used instrumental music in worship. Did they not understand the true meaning of the Old Testament, particularly Psalms? Did they not understand the meaning of various words, such as psallo, etc., so often discussed pro and con in contemporary debates? Did they not know the Jewish practices, both in the temple and in the synagogues? Did they not know the mind of God? Most certainly, on all these questions and much more. Yet, there is not even a hint of the use of instrumental music in the worship of these churches. These facts of New Testament history stand as a stone barricade against any attempted justification of the use of instrumental music in worship today. If present appeals to the Old Testament, i.e., psallo, the temple or synagogue practice, etc., legitimately warrant such use, why did the apostles and brethren in the first century not so understand and incorporate instrumental music into the worship of these churches? Such facts are not lightly to be dismissed or forgotten. The several general periods of religious history, from the close of the New Testament until the present, have been searched many times from many viewpoints. These searches yield one significant fact for the present topic, which is clear and unassailable: Instrumental music in worship within churches professing to serve Christ did not emerge until hundreds of years after the close of the New Testament. The general dates of the adoption of instrumental music in worship vary with the historian, but all agree it was centuries after the New Testament was completed...M.C. Kurfees cited older historians and encyclopists who dated the introduction of instrumental music in church worship from the early 600s. Read the rest of the article at: www.christiancourier.com/articles/1271-history-of-instrumental-music
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 10:15:21 GMT -5
Harumph! Musta had too much base, ‘spose?
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Post by Jason Storebo on Dec 18, 2017 6:44:00 GMT -5
As I recall, with possible exceptions, a professing pianist usually played piano at gospel meetings.
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Post by snow on Dec 18, 2017 15:07:48 GMT -5
We had a lady come to our meeting for years and she usually led everyone because she had a beautiful voice and could keep the rest on key because she also had a powerful voice.
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Post by Pragmatic on Dec 18, 2017 16:37:11 GMT -5
I've done more than my fair share of playing piano at the missions, special meetings, sometimes piano in a Wednesday night study meeting, and also organ. People sing better.
I would have no issue with other instruments in a special meeting scenario either. Guitar and piano are very useful in giving metre, whereas organ or strings require particularly skilful players for people to sing in time with.
At a Catholic funeral last week, where an organ and cello were used, the congregation hardly knew when they were supposed to sing.
Some of the old school think it detracts from the "sacredness" of the singing, or becomes a stage for a musician's ego. With the right people, both arguments are negated.
Georgie Manning used to like about 10 minutes of playing before the start of a Gospel meeting, and just a couple of verses of each hymn with variation, so it didn't "get boring!"
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Post by speak on Dec 18, 2017 21:39:57 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help. You not much help with singing either huh? |
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Post by ellie on Dec 18, 2017 23:28:20 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help. We used the piano on Sundays if there were few of us. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 19, 2017 1:14:37 GMT -5
Some people used to have a meeting on Sunday morning in the house back
to back with my daughter's house, and they used to have accappella singing.
There would be maybe 5 hymns during the length of the meeting, and we
could hear it very easily. Surprisingly it really sounded nice, but
I think in the room the couple of people who would get off tune might
be more noticeable than it was outside.
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Post by calleduntoliberty on Dec 19, 2017 13:18:18 GMT -5
Why are musical instruments banned from the meetings? Nobody should be forced to but if someone wants to play the piano, why not allow it? I have been to meetings where the singing was pitiful..A piano would have been a big help. Many homes do not have pianos. Playing the piano because of the "big help" it can be might tend to viewing it as an important part of the meeting. There would be a bias, perhaps subtle at first, toward holding meetings in homes where there are pianos. Maybe they should work on their singing and then the piano wouldn't be needed. A musical instrument can be a distraction and bring focus to the skill of the player and the beauty of the piano music and away from the joint singing of the congregation and the words being sung. Many churches have a "worship leader" and/or "worship team" up-front playing several instruments and leading the singing. I've been in some of those meetings in which it seemed like many people in the congregation didn't bother singing. The singing was dominated by a select group. Sometimes they are more extreme and there is an outright performance by the performers up front, with no words provided to the congregation, who are functionally passive spectators. When there is no musical team (and analogously, no pastor/sermon), then all members are essentially on the same level and are free to minister to one another equally in their singing (praying, speaking). |
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Post by Grant on Dec 19, 2017 14:14:18 GMT -5
Most churches have the words to the song on a screen. I like that because it means that everyone is looking up instead of singing into a hymn book. I've never been to a church where there are no words like you say CUL.
Worship is an important part of many churches these days and can last half an hour. Everyone stands to sing which is great and I guess feels more respectful.
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