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Post by former 2x2 on Jun 15, 2006 19:56:02 GMT -5
I am a former 2x2. I have FAMILY that is still very strongly in the way. They may feel as if this is the only way. But, for US we know,it is not healthy. Why Did God give us a brain? To be creative and think for ourselves. To think outside of the box. We know there is a heaven and a hell, but we know GOD keeps a record of what we do here on earth. He is our judge! Not the workers nor the people we walk with are our judge of where we will spend eternity! So, why do the "people and workers" feel this is the only way?
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Post by a relative said on Jun 15, 2006 20:01:36 GMT -5
It is EXPECTED of family memebers to BE there every week @ Gospel Mtgs. My nephew said this past wk, I am TOO tired to go to MTG!He is under 10 yrs. old! What is the purpose to go to gospel mtg. if one is tired. Give it a rest, eh? ?
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Post by Hey NOW on Jun 15, 2006 20:09:18 GMT -5
Dont be shy... list a reply....
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Post by to former on Jun 15, 2006 20:29:27 GMT -5
I am a former 2x2. I have FAMILY that is still very strongly in the way. They may feel as if this is the only way. But, for US we know,it is not healthy. Why Did God give us a brain? To be creative and think for ourselves. To think outside of the box. We know there is a heaven and a hell, but we know GOD keeps a record of what we do here on earth. He is our judge! Not the workers nor the people we walk with are our judge of where we will spend eternity! So, why do the "people and workers" feel this is the only way? what is a former 2x2 why is it not healthy to think like that? is it because by that thought they have, leaves you out? if thats the case then your faith is not very strong did God give you a brain to please yourself, or just to simply obey Him? what box do you think we should think outside of? if you are outside the box why on earth should you worry whats going on in the box? what the workers or anyone else whos in the fellowship say think or do? why? because this is how the Holy Spirit reveals it unto us for you to have to ask these question appears to me that your faith is not strong, because you have to draw to attention what others are doing.
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Post by Done on Jun 15, 2006 20:36:55 GMT -5
How can "truth" be the one and only way?
Well, it can't really, so if someone were to claim such a thing, they would find themselves in need of defending an indefensible position, unless they fled as soon as they made their claim.
So, this question will get you one of three things: 1) A claim of exclusivity with no scriptural backing or 2) A claim of exclusivity with wrongly aplied scriptural backing or 3) Silence...
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Post by selah on Jun 15, 2006 22:53:24 GMT -5
Did Jesus care about those who were still inside the box of the Law? Did He care about what the teachers of the Law and those who listened to them were saying, thinking or doing?
Jesus was outside the box, but He didn't just say, "Too bad for them." He LOVED them. He tried to teach them. He suffered for them...even died for them. One thing He didn't do is just walk away and leave them alone, with no way out of the box.
The fellowship is not the box. Neither was Judaism the box. But false beliefs create a box....a box that limits how much of God you allow in your life.
Blessings, Linda
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Post by because on Jun 16, 2006 3:07:18 GMT -5
because Jesus was the truth and the only way
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Post by a former 2x2 on Jun 16, 2006 9:26:05 GMT -5
to because... Done and Selah.. thanks for your replies. And to Former.... a former 2x2 is someone who has exited Truth.
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Post by interested guest on Jun 16, 2006 9:59:50 GMT -5
to because... Done and Selah.. thanks for your replies. And to Former.... a former 2x2 is someone who has exited Truth. EDIT: to because....Done and Selah..thanks for your replies. And to Former... a former 2x2 is someone who has exited ........... change word............ a man made belief system. Jesus is the truth........... no capital, no lower case...............plain and simple
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Post by studylearning notlogged on Jun 16, 2006 10:00:03 GMT -5
because Jesus was the truth and the only way "WAS" I believe Jesus " is" the truth and only way.
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Post by One way on Jun 16, 2006 11:02:44 GMT -5
How can "truth" be the one and only way? Well, it can't really, so if someone were to claim such a thing, they would find themselves in need of defending an indefensible position, unless they fled as soon as they made their claim. So, this question will get you one of three things: 1) A claim of exclusivity with no scriptural backing or 2) A claim of exclusivity with wrongly aplied scriptural backing or 3) Silence... How can Christianity be the one and only way? The only backup documentation are of Christian origin. If you remove the self-supporting documents you are left with faith.
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Post by selah on Jun 16, 2006 11:29:39 GMT -5
Christianity is NOT the one and only way.
God is the one and only way to eternal life, and He made it open to mankind when He came to earth Himself, in the form of a man, Jesus Christ.
So, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life...not Christianity. Christianity is simply a system of beliefs about Him. Only Jesus, who is God, saves.
Christianity points to the one and only way.
Blessings, Linda
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Post by OH OH on Jun 16, 2006 12:07:34 GMT -5
Christianity is NOT the one and only way. God is the one and only way to eternal life, and He made it open to mankind when He came to earth Himself, in the form of a man, Jesus Christ. So, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life...not Christianity. Christianity is simply a system of beliefs about Him. Only Jesus, who is God, saves. Christianity points to the one and only way. Blessings, Linda It would appear that you have your own definition of Christianity. The simpliest common definition of a Christan is one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus. It follows that if you believe "Jesus is the way, the truth and the life" then you are a Christian. As a group, Christians form Christianity. If the entrance to Heaven is only, according to Jesus, by believing in Him, then to get to Heaven you must be a Chriatian and therefore be a member of Christianity. Can you see a way to be saved without being a Christian? js
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Post by lloydswanson on Jun 16, 2006 14:23:28 GMT -5
the 2x2 way is not the way the secret sect book is the only book to read
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Post by christine on Jun 16, 2006 15:44:59 GMT -5
I'm starting to think that this board is sdestroying what little faith I have left. Getting to a position of not knowing what to believe.
Is nothing solid anymore?
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Post by Bryanfromalaska on Jun 16, 2006 15:55:25 GMT -5
I'm starting to think that this board is sdestroying what little faith I have left. Faith in what? Faith in God? Faith in the 2x2 fellowship being the only way? Faith in Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior? Faith in what? We have all been there and have rested on Jesus Christ and God's mercy to show us the truth.
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Post by christine on Jun 16, 2006 15:59:40 GMT -5
Faith in God, faith In Jesus (same thing?)
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Post by Bryanfromalaska on Jun 16, 2006 16:01:39 GMT -5
Faith in God, faith In Jesus (same thing?) What on here would ever make you question your faith in our Lord Jesus Christ? Please explain for me if you have the time...
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Post by a believer on Jun 16, 2006 16:03:37 GMT -5
Our thoughts and prayers are with you. Just believe on Jesus, he is with you. ....
Love from a fellow believer
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Post by kelvin on Jun 16, 2006 16:04:02 GMT -5
I'm sympathetic to you Christine. I have been feeling this way for some months. I think that spiritually I'm almost dead.
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Post by Phillip on Jun 16, 2006 16:07:44 GMT -5
I too feel that this board gets me down. To see so many who claim to be Christians (2x2, or whatever other cult, group, denomination church etc) fighting, running each other down, picking holes in the errors of others, and generally finding fault just wears me down.
Its like a den of wolfs
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Post by Spell Check on Jun 16, 2006 16:46:35 GMT -5
I too feel that this board gets me down. To see so many who claim to be Christians (2x2, or whatever other cult, group, denomination church etc) fighting, running each other down, picking holes in the errors of others, and generally finding fault just wears me down. Its like a den of wolfs It's wolves Not to put too fine a point on it!
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Post by agree on Jun 16, 2006 17:07:42 GMT -5
Christine and others: I agree, this board can be depressing at times. What we have here are lots of people with lots of opinions, lots of psuedo-knowledge, and lots of backgrounds. It's like the old Roman days when men sat around and discussed all manner of "deep" philosophical and religious ideas. When it's all said and done, you're left with an empty bag of nothing, because all of the arguments are unprovable. Like others have said, it's really all about faith. And, who's to say your faith is better (or worse) than my faith? That is the great mystery of life, and I too am still searching for "real" answers beyond the discourse here, my upbringing, and the boundaries of my "box." It truly is about a personal relationship with God--and nobody else on earth can tell you if you have that or not, although many (here and elsewhere) would like to believe they DO have that power...
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Post by PLAY on Jun 16, 2006 17:43:37 GMT -5
because Jesus was the truth and the only way "WAS" I believe Jesus " is" the truth and only way. PLAY ON SEMANTICS
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Post by YEP on Jun 16, 2006 17:46:24 GMT -5
I'm starting to think that this board is sdestroying what little faith I have left. Getting to a position of not knowing what to believe. Is nothing solid anymore? yep dead right satan is a his best here ;D everybody saying here is Christ, there is Christ. just the way he loves it ;D
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Post by a few gentle souls on Jun 16, 2006 19:43:29 GMT -5
There are a number of gentle souls here at TMB who exhibit a true & loving Christian attitude; not many however.
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Post by selah on Jun 16, 2006 23:19:17 GMT -5
Yes, my view may be a little unorthodox, or at least the way I say it seems to be. I see Christianity as a framework of beliefs that points people to Jesus Christ. He is the way to be saved. It is Jesus Christ in me that saves me...and yes, that is the teaching of true Christianity. The problem is that there are many people who follow the "Christian" faith, but do not understand the main doctrine, of Christ IN us, our hope of glory. These are replacing true Christianity with a "system of salvation" (following a certain methodology of do's and don't's), not unlike many of the f&w. So....now coming full circle...I guess that yes, I must be a Christian to be saved, if by using the term Christian you mean I must have Jesus Christ indwelling me. Blessings, Linda
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Post by selah on Jun 16, 2006 23:34:45 GMT -5
Yes, SOMEONE is solid. He is the ROCK.
On Christ the solid ROCK I stand All other ground is sinking sand
Please, hang in there. Please don't grow discouraged. Cling to Jesus alone. He will direct your path as was promised.
I know there is a lot of discussion that can boggle the mind. Sometimes we need to re-evaluate what we believe, and the process is difficult. Sometimes it's even scary, because there are so many views to consider. Which one is right? Is there a right one at all?
Please believe this...Jesus is right AND He is personally interested in you and your spiritual journey. If these boards are distressing you, please take a break. Just go to the the bible, read, pray...tell God exactly what you're going through. He knows, but you NEED to tell Him.
Then listen. He will not give you a stone when you ask for bread. He will be found by you, if you seek Him with all your heart. Knock and the door will be opened. Trust HIM.
He is the SOLID ROCK.
Psalm 40 I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry. He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand. He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God.
Blessings, Linda
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