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Post by Annan on Jun 29, 2020 12:29:56 GMT -5
**You had better be hoping they don't read your posts here! *** I stand by my posts. I know these things are record in heaven to be judged in the judgment day so, you better take heed what you posts on here. **And you, sir, had better be on your knees asking forgiveness.
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Post by nathan on Jun 29, 2020 13:18:58 GMT -5
7/24/2021 Dan said: It makes no sense to criticize someone for something you have never done. Many people that offer for the Work don't stay in for life, but one should respect the effort and self-sacrifice regardless. One of my sisters did 15 years in the Work, she helped and encouraged a lot of people prior to leaving and getting married. Its not an easy thing, anyone with the faith to tackle it ought to be commended. Its easy to throw stones from the cheap seats on the sideline, but its important to recognize and appreciate those who contributed something of which we were incapable or unwilling to do ourselves. Nathan has obviously not lost his zest for spreading the gospel, whether one agrees with everything or not. Hope everyone can disagree without attacking? 1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak/2x2 elder stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go. God has spoken his truth to me, about who he is. Why are you so hyper- focused on this? I suspect that God has been trying to teach you for quite a while, but your own stubbornness and lack of humility is keeping you back. I have lived enough life to know that you would be hard pressed to find any 2 people who agreed on 100 percent of all there is to know! I do not believe that this is what Nathan is referring to. I will state here that Nathan and I both have been taught of Gods concerning our Godhead beliefs. My own Father is an elder meeting in his home, and believes the same. Many currently on this board, and others who used to post, believe the same concerning the Godhead Fixits own ways are his own judge. He admitted it himself, and said that he SHOULD be doing something more practical. As an elder's daughter, I do not respect his behavior here at all. He wastes so much time in here actually PROVOKING fights. So sad!2) Openingact34 ex-2x2 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker severely denounced fixit. On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth. Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5. Sep 14, 2020 fixit said: I have no idea who you are, C.William. A troll perhaps? I do know Olea, and I respect her right to protest the filth that Nathan has brought to this forum. Like Snow and others who have left TMB, Olea is too good for the cesspool that TMB has become. It's those who have made it a cesspool who should "get a grip". Sep 14, 2020 @ C.William said: Thanks, fixit . Also saw your previous sent post (now deleted) that simply said "Troll". You sure are a great guy, Fixit. Anyone can see that Olea has moaned about Nathan for months on (or is it years) is still stuck in the same place. Yes, she needs to get a grip or in a year's time her moans will still be filling this board. Your reply (particularly your original one) has made me think about what on earth I am doing here. So I'm leaving.
6/25/21 fixit/2x2 church elder said: Nathan is not a Christian, because he believes God and Jesus live inside Venus and angels fly in and out on spaceships. ~~ Openingact34 wrote: Realistically, most Christians would consider your opposition to the trinity to be a much bigger blasphemy than Nathan's claims about Jesus's space station in hollow Venus. For most of modern history, it would have been the difference between being burned at the stake vs being flogged or tortured with hot irons. Even today, I suspect the exes and TLC crowd would have to admit that you are less Christian in doctrine. If you don't believe Jesus is God you go straight to hell per God's loving followers. Adding a few spaceships and six-fingered aliens into the gospel isn't a serious doctrinal issue by comparison. David Legge Pastor on the 2x2 is a Cult anti-Trinity and Jesus is NOT God sermon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0roC35Mdow&ab_channel=PreachTheWord-DavidLeggeWe must teach the true, and correct the FULL gospel message of Jesus Christ NOT part or half of the gospel. Paul wrote 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
In verse 15 the KJV has Paul telling Timothy to study that he might be approved of by God, a workman (G2040 ergatés) which is a reference back to verses 5 and 6, this word ergatés is elsewhere used as “field workers”, “laborers”, etc., who should not be ashamed, and rightly dividing (G3718 orthotomeō) the word of truth. 1. to cut straight ways A to proceed on straight paths, hold a straight course, equiv. to doing right. 2. to make straight and smooth, to handle aright, to teach the truth directly and correctly.
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Post by intelchips on Jun 29, 2020 14:09:30 GMT -5
These are perilous times. Over the last three years, much of what these old eyes hold dear has been threatened – democracy, civility, truth. Science and reason are in a battle with conjecture and instinct to determine public policy in this time of a pandemic. Partisanship and economic interests are playing their part, too. Meanwhile, misinformation and falsehoods are routine. At a time like this, any voice trying to share information that suggests data over dogma, and fact over fable, is not just optional. It is essential. How can we join together to save our country if only some of us believe in fact while the rest believe in fables?
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2020 14:30:35 GMT -5
These are perilous times. Over the last three years, much of what these old eyes hold dear has been threatened – democracy, civility, truth. Science and reason are in a battle with conjecture and instinct to determine public policy in this time of a pandemic. Partisanship and economic interests are playing their part, too. Meanwhile, misinformation and falsehoods are routine. At a time like this, any voice trying to share information that suggests data over dogma, and fact over fable, is not just optional. It is essential. How can we join together to save our country if only some of us believe in fact while the rest believe in fables? Good post ITC. There's a theory that free speech and democracy would result in the best ideas rising to the top. Let's hope that continues to apply in the long run, but my confidence in that is being shaken. We seem to be repeating the same mistakes we made a century ago. Humanity is in for a rough ride over the next few years.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 29, 2020 14:54:28 GMT -5
These are perilous times. Over the last three years, much of what these old eyes hold dear has been threatened – democracy, civility, truth. Science and reason are in a battle with conjecture and instinct to determine public policy in this time of a pandemic. Partisanship and economic interests are playing their part, too. Meanwhile, misinformation and falsehoods are routine. At a time like this, any voice trying to share information that suggests data over dogma, and fact over fable, is not just optional. It is essential. How can we join together to save our country if only some of us believe in fact while the rest believe in fables? Good post ITC. There's a theory that free speech and democracy would result in the best ideas rising to the top. Let's hope that continues to apply in the long run, but my confidence in that is being shaken. We seem to be repeating the same mistakes we made a century ago. Humanity is in for a rough ride over the next few years. It's also been noted that democracy only survives in decently educated societies. One of our problems in these times is that free speech is being taken over by the anti-science, anti-education, anti-truth tidal wave. Catastrophe may well be what it takes to wake the country up.
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Post by Annan on Jun 29, 2020 15:08:31 GMT -5
**And you, sir, had better be on your knees asking forgiveness. ** I do it all the times. Without Jesus blood and His cleansing I am dead meat. **But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.
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Post by intelchips on Jun 29, 2020 16:10:32 GMT -5
** I do it all the times. Without Jesus blood and His cleansing I am dead meat. **But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.Expanding on my above post and relating to fact vs fable how can we sort fact from fable between walking on water, parting the waters, raising the dead, hollow earth, Jesus inside of Venus, virgins giving birth and the such?
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Post by Annan on Jun 29, 2020 16:39:37 GMT -5
**But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.Expanding on my above post and relating to fact vs fable how can we sort fact from fable between walking on water, parting the waters, raising the dead, hollow earth, Jesus inside of Venus, virgins giving birth and the such? I guess you just have to have an epiphany.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2020 17:00:30 GMT -5
Good post ITC. There's a theory that free speech and democracy would result in the best ideas rising to the top. Let's hope that continues to apply in the long run, but my confidence in that is being shaken. We seem to be repeating the same mistakes we made a century ago. Humanity is in for a rough ride over the next few years. It's also been noted that democracy only survives in decently educated societies. One of our problems in these times is that free speech is being taken over by the anti-science, anti-education, anti-truth tidal wave. Catastrophe may well be what it takes to wake the country up. I was gobsmacked by the anti-science, anti-vax, anti-establishment sentiment on a high-end paying business forum I'm on (US based). This stuff has become a matter of faith, so to question it is seen as an attack on the belief system that means more than anything to a lot of people. My pro-science, pro-evidence views were squashed. Totally shut down. God bless America.
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Post by intelchips on Jun 29, 2020 17:17:39 GMT -5
It's also been noted that democracy only survives in decently educated societies. One of our problems in these times is that free speech is being taken over by the anti-science, anti-education, anti-truth tidal wave. Catastrophe may well be what it takes to wake the country up. I was gobsmacked by the anti-science, anti-vax, anti-establishment sentiment on a high-end paying business forum I'm on (US based). This stuff has become a matter of faith, so to question it is seen as an attack on the belief system that means more than anything to a lot of people. My pro-science, pro-evidence views were squashed. Totally shut down. God bless America. fixit, hurry and watch this before gratu gets in here and obfuscates it beyond understanding. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTj_xoCuhPU
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Post by nathan on Jun 29, 2020 17:43:09 GMT -5
** I do it all the times. Without Jesus blood and His cleansing I am dead meat. **But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2020 17:46:51 GMT -5
I was gobsmacked by the anti-science, anti-vax, anti-establishment sentiment on a high-end paying business forum I'm on (US based). This stuff has become a matter of faith, so to question it is seen as an attack on the belief system that means more than anything to a lot of people. My pro-science, pro-evidence views were squashed. Totally shut down. God bless America. fixit, hurry and watch this before gratu gets in here and obfuscates it beyond understanding. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTj_xoCuhPUVery good. She's on to the root cause of much of the world's problems.
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Post by fixit on Jun 29, 2020 17:48:19 GMT -5
**But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you. Nathan is always right.
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Post by nathan on Jun 29, 2020 17:51:09 GMT -5
** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you. Nathan is always right. *** Almost but NOT always right.
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Post by Annan on Jun 29, 2020 17:52:21 GMT -5
** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you. Nathan is always right. You would think I would have learned that by now.
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Post by Annan on Jun 29, 2020 17:53:40 GMT -5
**But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you. It’s NOT a competition!
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Post by iam on Jun 30, 2020 23:23:07 GMT -5
**But you continue to sin with your posts of name calling, insults, bullying and exposing the supposed sins of others. I don't think it works that way, Nathan. I grew up 2x2. I know your god forgives sin...supposedly; but when one keeps committing the same sin religiously, I don't think it counts.** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you. Ah yes, the old “when you point a finger at someone else there are 3 pointing back at you 2x2 line! What they were trying to convey, Nathan is when YOU point a finger at someone else there are 3 pointing back at YOU. How did you miss that!?
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Post by nathan on Jun 30, 2020 23:30:08 GMT -5
** You and most people are commitng the same sins or worse on TMB. You point one finger at people but 3 fingers are pointing back at you. Ah yes, the old “when you point a finger at someone else there are 3 pointing back at you 2x2 line! What they were trying to convey, Nathan is when YOU point a finger at someone else there are 3 pointing back at YOU. How did you miss that!? I point my finger for others to FOLLOW Jesus Christ New Testament ministry and fellowship like we read in the gospels, the book of Acts of the Holy Spirit and apostles.
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Post by iam on Jun 30, 2020 23:36:49 GMT -5
That someone would take the time to record and post such things is mind boggling. How very christian of you, Nathan. You possess a very ugly, spiteful, vengeful spirit. My opinion, of course. There are People like you denied what you said or posts and want me to PROVE it... There are records to prove you are NOT telling the WHOLE truth.
God and his Venusians Holy angels keep records of what people say and good things that they do and the evil things they do/say for the judgment day. Jesus said by thy words thou shall either be justified or condemned.Sounds like Santa’s elves. You sure you didn’t get the two fables mixed up?
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 30, 2020 23:39:13 GMT -5
There are People like you denied what you said or posts and want me to PROVE it... There are records to prove you are NOT telling the WHOLE truth.
God and his Venusians Holy angels keep records of what people say and good things that they do and the evil things they do/say for the judgment day. Jesus said by thy words thou shall either be justified or condemned. Sounds like Santa’s elves. You sure you didn’t get the two fables mixed up? Don't call him an elf -- it sounds too much like a fairy.
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Post by iam on Jun 30, 2020 23:42:56 GMT -5
Sounds like Santa’s elves. You sure you didn’t get the two fables mixed up? Don't call him an elf -- it sounds too much like a fairy. Oops my bad....although fairies are kinda cute😄
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Post by nathan on Jun 30, 2020 23:44:32 GMT -5
There are People like you denied what you said or posts and want me to PROVE it... There are records to prove you are NOT telling the WHOLE truth.
God and his Venusians Holy angels keep records of what people say and good things that they do and the evil things they do/say for the judgment day. Jesus said by thy words thou shall either be justified or condemned. Sounds like Santa’s elves. You sure you didn’t get the two fables mixed up? It seems you and BobW. have NOT read your Bible, lately. Read Rev. 20:11-15 And I/John saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 30, 2020 23:45:49 GMT -5
Don't call him an elf -- it sounds too much like a fairy. Oops my bad....although fairies are kinda cute😄 Then again, they can hang out in trees.
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Post by iam on Jun 30, 2020 23:46:40 GMT -5
Sounds like Santa’s elves. You sure you didn’t get the two fables mixed up? It seems you and BobW. have NOT your Bible lately. Read Rev. 20:11-15 11 And I/John saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
No I am aware of that I just didn’t realize it was Santa’s.....er, helpers that were doing the recording
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 30, 2020 23:47:12 GMT -5
Sounds like Santa’s elves. You sure you didn’t get the two fables mixed up? It seems you and BobW. have NOT read your Bible, lately. Read Rev. 20:11-15 And I/John saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Wally says all the dead people are going to vote in Pennsylvania.
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Post by iam on Jun 30, 2020 23:47:15 GMT -5
Oops my bad....although fairies are kinda cute😄 Then again, they can hang out in trees. Well those kind can be a nuisance
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Post by nathan on Jun 30, 2020 23:51:33 GMT -5
It seems you and BobW. have NOT your Bible lately. Read Rev. 20:11-15 11 And I/John saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
No I am aware of that I just didn’t realize it was Santa’s.....er, helpers that were doing the recording The angels of God are God's helpers didn't you KNOW that? Why do you get Santa= Satan and God mix up? You are slipping and mix up between Satan/Santa and God and their helpers. The angels of God are keeping tracks and records of many things for the judgment day.... So, people will NOT say to God, "God, I did NOT say that or I did NOT do that!" Well, a rewind of the tapes there's you proof you did that and say that... SEE! it for yourself. "Oppsy! You got me, caught red handed, God."
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Post by iam on Jun 30, 2020 23:56:44 GMT -5
Nathan you are so dedicated to your high calling of converting souls to Venus and you’re really not doing much good with that here and Jesus said if they don’t receive you then move on and try somewhere else. Have you considered tent missions or street preaching? If you honestly care for souls, what about all those souls that are driving through your gas station every day? Do you not care about them? Have you tried going door to door with your very important message? How can you in good conscience allow all those opportunities go by?
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