eurp
Senior Member
Posts: 290
|
Post by eurp on Jul 15, 2006 2:21:37 GMT -5
Seems from reading here that Christianity is different things to different people.
For some its a hobby. Its an interest that they study in an amateur way, pick up and participate at times, and then drop at others. There seems to be many on this board. Question is: Does it mean anything deeper for them?
For some its a Field of Study It something to wrote a thesis about, (thread "What shall I write my thesis about?") or to take courses in (One took a course on Jewish origins of Christianity by Dr xyz) etc. It becomes an obsession, and adherents like this cannot escape the opportunity to debate points of obscure doctrine with anyone that will do so. There's several on this board. Question is, is it only a head knowledge?
To some its an entertainment: Drift on in, watch the fighting lions, the arguing boffins, those that take delight in dropping sarcastic comments (oh what wit)on the ignorant etc. Pity it seems to go no deeper. There's lots on this board.
To some its a life changing birth of Divine control. This sort probably are not on this board.
|
|
|
Post by Rob O on Jul 15, 2006 2:57:37 GMT -5
So that would include you as you are writing here?
But this all commits a fallacy of thinking. It could be more than one of these. For some, and there are a number here....it involves a life-changing series of experiences occuring in relationship with our Creator inducing us to give serious thought to what many things mean - in obedience to what God has asked, that we love Him with all our heart, soul and mind.
|
|
eurp
Senior Member
Posts: 290
|
Post by eurp on Jul 15, 2006 3:01:43 GMT -5
"So that would include you as you are writing here?"
If thats so, I guess it includes both you and I, we're both writing here.
The "fallacy of thinking" is more perhaps a fallacy of reading with a bias. I didn't say that the groups are exclusive. I agree there are no solid boundaries. I'd go further to say the categorisation is incomplete.
You need more troll repellant Rob. You bite on the bait like a barracuda.
|
|
|
Post by Rob O on Jul 15, 2006 3:09:57 GMT -5
So you are admitting to deliberately baiting people?
|
|
eurp
Senior Member
Posts: 290
|
Post by eurp on Jul 15, 2006 5:52:47 GMT -5
"So you are admitting to deliberately baiting people? "
so you are admitting to rising to bait?
|
|
|
Post by Rob O on Jul 15, 2006 6:17:04 GMT -5
Even if that were the case, responding to goading is not the same as doing the goading.
Of course, if you want attempt to initiate a meaningful discussion instead of baiting.....
|
|
eurp
Senior Member
Posts: 290
|
Post by eurp on Jul 15, 2006 6:36:20 GMT -5
Well, I thought I started a meaningful thread, but.....
|
|
|
Post by Rob O on Jul 15, 2006 6:45:18 GMT -5
What sort of meaningful discussion do you hope to initiate by framing the opening post in such a way as to exclude the probability that people who have had life-changing experiences and who take Christianity seriously are active here?
Do you really believe you are in a privileged position to judge the hearts and motivations of other people who post here? You may find more meaningful interaction if you didn't present yourself in such a way. Try taking the time to openly engage others instead of framing discussions in pejorative ways.
|
|
|
Post by Jessi on Jul 15, 2006 7:20:11 GMT -5
Seems from reading here that Christianity is different things to different people. For some its a hobby. Its an interest that they study in an amateur way, pick up and participate at times, and then drop at others. There seems to be many on this board. Question is: Does it mean anything deeper for them? For some its a Field of Study It something to wrote a thesis about, (thread "What shall I write my thesis about?") or to take courses in (One took a course on Jewish origins of Christianity by Dr xyz) etc. It becomes an obsession, and adherents like this cannot escape the opportunity to debate points of obscure doctrine with anyone that will do so. There's several on this board. Question is, is it only a head knowledge? To some its an entertainment: Drift on in, watch the fighting lions, the arguing boffins, those that take delight in dropping sarcastic comments (oh what wit)on the ignorant etc. Pity it seems to go no deeper. There's lots on this board. To some its a life changing birth of Divine control. This sort probably are not on this board. I believe man's wisdom and people purporting to have all the answers--trying to show off their intellect--pervade these boards. It sort of shows why a person is on the boards, just by taking a sample of their latest writings. Some tout their many writings and "works", bragging about the amount of education they have, putting all others on notice that their knowledge is very limited compared to the one with the most education. While the Bible stresses knowledge and wisdom, "man's wisdom" (Is 55:9+, I Cor 3:18+) cannot compare to God's. The gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is simple enough for a child to understand. But some make it difficult, blurring the lines. That's what satan wants. The answers, sadly for these, do not lie in their own intellect, but in the Word of God. The Word IS God. If one does not have His Word, which is Christ, he doesn't have God. The natural man does not understand the Bible because it is spiritually discerned. The only way to get understanding is to pray that the Lord will open the heart. But Christians are still in the flesh. There are some Christians who still fight the fleshly ego and can't give it up to God. There are lessons in humility awaiting all of us who try to do things on our own--or try to glory in ourselves and not give ALL credit to God. Christ's Forever, Jessi
|
|
harry
New Member
Posts: 18
|
Post by harry on Jul 15, 2006 8:10:46 GMT -5
Rob You point out to eurp that he/she should not judge, but you do a lot of that yourself on this board. Is there anything wrong with judging? (I did it above). We all make judgemental statements, judge others, situations etc.
And we SHOULD do so.
|
|
|
Post by Rob O on Jul 15, 2006 8:21:52 GMT -5
I asked Eurp if she was in a privileged position to judge the hearts and motivations of others. Is that what you do when you judge others? I judge beliefs and thoughts. Not hearts. I stand by that. I also objected to the way she framed her post.
|
|
|
Post by Sylvestra on Jul 15, 2006 8:49:06 GMT -5
Seems from reading here that Christianity is different things to different people. For some its a hobby. Its an interest that they study in an amateur way, pick up and participate at times, and then drop at others. There seems to be many on this board. Question is: Does it mean anything deeper for them? For some its a Field of Study It something to wrote a thesis about, (thread "What shall I write my thesis about?") or to take courses in (One took a course on Jewish origins of Christianity by Dr xyz) etc. It becomes an obsession, and adherents like this cannot escape the opportunity to debate points of obscure doctrine with anyone that will do so. There's several on this board. Question is, is it only a head knowledge? To some its an entertainment: Drift on in, watch the fighting lions, the arguing boffins, those that take delight in dropping sarcastic comments (oh what wit)on the ignorant etc. Pity it seems to go no deeper. There's lots on this board. To some its a life changing birth of Divine control. This sort probably are not on this board. Yes, I would say your post does not give enough categories for all of us here! It has been my experience since leaving the meetings (and others have expressed the same), of beginning to take in studying to understand Scriptural things like a person dying of thirst in the desert does to water. It becomes a passion of life and for the first time a peacefulness an realization of the "life-changing birth of Divine control". As a result, yes, it is a passion to study doctrine and learning about the "meat" of the Word (as Paul put it). It is a purpose to discuss and share the things we learn with others who have equal passion for these things. It is one of the greatest disappoints to me to discuss some of the "meat" issues with people who still go to meetings (family and close friends), and their response (yes, every single one of them!) is to say something to the effect that "a little child can understand God's Will and Plan, so I'm not interested in those kinds of things". My son responded once that the things I was talking about weren't in his "need to know" category. If you think this makes me fit into any of your categories, then I'm sorry -- sorry for you to be missing such a great opportunity to challenge your Spirit to grow and your soul to become submissive to it! The reason I use this phrase is because it is an excellent study (you know, one of those discussions we have here that is a place to show off! ) is the difference between soul and spirit, what each is, and which must be submissive to grow in the Lord! So, please enter into some of these discussions with SPIRIT guiding (with soul providing some logic to keep your spirit safe), and you might change your mind about some things! Best regards, Edy
|
|
What are you talking about
Guest
|
Post by What are you talking about on Jul 15, 2006 9:11:22 GMT -5
So what are these "meat" issues you refer to, Edy, I am sure some of us 2x2's can discuss them here with you. True, there are vast numbers of things we don't "need to know." Some are hinted at in the bible. But if they are not directly referred to, then we can assume they are not important to the issues of salvation. p.s. if you want to see how the spirit guides some of the people on this board, see one of Ilylo The Greek's recent cartoon depictions.
|
|