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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 17:11:11 GMT -5
How much are the Christians in the Church you attend involved in making decisions in general? Bare with me if there are any grammatical mistakes,English is my second language and if there needs to be correction feel at liberty to do so since I take no offense, in the contrary I am glad about the English lessons that I am getting on this board  |
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Post by gells on Feb 3, 2016 18:55:12 GMT -5
What kind of decisions to you mean? It would really depend on how widespread those decisions are. Usually the elders make the decisions, but after considering the churches (the people's) questions and input. Also, there are churches that do congregation voting. It really depends on the church that you go to, and sometimes the denominational affiliation.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 4, 2016 1:21:24 GMT -5
How much are the Christians in the Church you attend involved in making decisions in general? Bare with me if there are any grammatical mistakes,English is my second language and if there needs to be correction feel at liberty to do so since I take no offense, in the contrary I am glad about the English lessons that I am getting on this board English can be very confusing: bare = naked bear (noun) = wild animal bear (verb) = endure, hold up, produce a baby  You write English much better than a lot of native speakers. No one would suspect it is not your first language. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 4, 2016 12:15:02 GMT -5
They are critically and eternally involved in the decisions of the church I attend.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 14:52:04 GMT -5
How much are the Christians in the Church you attend involved in making decisions in general? Bare with me if there are any grammatical mistakes,English is my second language and if there needs to be correction feel at liberty to do so since I take no offense, in the contrary I am glad about the English lessons that I am getting on this board English can be very confusing: bare = naked bear (noun) = wild animal bear (verb) = endure, hold up, produce a baby You write English much better than a lot of native speakers. No one would suspect it is not your first language. Thanks Bob, the way it comes out at times can be very amusing and at times embarrassing . I appreciate your correction! Lucky the "spell Check" helps me out too |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 15:00:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the responds. I just wish that the friends in the 2x2 fellowship had more of a input in decisions in general. I cannot think that the apostles had the majority say over how things were done in general in their day. You even read about them putting Christian friends in place to see over some issues as in the case of the widows. Workers and friends should be on the same level and both their input should be valued and taken in consideration.Some elders could be more spiritual then say some workers and there input should not be discredited.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 15:03:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the responds. I just wish that the friends in the 2x2 fellowship had more of a input in decisions in general. I cannot think that the apostles had the majority say over how things were done in general in their day. You even read about them putting Christian friends in place to see over some issues as in the case of the widows. Workers and friends should be on the same level and both their input should be valued and taken in consideration.Some elders could be more spiritual then say some workers and there input should not be discredited.I there is any area's of the fellowship were this is different, I would love to hear bout it,that has not been my experience and I have been born in the fellowship and have been in it for many a moon. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 15:04:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the responds. I just wish that the friends in the 2x2 fellowship had more of a input in decisions in general. I cannot think that the apostles had the majority say over how things were done in general in their day. You even read about them putting Christian friends in place to see over some issues as in the case of the widows. Workers and friends should be on the same level and both their input should be valued and taken in consideration.Some elders could be more spiritual then say some workers and there input should not be discredited.If there is any place were this is different I would love to hear about it,this has not been my experience and I have been born in the fellowship and have been in it for many a moon. |
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Post by Lee on Feb 4, 2016 15:50:00 GMT -5
In general, people prefer a hierarchy to being more real. Its the way of all flesh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 1:08:06 GMT -5
In our church, there is a group/board of elders (of which our "lead pastor" is one) who oversee the decision-making of the church. The church members, however, vote on who those elders are, as well as on the budget...
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Post by rational on Feb 9, 2016 0:06:08 GMT -5
In our church, there is a group/board of elders (of which our "lead pastor" is one) who oversee the decision-making of the church. The church members, however, vote on who those elders are, as well as on the budget... More like a republic? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 14:06:17 GMT -5
I suppose so, yes... We have not been officially involved in the process yet because we are not members... |
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Post by elizabethcoleman on Feb 10, 2016 6:21:59 GMT -5
How much are the Christians in the Church you attend involved in making decisions in general? Bare with me if there are any grammatical mistakes,English is my second language and if there needs to be correction feel at liberty to do so since I take no offense, in the contrary I am glad about the English lessons that I am getting on this board English can be very confusing: bare = naked bear (noun) = wild animal bear (verb) = endure, hold up, produce a baby You write English much better than a lot of native speakers. No one would suspect it is not your first language. Even native speakers can get that one wrong. Like the time my poor hubby emailed our pastor, asking him to "bare with me..."  |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 4, 2016 19:42:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the responds. I just wish that the friends in the 2x2 fellowship had more of a input in decisions in general. I cannot think that the apostles had the majority say over how things were done in general in their day. You even read about them putting Christian friends in place to see over some issues as in the case of the widows. Workers and friends should be on the same level and both their input should be valued and taken in consideration.Some elders could be more spiritual then say some workers and there input should not be discredited. I felt much the same. However experience showed me that church boards can create problems as well. We has a board mtg which was to be induction for me for first time as board member. The mtg started off on an emotional debacle which I felt the pastor could have stopped. All over a pittance raise for the youth pastor. It ended up with a church split, the second one in 15 years. I did not stay at that church though likely return when pastor is replaced. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 4, 2016 19:48:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the responds. I just wish that the friends in the 2x2 fellowship had more of a input in decisions in general. I cannot think that the apostles had the majority say over how things were done in general in their day. You even read about them putting Christian friends in place to see over some issues as in the case of the widows. Workers and friends should be on the same level and both their input should be valued and taken in consideration.Some elders could be more spiritual then say some workers and there input should not be discredited.I there is any area's of the fellowship were this is different, I would love to hear bout it,that has not been my experience and I have been born in the fellowship and have been in it for many a moon. I meant to say that we read of a "James" in Acts who carried a lot of decision power and he wasn't apostle nor of those appointed to care of widows etc. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 5, 2016 0:28:16 GMT -5
I meant to say that we read of a "James" in Acts who carried a lot of decision power and he wasn't apostle nor of those appointed to care of widows etc. James was the spokesman/leader for the apostles after Jesus' crucifixion. |
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Post by breakingfree on Mar 5, 2016 2:51:10 GMT -5
Our church has a board of elder's that meet and make decisions. The church body gets a say on who the elders are. Several times a year we have open meetings where church issues are discussed and all are welcome to attend. Nothing is done "hush hush". Items discussed are published in newsletters and distributed to the church for those who weren't able to attend in person. The leadership is very open to input and opinions of the church body. I'm not even an official member of the church (been attending for several years tho) and my questions and suggestions have been gladly heard.
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Post by faune on Mar 5, 2016 11:41:38 GMT -5
Our church has a board of elder's that meet and make decisions. The church body gets a say on who the elders are. Several times a year we have open meetings where church issues are discussed and all are welcome to attend. Nothing is done "hush hush". Items discussed are published in newsletters and distributed to the church for those who weren't able to attend in person. The leadership is very open to input and opinions of the church body. I'm not even an official member of the church (been attending for several years tho) and my questions and suggestions have been gladly heard. ~ The same exists at my church where transparency is widely practiced and nobody is left uninformed, except by their own choosing. How different from my 30 years within the 2x2's where everything was kept under wraps, including church finances, and continues to this day. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 6, 2016 12:36:48 GMT -5
I meant to say that we read of a "James" in Acts who carried a lot of decision power and he wasn't apostle nor of those appointed to care of widows etc. James was the spokesman/leader for the apostles after Jesus' crucifixion. Appears he got there on his own maybe it was a case of who you know then as it is today |
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 6, 2016 17:40:06 GMT -5
James was the spokesman/leader for the apostles after Jesus' crucifixion. Appears he got there on his own maybe it was a case of who you know then as it is today Who knows at this point? I guess it was whatever happens when the leader fails to name a successor. Also a possibility that the believers is a man of wisdom make a religion out of his teaching once he's gone. |
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Post by rational on Mar 8, 2016 10:09:53 GMT -5
Our church has a board of elder's that meet and make decisions. The church body gets a say on who the elders are. Several times a year we have open meetings where church issues are discussed and all are welcome to attend. Nothing is done "hush hush". Are you certain? I have been on and worked with a number of different types of boards None of them religious) and while the decisions are discussed and voted on in public there is almost always "off the record" discussions involved as the members seek out the opinions of others to secure their support for the public meeting. |
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Post by snooz on Mar 8, 2016 15:39:37 GMT -5
I'm wondering how are the overseer appointed in the Friends and workers ? It seems that the overseers have most of the power inside the movement. Who decided about their nomination ? Can they be removed from their position ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 20:35:54 GMT -5
I'm wondering how are the overseer appointed in the Friends and workers ? It seems that the overseers have most of the power inside the movement. Who decided about their nomination ? Can they be removed from their position ? its to my understanding that other overseers pick overseers. yes they can be removed... |
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Post by breakingfree on Mar 27, 2016 0:41:15 GMT -5
Our church has a board of elder's that meet and make decisions. The church body gets a say on who the elders are. Several times a year we have open meetings where church issues are discussed and all are welcome to attend. Nothing is done "hush hush". Are you certain? I have been on and worked with a number of different types of boards None of them religious) and while the decisions are discussed and voted on in public there is almost always "off the record" discussions involved as the members seek out the opinions of others to secure their support for the public meeting. Rational, Sorry for my late reply. I didn't see this until today. I suppose if there are "off the record" discussions that are private then I wouldn't know. What I know is there haven't been any decisions made of which the congregation isn't privy. We've never been surprised by any decision making....except the decor at holiday times. The woman who leads that task is quite talented and creative. :-) |
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Post by rational on Mar 27, 2016 9:43:16 GMT -5
Are you certain? I have been on and worked with a number of different types of boards None of them religious) and while the decisions are discussed and voted on in public there is almost always "off the record" discussions involved as the members seek out the opinions of others to secure their support for the public meeting. Rational, Sorry for my late reply. I didn't see this until today. I suppose if there are "off the record" discussions that are private then I wouldn't know. What I know is there haven't been any decisions made of which the congregation isn't privy. We've never been surprised by any decision making....except the decor at holiday times. The woman who leads that task is quite talented and creative. :-) Like the smoke filled back rooms at a political convention the decisions that seem to be made by the public have actually been brokered by people in off the record discussions. Harding was a 'dark horse' that was nominated as a candidate mostly because of the decisions made in those back rooms. Pierce and Polk also are examples. Of course, this year might have some surprises as well! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 8:08:37 GMT -5
Denominational churches have their problems also. Make sure your church body is transparent. When those at the top have absolute power, those at the bottom suffer to some extent.
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