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Post by Dubious Disciple (xdc) on Jan 10, 2016 10:53:30 GMT -5
Regardless of what we think happens during an NDE, it's clearly an interesting phenomenon. Given that people of all customs and nationalities and beliefs share these experiences, it begs the question: did religion help form NDE experiences, or did NDE experiences help form religions?
The earliest reference to NDEs I'm aware of is in Plato's Republic. That's the 4th century BC. He describes guides taking a person from darkness to light, a moment of judgment, and the usual feelings of peace and joy and extraordinary beauty and happiness.
I've long wondered if Paul's stoning experience wasn't an NDE. The being of light he saw, he assumed was Jesus, of course. Could anybody in the history of the world be more convinced of a wonderful afterlife floating around in the heavens than Paul? Was anybody ever more motivated to spread compassion?
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Post by Hmmmm on Jan 11, 2016 9:02:39 GMT -5
I think it was .
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Post by xna on Jan 11, 2016 9:32:56 GMT -5
Regardless of what we think happens during an NDE, it's clearly an interesting phenomenon. Given that people of all customs and nationalities and beliefs share these experiences, it begs the question: did religion help form NDE experiences, or did NDE experiences help form religions? The earliest reference to NDEs I'm aware of is in Plato's Republic. That's the 4th century BC. He describes guides taking a person from darkness to light, a moment of judgment, and the usual feelings of peace and joy and extraordinary beauty and happiness. I've long wondered if Paul's stoning experience wasn't an NDE. The being of light he saw, he assumed was Jesus, of course. Could anybody in the history of the world be more convinced of a wonderful afterlife floating around in the heavens than Paul? Was anybody ever more motivated to spread compassion? There is archeological evidence of "religious practices" several hundred thousand years before Plato was born. I would speculate religion came first. But it's another one of those unknowns. |
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Post by bubbles on Jan 11, 2016 11:06:36 GMT -5
Regardless of what we think happens during an NDE, it's clearly an interesting phenomenon. Given that people of all customs and nationalities and beliefs share these experiences, it begs the question: did religion help form NDE experiences, or did NDE experiences help form religions? The earliest reference to NDEs I'm aware of is in Plato's Republic. That's the 4th century BC. He describes guides taking a person from darkness to light, a moment of judgment, and the usual feelings of peace and joy and extraordinary beauty and happiness. I've long wondered if Paul's stoning experience wasn't an NDE. The being of light he saw, he assumed was Jesus, of course. Could anybody in the history of the world be more convinced of a wonderful afterlife floating around in the heavens than Paul? Was anybody ever more motivated to spread compassion? Religion is a result of happenings to the heart. Softening conviction etc. There is something within man that responds. Our bodies still have an essence of mystery relating to who we are. What or who we are connected too. Influenced by.No matter how developed our brain is or knowledgable we are in science and medicine..we dont have full understanding of who we are where we came from where we are going nor understanding and knowledge of our environment /galaxys. One danger I see of being hard nosed and critical of people believing in gods is loosing your humanity. Worshiping a god is not all bad. Pauls experience changed his life for the better. |
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