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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 12, 2018 17:38:15 GMT -5
You didn't answer the question andy ! Do you believe the 2x2 is the only right way, YES OR NO ! “Can the gift be greater than the alter that it’s offered on” 🤷♂️ andy don't you understand the question ? All that is required is either yes or no ? |
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Post by Whois a Jew? on Mar 27, 2018 21:30:50 GMT -5
Who is a Jew: It’s pretty much explained here: youtu.be/dmJH_WDjRsoIt’s quite long, but very well researched, imo. Thanks |
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Post by Dennis Alan Jacobsen on Apr 16, 2018 16:32:44 GMT -5
Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also.
Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence.
Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself.
it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory.
Sincerely,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 17:06:17 GMT -5
Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also. Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence. Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself. it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory. Sincerely, Dennis Jacobsen i did not know there was a written account of what happened i've now read the excerpt cherie posted but as your own account suggests it still leaves some questions but for the sake of peace i'll not comment anymore on your situation regardless if others do...... |
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 4:41:06 GMT -5
Who is a Jew: It’s pretty much explained here: youtu.be/dmJH_WDjRsoIt’s quite long, but very well researched, imo. Thanks So the book of Genesis , is the book of the beginning of mankind, and the beginning of the Melchizedek priesthood, And the beginning of the chosen plan. (there were things before the creation.... such as the domain wherein “G-D” dwells/dwelt. And perhaps (angels /Lucifer )) G-D created animals (and serpents??) and Adam named them. G-D could communicate with Adam and He did. And then G-D created Eve, and Eve “communed “(as per concept...) with the (“Serpent”/Lucifer?). (Immediately the serpent is cast down and not “heard” from again. even Lucifer isn’t around for some period of time Nevertheless , the creation of our “mankind” (singular or plural) is briefly chronologged in Genisis, and left to be continued in the Exodus’s............ hmmmmm, imo |
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 18, 2018 5:11:45 GMT -5
Who is a Jew: It’s pretty much explained here: youtu.be/dmJH_WDjRsoIt’s quite long, but very well researched, imo. Thanks So the book of Genesis , is the book of the beginning of mankind, and the beginning of the Melchizedek priesthood, And the beginning of the chosen plan. (there were things before the creation.... such as the domain wherein “G-D” dwells/dwelt. And perhaps (angels /Lucifer )) G-D created animals (and serpents??) and Adam named them. G-D could communicate with Adam and He did. And then G-D created Eve, and Eve “communed “(as per concept...) with the (“Serpent”/Lucifer?). (Immediately the serpent is cast down and not “heard” from again. even Lucifer isn’t around for some period of time Nevertheless , the creation of our “mankind” (singular or plural) is briefly chronologged in Genisis, and left to be continued in the Exodus’s............ hmmmmm, imo
there are many others you know.
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 7:46:10 GMT -5
color="080b61"] Is Genesis the only mythical account of the beginning of humans?
there are many others you know.
[/font][/quote][ atheism comes from Greek: a (not) Theo (God) the belief in (no God) Is your belief a myth, sweetie....?? |
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 8:21:38 GMT -5
color="080b61"] Is Genesis the only mythical account of the beginning of humans?
there are many others you know.
[/font][/quote][ atheism comes from Greek: a (not) Theo (God) the belief in (no God) Is your belief a myth, sweetie....??[/quote] here is an interpretation of what “no” is...: 😉. youtu.be/mizm3eoxVrAhmmm |
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Post by rational on Apr 18, 2018 8:23:28 GMT -5
Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also. Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence. Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself. it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory. Sincerely, Dennis Jacobsen Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting. Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at? Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence. So sign up - come on back. |
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 8:48:47 GMT -5
Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also. Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence. Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself. it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory. Sincerely, Dennis Jacobsen Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting. Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at? Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence. So sign up - come on back. ha, and why should any believe the myths espoused by Nonbelievers? |
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Post by rational on Apr 18, 2018 13:53:09 GMT -5
Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting. Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at? Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence. So sign up - come on back. ha, and why should any believe the myths espoused by Nonbelievers? In the case of Dennis, perhaps because I believe he is an intelligent person with integrity. Unlike you, he will evaluate supported claims made and is willing to respond to questions with his own supported responses. |
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Post by snow on Apr 18, 2018 15:17:02 GMT -5
Cherie, thank you for posting what you did in the cult thread. Today, years later, I stand by every bit I posted way back then. Workers used Wally’s reasoning regarding Therold’s behavior way back then. He had many who obtained honor and favor through him and his oversight. Once I did also. Actually, I made no accusations for many years against either him or the popular worker given over to homosexuality. Only after they both sought to add to my plight by outright lies did I begin to rethink my silence. Wally, has it not occurred to you that people may know there is no other side to a true account? The problem with untrue accounts are simply that they change as years pass. My account has NOT changed, and will not change throughout eternity. It simply is what it is. My own parents believed Tharold, why should I expect anyone here to believe me in my account here or anywhere since. People who did know of the thruth of my situation have respected my request of them to just let it die, lest they find themselves in the same situation as myself. it has been told to me that I left this forum here over “money.” Totally untrue. I left here over my aging and faulty memory, AND that I believe Psalms One gave direction to do so. I miss those who I still consider my friends, including any atheists, and others, to whom I will always owe apology for my failing memory. Sincerely, Dennis Jacobsen Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting. Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at? Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence. So sign up - come on back. I second that Rational. Dennis come on back. My memory is degrading all the time and it's very frustrating. But everyone understands that it happens as we age and sometimes when we're younger too. It's not a fault, it simply is how life goes. We would much rather have you back then have you worry about not remembering something. I have always known if I forget something, someone will remind me!  |
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 18:18:20 GMT -5
ha, and why should any believe the myths espoused by Nonbelievers? In the case of Dennis, perhaps because I believe he is an intelligent person with integrity. Unlike you, he will evaluate supported claims made and is willing to respond to questions with his own supported responses. Interesting. Yet , even with such kind words , the proof is quite plain to see, Nevertheless, you have no basis for claiming that a(theism) is anything but a myth, and that is/has been documented on my previous several analogies, but it is certainly nice to see an acclaimed lawyer (Mark Lanier) Weigh in on the scale of balance , with much prejudice and integrity. He read all the books written on the subject, and as A good logician/lawyer knows a poorly defended concept/hypothesis when it is presented in court. Thank you for responding, I may bump a past original post! 🙂 |
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Post by Roselyn T on Apr 18, 2018 18:44:30 GMT -5
Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting. Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at? Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence. So sign up - come on back. I second that Rational. Dennis come on back. My memory is degrading all the time and it's very frustrating. But everyone understands that it happens as we age and sometimes when we're younger too. It's not a fault, it simply is how life goes. We would much rather have you back then have you worry about not remembering something. I have always known if I forget something, someone will remind me! I agree with both rational and snow, we are missing you Dennis. |
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Post by howitis on Apr 18, 2018 18:51:57 GMT -5
Dear Dennis,
Thank you for returning, even as a guest, at least we know you are still ok.
It is a very feeble society that cannot withstand the forgetfulness of another member. I would hope that all on this forum are able to rise above such feebleness and welcome you back with open arms and hearts.
We miss you xxx
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 18, 2018 19:50:51 GMT -5
Hey Dennis! Glad to see you are back and posting. Why not rejoin? After all, you and I have been poking at one another since the Common Ground Forum! Who better than you for me to poke at? Memories fail. Many studies have been done to show the malleability of even the memories that we cling to with the most conviction. I recently had the opportunity to revisit a place from my past and had the difficult task of having my memory confronted with hard physical evidence. So sign up - come on back. ha, and why should any believe the myths espoused by Nonbelievers?
How dare you talk like that about someone you don't even know!
I knew that you were ignorant of a lot of things but now you have also revealed your lack of character as well!
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 20:39:50 GMT -5
[quote author=" rational" source="/post/784110. Interesting. Yet , even with such kind words , the proof is quite plain to see, Nevertheless, you have no basis for claiming that a(theism) is anything but a myth, and that is/has been documented on my previous several analogies, but it is certainly nice to see an acclaimed lawyer (Mark Lanier) Weigh in on the scale of balance , with much prejudice and integrity. He read all the books written on the subject, and as A good logician/lawyer knows a poorly defended concept/hypothesis when it is presented in court. Thank you for responding, I may bump a past original post! 🙂[/quote][ we still believe a(theism) is a myth, and I am Confident that Dennis J also knows the fallacy of its precepts! Thank you , kindly |
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 18, 2018 21:18:57 GMT -5
[quote author=" rational " source="/post/784110. Nevertheless, you have no basis for claiming that a(theism) is anything but a myth, and that is/has been documented on my previous several analogies, acclaimed lawyer (Mark Lanier) Weigh in on the scale of balance , with much prejudice and integrity. He read all the books written on the subject, and as A good logician/lawyer knows a poorly defended concept/hypothesis when it is presented in court. Thank you for responding,
Myths proclaim something to be true.
Does Atheism claim to something to be true?
No, Atheism simply states that there is NO proof of the supernatural & paranormal things that "theists" claim to be true.
Also Why should it make any difference if someone is an "acclaimed lawyer?" Or that he has "read all the books written on the subject?"
When it comes to theism, -he is no longer an attorney.
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 22:15:45 GMT -5
It seems you would accept Creation , if it could be
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Thus , strictly speaking you are more or less an agnostic,
(One that is waiting for proof).
So that means , there is hope , a lot of hope . 🙂
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Post by friend on Apr 18, 2018 22:21:42 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 18, 2018 22:25:08 GMT -5
It seems you would accept Creation , if it could be proven. Thus , strictly speaking you are more or less an agnostic, (One that is waiting for proof). So that means , there is hope , a lot of hope . 🙂
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Post by rational on Apr 19, 2018 7:24:02 GMT -5
It seems you would accept Creation , if it could be proven. Thus , strictly speaking you are more or less an agnostic, (One that is waiting for proof). So that means , there is hope , a lot of hope . 🙂 You can prattle on for as long as you wish. I do not believe in paranormal entities. God, faeries, elves, trolls, etc all included. As I have said, I try to base my beliefs on verifiable facts. As it stands, there are no verifiable facts to support the existence of paranormal entities, the ones I mentioned as well as all others, so I do not believe they exist. I do not question their existence. I am not agnostic in that regard. If, however, verifiable facts are presented I will evaluate them in regards to my beliefs and make the changes needed to accommodate the new data. So you can go on and on about what you feel I believe but unless I am very bored you will not be getting an reply. |
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Post by Dennis J on Apr 19, 2018 22:53:59 GMT -5
Hello, my real name is Dennis Jacobsen. I have returned because of the kindnesses of others, and people should already know whom they are. Thank you.
Smile! it does not mean I agree with anyone’s atheism, just that like my Lord, I let people believe what they will, and expect the same in return.
I am still shook up over the aspect of my complete memory failure here. Such is part of my life.
My neighbor lady told Katie some real whoppers about me today. Naturally Katie told me. Unbelievable, and totally impossible. Had it occurred a couple of months earlier... but it really shook me up. Supposedly Ylva’s 4 sisters related the wild story to her while standing in our combined driveway in 1989. Problem? Ylva had NO sisters and neither my neighbor nor we were even living here then! I may be 75 years old, but I could not have forgotten THAT! The account was so preposterous Katie knew it was untrue!
Anyway, I am who I am, and, yes, I am ashamed of anything I ought to be that I am not.
No, Wally, not going to relate my neighbors wild accusations! Guess that must make them believable for some! Huge sigh!
Not doing so well these days, but could always be worse! Nearly totally deaf, the VA just gave me improved hearing aids today. Very thankful for them. Wanting to operate our new 50 hp diesel lawnmower for the first time tomorrow. Maybe just wishful desires...
S’ all.
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Post by howitis on Apr 19, 2018 23:01:23 GMT -5
Hello, my real name is Dennis Jacobsen. I have returned because of the kindnesses of others, and people should already know whom they are. Thank you. Smile! it does not mean I agree with anyone’s atheism, just that like my Lord, I let people believe what they will, and expect the same in return. I am still shook up over the aspect of my complete memory failure here. Such is part of my life. My neighbor lady told Katie some real whoppers about me today. Naturally Katie told me. Unbelievable, and totally impossible. Had it occurred a couple of months earlier... but it really shook me up. Supposedly Ylva’s 4 sisters related the wild story to her while standing in our combined driveway in 1989. Problem? Ylva had NO sisters and neither my neighbor nor we were even living here then! I may be 75 years old, but I could not have forgotten THAT! The account was so preposterous Katie knew it was untrue! Anyway, I am who I am, and, yes, I am ashamed of anything I ought to be that I am not. No, Wally, not going to relate my neighbors wild accusations! Guess that must make them believable for some! Huge sigh! Not doing so well these days, but could always be worse! Nearly totally deaf, the VA just gave me improved hearing aids today. Very thankful for them. Wanting to operate our new 50 hp diesel lawnmower for the first time tomorrow. Maybe just wishful desires... S’ all. Welcome back Dennis, if it is truly you, none of us are perfect and all are just that little closer to the finishing line than before. Take care my friend infirmities and all xxx |
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Post by friend on Apr 20, 2018 2:51:12 GMT -5
It seems you would accept Creation , if it could be proven. Thus , strictly speaking you are more or less an agnostic, (One that is waiting for proof). So that means , there is hope , a lot of hope . 🙂
I am an atheist.
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Post by friend on Apr 20, 2018 3:00:18 GMT -5
Hello, my real name is Dennis Jacobsen. I have returned because of the kindnesses of others, and people should already know whom they are. Thank you. Smile! it does not mean I agree with anyone’s atheism, just that like my Lord, I let people believe what they will, and expect the same in return. I am still shook up over the aspect of my complete memory failure here. Such is part of my life. My neighbor lady told Katie some real whoppers about me today. Naturally Katie told me. Unbelievable, and totally impossible. Had it occurred a couple of months earlier... but it really shook me up. Supposedly Ylva’s 4 sisters related the wild story to her while standing in our combined driveway in 1989. Problem? Ylva had NO sisters and neither my neighbor nor we were even living here then! I may be 75 years old, but I could not have forgotten THAT! The account was so preposterous Katie knew it was untrue! Anyway, I am who I am, and, yes, I am ashamed of anything I ought to be that I am not. No, Wally, not going to relate my neighbors wild accusations! Guess that must make them believable for some! Huge sigh! Not doing so well these days, but could always be worse! Nearly totally deaf, the VA just gave me improved hearing aids today. Very thankful for them. Wanting to operate our new 50 hp diesel lawnmower for the first time tomorrow. Maybe just wishful desires... S’ all. nice to hear your progress, it’s part of doing our best, Thanks for sharing your experiences ! Take care |
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 20, 2018 3:18:13 GMT -5
Please do not try to tell me what I am.
I am an atheist.
There is no way that I can ever "accept Christian's idea of Creation." Not even if our Creator proves He did it ? Hmmm.....🌛. I see it , therefore it is .
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Post by friend on Apr 20, 2018 3:24:37 GMT -5
So the book of Genesis , is the book of the beginning of mankind, and the beginning of the Melchizedek priesthood, And the beginning of the chosen plan. (there were things before the creation.... such as the domain wherein “G-D” dwells/dwelt. And perhaps (angels /Lucifer )) G-D created animals (and serpents??) and Adam named them. G-D could communicate with Adam and He did. And then G-D created Eve, and Eve “communed “(as per concept...) with the (“Serpent”/Lucifer?). (Immediately the serpent is cast down and not “heard” from again. even Lucifer isn’t around for some period of time Nevertheless , the creation of our “mankind” (singular or plural) is briefly chronologged in Genisis, and left to be continued in the Exodus’s............ hmmmmm, imo
there are many others you know.
hmmm. the truth is that “atheism” is the only mythical account of the beginning of mankind. The truth is the biblical account that has been so graciously preserved through the millinials .... Aren’t you glad to know that. 🙂 |
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