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Post by So on Nov 8, 2017 10:14:15 GMT -5
Here’s is a fresh testimonial ... Dan Peer, formerly singer with “America” Wrote many songs during his abbreviated lifetime
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 8, 2017 16:27:35 GMT -5
Here’s is a fresh testimonial ... Dan Peer, formerly singer with “America” Wrote many songs during his abbreviated lifetime FRESH? - perhaps to him it is "fresh" but actually pretty much the same old, same old.
Want to hear testimonies of some theists who saw the light and have now added a "A" to theist? (Got it? A-theist)
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Post by rational on Nov 8, 2017 16:31:09 GMT -5
Here’s is a fresh testimonial ... Dan Peer, formerly singer with “America” Wrote many songs during his abbreviated lifetime That would be Dan Peek.
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Post by So on Nov 8, 2017 18:37:18 GMT -5
Here’s is a fresh testimonial ... Dan Peer, formerly singer with “America” Wrote many songs during his abbreviated lifetime That would be Dan Peek. Glad you noticed, his testimony mirrors my mothers In respect to the hymn, “ if all things were mine, but not the Saviour...” ( the huge emptiness of carnal world, full of “ promises” , Full of disappointments 🤕 ). That is my experience also
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 8, 2017 20:43:43 GMT -5
Glad you noticed, his testimony mirrors my mothers In respect to the hymn, “ if all things were mine, but not the Saviour...” ( the huge emptiness of carnal world, full of “ promises” , Full of disappointments 🤕 ). That is my experience also Really?
So,- so, -you say both you and your mother's testimony "mirrored" Dan Peeks's testimony? Peek said he did the whole "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style, -"all the carnal stuff."
Do you mean that YOUR mother as well as YOURSELF lived that kind of life style, - a "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style? If you say you did, -I have to take your word as true but are you sure that your mother also lived that kind of life?
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Post by So on Nov 9, 2017 2:09:46 GMT -5
Hmm, it also appears to me , that the testimony of Dan, mirrors the testimony of King Solomon , who could have Anything he wanted.
Their testimonies mirrored one another, but there Life experiences varied greatly .
Likewise: “ all materialistic living “ becomes a vanity? , A “vexation of spirit” , unable to bring happiness To its purposes, in my opinions ( and others , not limited To those identified herein) ,
🙂
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 9, 2017 2:50:40 GMT -5
Hmm, it also appears to me , that the testimony of Dan, mirrors the testimony of King Solomon , who could have Anything he wanted. Their testimonies mirrored one another, but there Life experiences varied greatly . Likewise: “ all materialistic living “ becomes a vanity? , A “vexation of spirit” , unable to bring happiness To its purposes, in my opinions ( and others , not limited To those identified herein) , 🙂 You did NOT answer 'my questions So!
So, so -I repeat:
IF both you and your mother's testimony "mirrored" Dan Peeks's testimony? (Peek said he did the whole "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style, -"all the carnal stuff.")
Do you mean that YOUR mother as well as YOURSELF lived that kind of life style, - a "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style? If you say you did, -I have to take your word as true but are you sure that your mother also lived that kind of life?
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Post by So on Nov 9, 2017 3:38:17 GMT -5
Here is a story about a father/son relationship, performed By Harry C , in the hope that he, (Harry C ) would Not let anything get in the way of his desire to be A “good parent”. 5 children and a widowed wife left behind, Harry was Killed In a freeway accident in New York at the age of 38 .....😢. . youtu.be/etundhQa724.
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Post by So on Nov 9, 2017 8:24:48 GMT -5
Hmm, it also appears to me , that the testimony of Dan, mirrors the testimony of King Solomon , who could have Anything he wanted. “OUR “ testimonies mirrored one another, but “OUR” Life “”experiences varied greatly “”. Likewise: “ all materialistic living “ becomes a vanity? , A “vexation of spirit” , unable to bring happiness To its purposes, in my opinions ( and others , not limited To those persons , so identified herein) , 🙂 [ Edited version. 🤔🙂
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Post by rational on Nov 9, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -5
Here is a story about a father/son relationship, performed By Harry C , in the hope that he, (Harry C ) would Not let anything get in the way of his desire to be A “good parent”. 5 children and a widowed wife left behind, Harry was Killed In a freeway accident in New York at the age of 38 .....😢. . youtu.be/etundhQa724. Your inability to answer questions asked might lead one to the conclusion that you do not have the answers. Maybe what would be interesting would be to start a discussion with a narrow focus. One specific question per post then responded to with an answer to the specific question followed by a single question related to the same topic. You up for that?
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Post by So on Nov 9, 2017 9:55:08 GMT -5
Here is a story about a father/son relationship, performed By Harry C , in the hope that he, (Harry C ) would Not let anything get in the way of his desire to be A “good parent”. 5 children and a widowed wife left behind, Harry was Killed In a freeway accident in New York at the age of 38 .....😢. . youtu.be/etundhQa724. Your inability to answer questions asked might lead one to the conclusion that you do not have the answers. Maybe what would be interesting would be to start a discussion with a narrow focus. One specific question per post then responded to with an answer to the specific question followed by a single question related to the same topic. You up for that? [br Proceed
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Post by So on Nov 9, 2017 23:32:38 GMT -5
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Post by So on Nov 10, 2017 6:52:33 GMT -5
Hmm, it also appears to me , that the testimony of Dan, mirrors the testimony of King Solomon , who could have Anything he wanted. Their testimonies mirrored one another, but there Life experiences varied greatly . Likewise: “ all materialistic living “ becomes a vanity? , A “vexation of spirit” , unable to bring happiness To its purposes, in my opinions ( and others , not limited To those identified herein) , 🙂 You did NOT answer 'my questions So!
So, so -I repeat:
IF both you and your mother's testimony "mirrored" Dan Peeks's testimony? (Peek said he did the whole "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style, -"all the carnal stuff.")
Do you mean that YOUR mother as well as YOURSELF lived that kind of life style, - a "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style? If you say you did, -I have to take your word as true but are you sure that your mother also lived that kind of life? Making statements such as “could have whatever “he” wanted, Are more a reflection of a particular state of thinking, NOT a valid position that can be easily proven to Be erroneous. The thought of “ having everything “i “ want , could also reflect a condition of being content with limiting what I want with what I have. That said, we can respectfully understand that even If we can think material things as simple or as Overwhelming as can be considered possible ( as the thought (if all things were mine, but not the Saviour) ), have been extrapolated to see the patern inherent to Materialistic life, mainly, that many people see it as a “vexation” , of spirit, as Solomon so eloquently examined in Ecclesiastes. Cheers ✌️
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Post by So on Nov 10, 2017 7:16:11 GMT -5
In my opinion, Dan’s reflection on having the “ all things evil?”
Can be broken down , in my case, to (yes) at times in injury conditions, I wanted a prescription pain Med, )which in most times , for me anyways), aren’t prescribed due to their nature of being extremely addictive .
Yes, sometimes what I want(ed) was not good for me, and thankfully I wasn’t tempted to achieve them in unlawful mannerisms. I accepted the will of the doctor
And eventually the conflict subsided , between what I wanted and what was good to prescribe. ✌️
Likewise, “other vices “ too, are greatly exaggerated, ( a favorite expression of mine)
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Post by So on Nov 10, 2017 7:26:21 GMT -5
That being said, I am equally certain that there are Far more “ temptations , that begin as simple needs, and soon the adequacy of simple clothing, food, entertainment, housing, cars, planes, boats, guns. toys, can enslave one into the mentality that these materials will give us “ happiness” , when in reality, we become enslaved/entrapped by them ,
And as Dan Peek said, he reached the point of disappointment in that lifestyle, and made a choice to give it all up. ( and set new priorities)
Cheers ✌️
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 11, 2017 3:09:14 GMT -5
You did NOT answer 'my questions So!
So, so -I repeat:
IF both you and your mother's testimony "mirrored" Dan Peeks's testimony? (Peek said he did the whole "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style, -"all the carnal stuff.")
Do you mean that YOUR mother as well as YOURSELF lived that kind of life style, - a "drugs, sex, rock & roll" life style? If you say you did, -I have to take your word as true but are you sure that your mother also lived that kind of life? Making statements such as “could have whatever “he” wanted, Are more a reflection of a particular state of thinking, NOT a valid position that can be easily proven to Be erroneous. The thought of “ having everything “i “ want , could also reflect a condition of being content with limiting what I want with what I have. That said, we can respectfully understand that even If we can think material things as simple or as Overwhelming as can be considered possible ( as the thought (if all things were mine, but not the Saviour) ), have been extrapolated to see the patern inherent to Materialistic life, mainly, that many people see it as a “vexation” , of spirit, as Solomon so eloquently examined in Ecclesiastes. Cheers ✌️ Deflecting away from answering the question once again. But OK, -let's just say that it WAS that part of Dan Peeks' experience where he said he could have had "everything that you wanted." Is that what you meant about the experiences of both you and your mother that you were in the in the position where you could have had "everything that you wanted?"
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Post by So on Nov 11, 2017 16:06:26 GMT -5
Dr Carl Werner’s research video: At the 12 minute mark is where he discribes finding All the fossils in the same formation. 🙂 It is a poorly documented video expressing the beliefs of a creationist who failed to realize that even the existing creationist sites will not make such an easily disproved claim. [ Oh, excuse me? Carl Werner’s evidence confirms you are mistaken . Must be evolutionary propaganda . 😉 👍
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Post by So on Nov 11, 2017 19:46:08 GMT -5
Making statements such as “could have whatever “he” wanted, Are more a reflection of a particular state of thinking, NOT a valid position that can be easily proven to Be erroneous. The thought of “ having everything “i “ want , could also reflect a condition of being content with limiting what I want with what I have. That said, we can respectfully understand that even If we can think material things as simple or as Overwhelming as can be considered possible ( as the thought (if all things were mine, but not the Saviour) ), have been extrapolated to see the patern inherent to Materialistic life, mainly, that many people see it as a “vexation” , of spirit, as Solomon so eloquently examined in Ecclesiastes. Cheers ✌️ Deflecting away from answering the question once again. But OK, -let's just say that it WAS that part of Dan Peeks' experience where he said he could have had "everything that you wanted." Is that what you meant about the experiences of both you and your mother that you were in the in the position where you could have had "everything that you wanted?" My mother was raised “ like a lost and searching Hebrew” God fearing but not attached to any “group”. She didn’t go into details of such details , yet she found Profound emptiness in the “ pleasures/partys “ that we’re Thought to bring a measure of carnal happiness... And she would tell that she often cried herself to sleep. Knowing it did not Bring happiness nor satisfaction... Her testimony , after she realized this , was material things Cannot satisfy her heart/compassion . We all know this is true, but everyone does not readily confess it. ✌️
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Post by snow on Nov 12, 2017 14:18:10 GMT -5
I think it all depends what you do with the material things you have, or do. If I was just out there trying to have fun it would lose it's gloss pretty quickly. I find life is to be lived, have all the fun you can have but at the same time do things with substance. If you love skiing for example you can do what you enjoy and help others at the same time. Teach kids to ski. I find the most satisfying thing about having a material world to choose from is that I get to choose what that is. I can help others, I can do that and still do what I love, what is fun. Why does religion always seem to mean either or? There is nothing that god offers to me that can't be found in being helpful to others while at the same time enjoying the riches of the world. Think about it. If God made this world, made people to have an intellect to invent, then why do you think he would be happy with theists that insist that we need to deny that same world? He makes it and people are trying to not live in it and get into another world instead. Makes no sense at all to me.
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Post by So on Nov 15, 2017 1:02:10 GMT -5
Deflecting away from answering the question once again. But OK, -let's just say that it WAS that part of Dan Peeks' experience where he said he could have had "everything that you wanted." Is that what you meant about the experiences of both you and your mother that you were in the in the position where you could have had "everything that you wanted?" My mother was raised “ like a lost and searching Hebrew” God fearing but not attached to any “group”. She didn’t go into details of such details , yet she found Profound emptiness in the “ pleasures/partys “ that we’re Thought to bring a measure of carnal happiness... And she would tell that she often cried herself to sleep. Knowing it did not Bring happiness nor satisfaction... Her testimony , after she realized this , was material things Cannot satisfy her heart/compassion . We all know this is true, but everyone does not readily confess it. ✌️ [ I believe my mother found a treasure that money Cannot buy, priceless. 🙂
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Post by Si on Nov 15, 2017 1:18:58 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 15, 2017 1:26:07 GMT -5
My mother was raised “ like a lost and searching Hebrew” God fearing but not attached to any “group”. She didn’t go into details of such details , yet she found Profound emptiness in the “ pleasures/partys “ that we’re Thought to bring a measure of carnal happiness... And she would tell that she often cried herself to sleep. Knowing it did not Bring happiness nor satisfaction... Her testimony , after she realized this , was material things Cannot satisfy her heart/compassion . We all know this is true, but everyone does not readily confess it. ✌️ [ I believe my mother found a treasure that money Cannot buy, priceless. 🙂 My mother was raised “ like a lost and searching Hebrew” God fearing but not attached to any “group”. She didn’t go into details of such details , yet she found Profound emptiness in the “ pleasures/partys “ that we’re Thought to bring a measure of carnal happiness... And she would tell that she often cried herself to sleep. Knowing it did not Bring happiness nor satisfaction... Her testimony , after she realized this , was material things Cannot satisfy her heart/compassion . We all know this is true, but everyone does not readily confess it. ✌️ [ I believe my mother found a treasure that money Cannot buy, priceless. 🙂 My mother was raised “ like a lost and searching Hebrew” God fearing but not attached to any “group”. She didn’t go into details of such details , yet she found Profound emptiness in the “ pleasures/partys “ that we’re Thought to bring a measure of carnal happiness... And she would tell that she often cried herself to sleep. Knowing it did not Bring happiness nor satisfaction... Her testimony , after she realized this , was material things Cannot satisfy her heart/compassion . We all know this is true, but everyone does not readily confess it. ✌️ I believe my mother found a treasure that money Cannot buy, priceless. 🙂 I don't doubt that she did, -for her.
But that doesn't mean what she found is the ONLY way to find the fulfillment, contentment and happiness that make living in this world worthwhile.
PS:
You still didn't answer my question concerning what the position you and your mother were in where you could have had "everything that you wanted?"
Are you million or billionaires, that you can buy anything you want?
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Post by rational on Nov 15, 2017 10:49:41 GMT -5
It is a poorly documented video expressing the beliefs of a creationist who failed to realize that even the existing creationist sites will not make such an easily disproved claim. [ Oh, excuse me? Carl Werner’s evidence confirms you are mistaken . Must be evolutionary propaganda . 😉 👍 From the video: ... and I questioned, when this all started, is this one of these big finds, like when we discovered that the Earth wasn't flat and it was round, you know, 100 or so years ago? Or when Galileo and Copernicus put together that the Earth wasn't the center of a planetary system? Is this one of those big blunders that I've stumbled upon that the whole paradigm is gonna have to shift because evolution doesn't work out, or do I just not understand it.Two points from this single quote reveal the lack of Carl's knowledge of basic science. It was discovered about 100 years ago that the earth was not flat? Aristotle had determined the earth spherical in shape hundreds of years before Jesus and Eratosthenes had made a fairly accurate calculation of the diameter. And then there is the last phrase in the quote: "...or do I just not understand it."There is the answer. He traveled looking at fossil sites only to state: I wasn't done because and then you realize you go to the dig sites you see very few fossils 'cuz it takes a while to get them out. And when he didn't do any of his own research he used the research done by others but because of his lack of understanding of this field just distorted the research to match the message he wanted to deliver. If he actually had supportable evidence why do you suppose it was not reported in a peer reviewed journal rather than in books and videos that are sold? Because he had no research to present. His goal is to separate the creation believers from their money.
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Post by Commonman on Nov 16, 2017 0:25:07 GMT -5
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Post by Commonman on Nov 16, 2017 1:17:20 GMT -5
I like dr Carl Werner’s web:
Evolution : the grand experiment
Carl has great reasons for his beliefs
And from my analysis , he is making a valiant Effort to reach and teach as many people as He can , with basing all on his clear and unbiased Studies
He began his research , to prove that evolution was Viable.
His conclusion after a 14 year travel/study is Presented in his body of analysis that he Demonstrated : Evolution has been a grand Experiment
In his book he avoids any implications to “theological Beliefs” , in order to appeal to people reading for
It’s strict science,
His position in not engaging with existing”creation sites” Is likely why they tend to leave off his analysis , yet It is vastly more technological endeavor , with Much respect given to existing theories.
Hmmm, “grand experiment?” It shouldn’t scare you away
🙂👍
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2017 3:04:08 GMT -5
I like dr Carl Werner’s web: Evolution : the grand experiment Carl has great reasons for his beliefs And from my analysis , he is making a valiant Effort to reach and teach as many people as He can , with basing all on his clear and unbiased Studies He began his research , to prove that evolution was Viable. His conclusion after a 14 year travel/study is Presented in his body of analysis that he Demonstrated : Evolution has been a grand Experiment In his book he avoids any implications to “theological Beliefs” , in order to appeal to people reading for It’s strict science, His position in not engaging with existing”creation sites” Is likely why they tend to leave off his analysis , yet It is vastly more technological endeavor , with Much respect given to existing theories. Hmmm, “grand experiment?” It shouldn’t scare you away 🙂👍 What do you mean that Carl Werner's "position in not engaging with existing ”creation sites” and avoids any implications to “theological Beliefs” ?
He is listed twice in - Creation Ministries International
creation.com/carl-werner
Dr Carl Werner - Creation Ministries International
PS: I am smelling a mouse about your site, Commonman phew! Not only are you mimicking SO, -you use the same emoticons . ( 🙂👍)
I am of the opinion that you and SO are probably the same person!
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Post by So on Nov 16, 2017 4:02:45 GMT -5
What do you mean that Carl Werner's "position in not engaging with existing ”creation sites” and avoids any implications to “theological Beliefs” ?
He is listed twice in - Creation Ministries International
creation.com/carl-werner
Dr Carl Werner - Creation Ministries International
PS: I am smelling a mouse about your site, Commonman phew! Not only are you mimicking SO, -you use the same emoticons . ( 🙂👍)
I am of the opinion that you and SO are probably the same person!
So is my middle name😉. This post was addressed to rational. He said ( I can repost it, ) That “ the creation sites ignores Dr Carl Werner?” I didn’t know that. But you say they don’t? Who am I to know ? Dr Carl W , is probably the easiest and congenial Person a person could have as a “instructor” , too bad he had to spend Most of his workday as ER medical Dr. 🙂
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Post by Commonman on Nov 16, 2017 4:22:18 GMT -5
If you watch any of his (grand design) series of videos He (Carl) avoids mentioning certain concepts ( mainly , any mention Of (G) (O) (D) .,,.. in order to keep the analysis free of Prejudging the “experiment” as he refers to evolution( (The grand experiment) , which he was initially attempting To verify it , but came to the conclusion that in reality, it Has bbeen a “grand” experiment , and too much Erroneous “and poor evidence”,
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