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Post by rational on Jan 8, 2016 17:21:26 GMT -5
The original comments were about people changing for the better. Instead of discussing that you predictably stepped sideways to try and discuss pedophiles a topic you seem to be more comfortable with. When the tumor was removed from the brain the person changed from being a pedophile to being a normal human being. This change would generally be considered a change for the better. I didn't say you did. |
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Post by bubbles on Jan 9, 2016 11:04:42 GMT -5
Ratz
Are you implying that the vast amount of pedophiles on this planet all have tumors?
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Post by rational on Jan 9, 2016 15:00:13 GMT -5
Ratz Are you implying that the vast amount of pedophiles on this planet all have tumors? I am implying no such thing. I don't know what causes a person to become a pedophile but then neither do you. Some evidence points to it being genetic and other research can demonstrate how anyone, even you, could suddenly have a great attraction to having sex with children through a change in their brain. I am not offering this as an excuse but as something to think about before rendering judgment on people. The assumption is made that it is within the offenders control. That the person has somehow chosen to attack children and should therefore be punished for their actions. Yet it has been demonstrated that at times people become pedophiles through no fault of their own and entirely beyond their control. The same is true for many disorders. |
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Post by Hmmmm on Jan 11, 2016 9:16:37 GMT -5
Just wondering...
Why is this disorder exclusively a
disorder that affects the male??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 11:44:31 GMT -5
Just wondering... Why is this disorder exclusively a disorder that affects the male?? that's not entirely true there are women that have had sex with children.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:40:27 GMT -5
Just wondering... Why is this disorder exclusively a disorder that affects the male?? that's not entirely true there are women that have had sex with children.... I agree, maybe they do not generate the same amount of publicity as the males. There have been cases in schools where female teachers have gotten into serious trouble for sexually abusing pupils. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:49:31 GMT -5
Ratz Are you implying that the vast amount of pedophiles on this planet all have tumors? I am implying no such thing. I don't know what causes a person to become a pedophile but then neither do you. Some evidence points to it being genetic and other research can demonstrate how anyone, even you, could suddenly have a great attraction to having sex with children through a change in their brain. I am not offering this as an excuse but as something to think about before rendering judgment on people. The assumption is made that it is within the offenders control. That the person has somehow chosen to attack children and should therefore be punished for their actions. Yet it has been demonstrated that at times people become pedophiles through no fault of their own and entirely beyond their control. The same is true for many disorders. Records have shown that some children who had been groomed and abused, themselves turn ot to be abusers in their adulthood, this seems to suggest that it can be learnt behavoiur. |
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Post by rational on Jan 12, 2016 10:14:40 GMT -5
Records have shown that some children who had been groomed and abused, themselves turn ot to be abusers in their adulthood, this seems to suggest that it can be learnt behavoiur. I don't believe that the rate of abuse is significantly higher among those who who are pedophiles than among the population in general. Do you have a reference? There may well be other factors. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 11:19:58 GMT -5
Records have shown that some children who had been groomed and abused, themselves turn ot to be abusers in their adulthood, this seems to suggest that it can be learnt behavoiur. I don't believe that the rate of abuse is significantly higher among those who who are pedophiles than among the population in general. Do you have a reference? There may well be other factors.No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting. |
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Post by rational on Jan 12, 2016 13:31:36 GMT -5
I don't believe that the rate of abuse is significantly higher among those who who are pedophiles than among the population in general. Do you have a reference? There may well be other factors.No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting. I thought it implied that in these cases of CSA it is not always the sexual assult itself that is the issue for longterm problems but the often dysfunctional family setting where it takes place. Many of the stories told here point to that fact - reports of sexual abuse that are ignored or not believed. The most blatant one was the story related by JEAN. It always seemed to me that the sexual abuse by IH was only one of many issues. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 13:51:14 GMT -5
No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting. I thought it implied that in these cases of CSA it is not always the sexual assult itself that is the issue for longterm problems but the often dysfunctional family setting where it takes place. Many of the stories told here point to that fact - reports of sexual abuse that are ignored or not believed. The most blatant one was the story related by JEAN. It always seemed to me that the sexual abuse by IH was only one of many issues. Granted, yes I understand what you are saying, but I have not really had the chance to study them in detail, but I will do so because it is an area that interest me. Will probably come back to it again shortly. Nursing a bad cold at present, brought it back from recent visit to the UK. |
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Post by Commonman on May 22, 2016 8:49:03 GMT -5
Hmmm,
We should ...... define God by what His
traits consist , which are infinite .
And He is perfectly perfect. All in all, in no need
of "help" from another being, has no fault ,
has no need to be corrected by His creation,
and yet time has no affect on Him, as He has
already lived infinite consciousness before He
Created time and human being .
God is not only full and complete , He is overflowing
In His desire to share eternity with those that
love Him for He first loved us.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 22, 2016 19:01:03 GMT -5
I don't believe that the rate of abuse is significantly higher among those who who are pedophiles than among the population in general. Do you have a reference? There may well be other factors.No i dont have a particlar reference, but this reference seems to indicate that "Some" not all abused children do go on to abuse. It also hughlight the fact that children that have been abused in the home and elsewhere, not necessarily sexually abused, but other forms of abuse and neglect, have also turn out to be sexual abusers later in life. It highlights and confirms that forms of abuse on juveniles can and do have serious and negative behavioural effects on them in adulthood. A good reference point though, I do not recall having seen that one before, thanks for posting it. I have decided to subscribe to it, very interesting.
It is a source where I often go for many medical questions. |
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 3:03:15 GMT -5
Yes God is perfect
His plan is to rescue those that believe and love
Him, to a world that will be free from sin.
Why does God allow sin in this world?
Ask Adam. Where did sin come from?
If all sin was prevented, the would human beings
be more perfect and obedient ?
God knows the true value of obedience to
Truly benevolent Prince(ables) . Hmmmm
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Post by xna on May 26, 2016 13:58:37 GMT -5
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Post by snooz on May 27, 2016 5:15:57 GMT -5
I think God, is :
- life
- the matter that begin to be conscious.
- the projection of Mankind dream and potential capabilies ( reach immortality , go beyond our earthly craddle ...).
with God's spirit Mankind will be able to go beyond its weak "pysical corps" and extend / expand Life through the cosmos.
As french philosopher Henri Bergson conclude in his book "The Two Sources of Morality and Religion" ( published in 1932) : Men do not sufficiently realise that their future is in their own hands. Theirs is the task of determining first of all whether they want to go on living or not. Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live, or intend to make just the extra effort required for fulfilling, even on their refractory planet, the essential function of the universe, which is a machine for the making of gods
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Post by Commonman on May 29, 2016 4:12:03 GMT -5
I think God, is : - life - the matter that begin to be conscious. - the projection of Mankind dream and potential capabilies ( reach immortality , go beyond our earthly craddle ...). with God's spirit Mankind will be able to go beyond its weak "pysical corps" and extend / expand Life through Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live, or intend to make just the extra effort required for fulfilling, even on their refractory planet, the essential function of the universe, which is a machine for the making of gods [ An extended plan for and of principles and princely people. Sounds heavenly ..... |
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Post by Commonman on Jun 15, 2016 18:49:17 GMT -5
The New Testament is about the new kingdom
The old kingdom was of this world, heirs and believers in the
Covenant that was promised to Abraham and Sarah through
Israel (Jacob)
Why do we wonder if these kingdoms are
the same kingdom?
They are but now the old covenant is replaced
by the New and Living covenant that was
made possible because of a life that was lived
Perfectly and offered freely to negate the
problem that man caused when we sin
against our Creator.
Free will is a wonderful gift, and we should
be thankful for it, IMO.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 16, 2016 2:50:52 GMT -5
I think God, is : - life - the matter that begin to be conscious. - the projection of Mankind dream and potential capabilies ( reach immortality , go beyond our earthly craddle ...). with God's spirit Mankind will be able to go beyond its weak "pysical corps" and extend / expand Life through the cosmos. As french philosopher Henri Bergson conclude in his book "The Two Sources of Morality and Religion" ( published in 1932) : Men do not sufficiently realise that their future is in their own hands. Theirs is the task of determining first of all whether they want to go on living or not. Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live, or intend to make just the extra effort required for fulfilling, even on their refractory planet, the essential function of the universe, which is a machine for the making of gods
Mankind has been a very effective machine for the making of gods! |
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Post by Commonman on Jun 16, 2016 7:48:00 GMT -5
There is only ONE true and living God. That is the
reason we capitalize it.
That ONE is knowable only if we know His son.
If we do not know the Father we will not know
His Son, either.
That is the promise made from the beginning of
Creation, and still is true as ever.
Throw out beliefs that are erred, do justly, love mercy....walk
humbly with thy God.
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Post by rational on Jun 17, 2016 9:13:39 GMT -5
There is only ONE true and living God. That is the reason we capitalize it. Adding a capital 'G' does not make it true. So you are a member of an exclusive belief system? There are a lot of promised that can be dredged out of the sacred texts. How do you determine which are true and which are false? Do you really think you could throw out your belief in god if errors in that belief system were pointed out? It would be like asking someone holding onto an anchored life-ring to let go and swim the 3 feet to the shore. |
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Post by Commonman on Jun 17, 2016 14:50:51 GMT -5
God hung the earth on nothing.
and it's still where He created it.
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Post by rational on Jun 17, 2016 23:45:33 GMT -5
God hung the earth on nothing. and it's still where He created it. Psalm 104:5 says he set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. That contradicts the idea of hanging the earth and is also wrong in believing it should never move. Or is 1 Samuel 2:8 correct in stating that the pillars of the earth are the LORD’s, and he hath set the world upon them? Of course, this is incorrect as well and unfortunately contradicts what was stated in Job. |
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Post by Commonman on Jun 18, 2016 1:04:06 GMT -5
God hung the earth on nothing. and it's still where He created it. Psalm 104:5 says he set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. That contradicts the idea of hanging the earth and is also wrong in believing it should never move. Or is 1 Samuel 2:8 correct in stating that the pillars of the earth are the LORD’s, and he hath set the world upon them? Of course, this is incorrect as well and unfortunately contradicts what was stated in Job. I agree , with all three statements. And of course you can be right and wrong without knowing it. Things can move and not move at the same time... from relativity, we know that things are not as they might appear from 2 observations. Sorry that you only see from your observation,.  |
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Post by Commonman on Aug 18, 2016 22:18:29 GMT -5
True , only God can forgive sins that are against Truth, but it is quite obvious that Jesus gave us the power to forgive 70x 7 sins , and if we refuse to forgive someone sin against our person, then God would not forgive our sin., Yes , that is what we should be trying to do , increase my faith. |
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Post by Commonman on Aug 18, 2016 22:25:18 GMT -5
I believe God is God. And I also believe that Jesus is Jesus! I must be living in a pretty simple world. *sigh*  |
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Post by Commonman on Aug 18, 2016 22:27:43 GMT -5
I believe God is God. And I also believe that Jesus is Jesus! I must be living in a pretty simple world. *sigh* Oh almost forgot to say, I believe Jesus is the word of God, made flesh and blood. |
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Post by Commonman on Aug 18, 2016 22:33:21 GMT -5
We can forgive people that sin against us, but that doesn't make us angels does it ? |
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