Post by Roselyn T on Aug 25, 2014 0:39:46 GMT -5
I think the reason we discuss the Trinity so much is because we understand so little about it. Nathan has clarified that quite well here, I believe. Snow, if you go back and read my Narrative Critique of the book "Name of the Nameless Sect", by "Irvine"I give a little explanation on the Trinity.
But as to your question re transubstantiation--"No we do not believe that.
We treat the bread and wine for what it represents but hold no sacred thoughts about it other than it being symbolic of the life and death of Christ. I often request that women offer thanks for the emblems. Women will mostly hesitate but I feel they have just as much right to take part in the offering of thanks (consecrating if that is what you suggest) as elders or workers.
Celibacy is required today but was not always that way. In the early days a number of workers were married.
We bear some semblance to what the Waldenses believed but about 100 years ago they merged with the Presbyterians and gave up their two by two ministry and church in the home. I visited their museum in our state about a year ago and talked with one of their leaders and asked why they gave up what they had been for centuries. His reply was..."we joined with the Presbyterians in order to survive.
William Irvine's parents, sisters were raised as Presbyterians.... Many of the Presbyterians forefathers were Waldenses/Vaudois believers in the New Testament apostolic ministry and fellowship in the 15th-18th Century but the original Vaudois/Waldenses kept on holding the practice of the early apostles to the 18th century..
Nathan, how do you know what Irvine's parents were raised as ?