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Post by sacerdotal on Nov 24, 2013 13:52:07 GMT -5
Hi, I haven't visited or posted on this site for quite awhile- I have missed everyone, but unfortunately, I have been too busy with work and family to devote the time that is needed for serious thought on this site. However, I was drawn back to this site this morning by the disturbing contents of an email that Cherie kindly sent me asking if the following gossip about a fellow poster on this board was true... (she said that she received the information from a "reliable" professing friend). The truth (as opposed to the lies being told by the friends and workers) is presented after each of the lies. - Allegation: He does not have a home
[/b]: He owns his own home [li] Allegation: He lives in Tennessee[/li] Reality: He doesn't live in Tennessee [li] Allegation: He has been to Sunday morning meeting recently and given his testimony. [/li] Reality: Nope. I asked him about this, and he said that they haven't been to a Sunday morning meeting in quite awhile, other than Knoxville convention. [li] Allegation: When he gives his testimony, it is "always a sob story"[/li] Reality: Really? Kind of difficult to do without going to meeting. And, since when was giving a SOB story in meeting bad? He would be in the same boat as about 50% of the testimonies in meeting with the flagellates who flog themselves weekly for not being worthy/living up to the Lord's standard/ blah blah blah. [li] Allegation: He visits the friends and refuses to leave[/li] Reality: Nope [li] Allegation: He still doesn't have a job[/li] Reality: Nope. Folks would be REAL surprised to learn what his job is. And it is well paying. [li] Allegation: He is trying to get people to feel sorry for him[/li] Reality: Not based on what I have witnessed, but who the f*** cares? Is this reason enough for the workers to tell the friends not to invite him over or have him for a meeting? [/ul] Now, as Eminem sang, "Snap. Back to reality" for those spreading lies/gossip about my friend. Shame, shame, shame on you. That is all, Cherie can handle the responses to this thread as she is the one that forwarded what was being reported so that she could follow up on it. See, it isn't complicated- go to the source for information- rather than relying on false witnesses/gossips. I picked up the phone and called my friend and spoke with him. I know him to be honest and true.... I wish I could say that for the worker(s) that are telling the friends these lies and instructing them not to have any contact with my friend and his family based on these lies. But, this is the way that sects work.... keep their parishioners in the dark so that they can't come to the light... truth. Kind regards to all those who hate lies and those that tell them. Sacerdotal
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 15:13:54 GMT -5
Don't have even the slightest idea who the person referenced may be nor do I particularly want to know who that one might be. Nontheless, I appreciate this one and the effort to establish reality about someone being misaligned. Been there with none to intercede. Wear the tee shirt. Thank you for your post. Wishing you well.
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Post by faune on Nov 24, 2013 15:34:09 GMT -5
Dennis ~ One thing for sure ~ the notorious Grapevine is still alive and well among the F&W's and never seems to amazes one in its ability at maligning people who have departed the fold due to becoming enlightened along the way. I have a good idea who they are talking about due to his worker status of the past. I'm sure you can relate, since you were treated in a similar fashion by the ugly Rumor Mill within the 2x2 fellowship?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 16:46:41 GMT -5
None of the exclusive folks in the fellowship will ever tell you that someone who has left is closer to God than ever before and walking in love with his Savior. Sad.
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Post by déjà vu on Nov 24, 2013 17:17:52 GMT -5
None of the exclusive folks in the fellowship will ever tell you that someone who has left is closer to God than ever before and walking in love with his Savior. Sad. I agree with you berry , but I wonder how many reject the Lord altogether?
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Post by Linford Bledsoe on Nov 24, 2013 19:28:39 GMT -5
Appreciate your answers to the false allegations sacerdotal. I know well who they are referring to,and don't appreciate it in any form.
By the way Happy Birthday.
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Post by lazarus66 on Nov 24, 2013 21:00:24 GMT -5
Yes Dennis, fortunately for me, that, and the continued spreading of falsehoods about me opened my eyes, and freed me from the 2x2 system as I have been there too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 21:58:17 GMT -5
. ... .. . sacerdotal --- i think your thread really should be labeled the "gossip mill", in stead of how you labeled it, but i cannot change the label, only you can this is really about GOSSIP, short and sweet i was recently glad to have the opportunity to set the 'story' straight with a former co-worker of mine .. we ran into one another on the job, and the first thing she exclaimed was, "you look great!" i took it as a compliment, of course, but then something in the back of my mind also wondered if she presumed or assumed that i wouldn't be looking so good, based upon what she had been 'hearing' about me and based upon what she then envisioned me to (now) be like .. so, we were able to chat a little bit and get caught up and she was truthful in saying, "we all wondered what had happened to you, no one knew for sure, and so i really didn't know" ---so, then when I told her what had REALLY happened, she seemed somewhat relieved to (finally) know the truth .. -so i said to her, 'so, what is the rumor going around about me and why i left?" .. and she did n't really answer me straight out, which told me that maybe some of the rumors were not that positive oh well, i can't control the rumors or what people might be saying about me .. i can only work of my own life and what is going on with myself ..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 22:36:42 GMT -5
None of the exclusive folks in the fellowship will ever tell you that someone who has left is closer to God than ever before and walking in love with his Savior. Sad. I agree with you berry , but I wonder how many reject the Lord altogether? Some do, some don't. this board pretty much demonstrates that.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 24, 2013 22:48:12 GMT -5
. ... .. . sacerdotal --- i think your thread really should be labeled the "gossip mill", in stead of how you labeled it, but i cannot change the label, only you can this is really about GOSSIP, short and sweet i was recently glad to have the opportunity to set the 'story' straight with a former co-worker of mine .. we ran into one another on the job, and the first thing she exclaimed was, "you look great!" i took it as a compliment, of course, but then something in the back of my mind also wondered if she presumed or assumed that i wouldn't be looking so good, based upon what she had been 'hearing' about me and based upon what she then envisioned me to (now) be like .. so, we were able to chat a little bit and get caught up and she was truthful in saying, "we all wondered what had happened to you, no one knew for sure, and so i really didn't know" ---so, then when I told her what had REALLY happened, she seemed somewhat relieved to (finally) know the truth .. -so i said to her, 'so, what is the rumor going around about me and why i left?" .. and she did n't really answer me straight out, which told me that maybe some of the rumors were not that positive oh well, i can't control the rumors or what people might be saying about me .. i can only work of my own life and what is going on with myself .. There is no way you can try to stop the rumors or try to correct them.
It is for themselves that they must believe negative reasons about why one quits professing.
If they were to even admit to themselves that there was any kind of legitimate reason for ones leaving, it would put a doubt in their minds as to their own beliefs, -and of course that is unthinkable!
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Post by jondough on Nov 25, 2013 0:51:01 GMT -5
Hey SD- Good to hear from you!
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Post by snow on Nov 25, 2013 11:59:23 GMT -5
None of the exclusive folks in the fellowship will ever tell you that someone who has left is closer to God than ever before and walking in love with his Savior. Sad. I agree with you berry , but I wonder how many reject the Lord altogether? That's an okay option too you know. It doesn't make those of us that no longer believe in anything religious, bad people. We still are quite capable of love, compassion and we don't become some kind of evil being just because we no longer believe in God. I have just as much capability as anyone who believes in God. So to write someone off because they have 'rejected the Lord altogether' seems to a misguided judgement call.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2013 14:19:28 GMT -5
Reminds me of my days dealing with ex's. Some said and treated me as a died in the wool, worker worshipping, head in the sand, works-based & bound 2x2. A few who actually knew me, and Very few who weren't automatically prejudiced because I would stick up for friends and workers, would occasionally privately email and discover different. But, they "didn't want to get into it on the boards...". So much for ex's beinng interested in the truth being said.
For a while I hosted an email group of friends, and ex's who weren't too bent out of shape. Oh my. That was interesting. The rumors that became "truth" on the open discussion boards. You could quickly see how "that sounds right... (to their prejudice)" after a few more go arounds became "it's almost certainly true..." to "that's what it is". The outright lies by some who new better, to further a belief and confirm expectations, took me by surprise. One incident was kind of funny. We had a private chat session of a few freinds, and one fellow who seemed nice but was kind of half in half out. It turned out to be an innocuous chat mostly with a few maybe this or that to do's maybe. Well, on the public boards, this fellow made up a whole cloth description of what was "Really" going on. I found it kind of humorous really, but what was interesting is how well he pegged unfriendlies expectations. Replies of "yeah, what would you expect" "I'm not surprised" "I figured it would be something like that" etc etc. phhht, So much for ex's being interested in the truth. Fortunately I'd logged the whole session just in case something did come that was worth following up on. I challenged the fellow publicly, mentioning my log, to which, just to show the prejudice of other ex's, I was informed, "anyone can make up fake logs". Yes, they are right. I never botherd persuing the discussion.
That's the trouble with me. One probably should follow up on a number of these things. They probably are important. I just don't have the time or interest.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 25, 2013 15:03:30 GMT -5
So, ettu, you really believe what you stated about us ex's is true? "So much for ex's being interested in the truth." So, you are lumping all of us ex's together as not being interested in the truth of of the **TRUTH**?
Do you believe that we aren't being truthful about our experiences in the **TRUTH?**?
I notice that you haven't yet answered my question concerning, "how much history of the TRUTH do you know as far as to your parents, grandparents etc.?
Were any of your family professing in the past? (that is, in the "good old days" ;)between 1900 and say, 1960-1970?)"
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