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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 23:40:53 GMT -5
i went and looked in the mirror and i sware i think i look 100% human
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Post by Gene on Nov 20, 2014 6:23:15 GMT -5
i went and looked in the mirror and i sware i think i look 100% human Replace the mirror with an endoscope, and then tell us what you think
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Post by snow on Nov 20, 2014 11:04:49 GMT -5
That was an interesting article xna. Thanks for that. It would make it interesting if drugs we were given could be made less toxic by knowing before hand how we might react to them and it sounds like this might be something we will understand a bit better. Also, how to enhance the ones we need to be healthier. Lifestyle does make a difference in many ways.
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Post by snow on Nov 20, 2014 11:05:24 GMT -5
i went and looked in the mirror and i sware i think i look 100% human Looks can be deceiving.
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Post by xna on Nov 20, 2014 19:17:36 GMT -5
Dead Sea Scroll Facts www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.htmlFact #14. Qumran community called themselves the members of "the Way." Fact #22 "Although the Qumran community existed during the time of the ministry of Jesus, none of the Scrolls refer to Him, nor do they mention any of His follower's described in the New Testament."
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Post by snow on Nov 21, 2014 9:54:20 GMT -5
Dead Sea Scroll Facts www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.htmlFact #14. Qumran community called themselves the members of "the Way." Fact #22 "Although the Qumran community existed during the time of the ministry of Jesus, none of the Scrolls refer to Him, nor do they mention any of His follower's described in the New Testament." Have you read the scrolls xna? They are quite interesting the ones I have read. I haven't read them all and likely won't as they are just a repeat of what's in the bible that I have read. But what I do find pretty interesting is the fact there is no mention of Jesus yet the group were in existence at the same time he was supposed to have been wandering, ministering and crucified. I do wonder if the story of Christianity didn't originate with this group because a lot of what they believed was similar. There have been attempts by biblical scholars to link Mary and Joseph to this group and therefore Jesus, but I don't think they've been really all that successful. For one thing, no women were allowed at Qumran. Mind you there were some that were married but only got together with their wives during the time when conception was allowed. There was a certain time in September approximately when it was considered to be the time for conception and the rest of the year they lived apart. I remember reading about this practice and the author suggested that Jesus was conceived in July instead which was not acceptable.
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Post by xna on Nov 21, 2014 10:30:13 GMT -5
Dead Sea Scroll Facts www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.htmlFact #14. Qumran community called themselves the members of "the Way." Fact #22 "Although the Qumran community existed during the time of the ministry of Jesus, none of the Scrolls refer to Him, nor do they mention any of His follower's described in the New Testament." Have you read the scrolls xna? They are quite interesting the ones I have read. I haven't read them all and likely won't as they are just a repeat of what's in the bible that I have read. But what I do find pretty interesting is the fact there is no mention of Jesus yet the group were in existence at the same time he was supposed to have been wandering, ministering and crucified. I do wonder if the story of Christianity didn't originate with this group because a lot of what they believed was similar. There have been attempts by biblical scholars to link Mary and Joseph to this group and therefore Jesus, but I don't think they've been really all that successful. For one thing, no women were allowed at Qumran. Mind you there were some that were married but only got together with their wives during the time when conception was allowed. There was a certain time in September approximately when it was considered to be the time for conception and the rest of the year they lived apart. I remember reading about this practice and the author suggested that Jesus was conceived in July instead which was not acceptable. ~ Snow. I have not read them. I have seen them, and the caves they cave from, so I have some interest in them. I was searching for @nathanb aliens in the dead sea scrolls, but I did not find any, and noticed there was no mention of Jesus. I always though that the dead sea scrolls were not talked about much because they may have contradicted the bible, but now I suspect it's the absence of Jesus that is the elephant in the room. BTW The local Jews in Jerusalem generally think Jesus was just one of many hippies of that time.
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Post by snow on Nov 21, 2014 11:12:22 GMT -5
Have you read the scrolls xna? They are quite interesting the ones I have read. I haven't read them all and likely won't as they are just a repeat of what's in the bible that I have read. But what I do find pretty interesting is the fact there is no mention of Jesus yet the group were in existence at the same time he was supposed to have been wandering, ministering and crucified. I do wonder if the story of Christianity didn't originate with this group because a lot of what they believed was similar. There have been attempts by biblical scholars to link Mary and Joseph to this group and therefore Jesus, but I don't think they've been really all that successful. For one thing, no women were allowed at Qumran. Mind you there were some that were married but only got together with their wives during the time when conception was allowed. There was a certain time in September approximately when it was considered to be the time for conception and the rest of the year they lived apart. I remember reading about this practice and the author suggested that Jesus was conceived in July instead which was not acceptable. ~ Snow. I have not read them. I have seen them, and the caves they cave from, so I have some interest in them. I was searching for @nathanb aliens in the dead sea scrolls, but I did not find any, and noticed there was no mention of Jesus. I always though that the dead sea scrolls were not talked about much because they may have contradicted the bible, but now I suspect it's the absence of Jesus that is the elephant in the room. BTW The local Jews in Jerusalem generally think Jesus was just one of many hippies of that time. I can understand why they think that. There were many wandering around preaching of end times and healing and other miracles were said to be attributed to them. Many were not happy with the Temple priests because they charged so much for their services which many felt should be given freely because they were from God. Many of these travelling preachers were crucified. Jesus was not the only one, or most likely Jesus was a collective of those who were crucified and the story around them.
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Post by snow on Nov 21, 2014 14:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Nov 22, 2014 11:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Nov 22, 2014 12:01:48 GMT -5
Also found this article interesting. I do like Sam Harris and I am increasingly learning to dislike Aslan. He has some good thoughts on things, but he is increasingly showing his true colors imo. He has an agenda to discredit atheists who are what he calls 'militant'. www.samharris.org/blog/item/on-the-mechanics-of-defamation/
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Post by snow on Nov 29, 2014 11:27:39 GMT -5
This should probably go in my thread about God, heaven, Lucifer's rebellion thread. I don't particularly like the way he presents this, but his thoughts on the whole God problem really resonate for me.
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Post by snow on Dec 15, 2014 19:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 20:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Dec 15, 2014 21:42:50 GMT -5
Not sure, it doesn't go into that. Just says cause of death was malnutrition according to the news station anyway. It appears they were Seventh Day Adventists? Do they have a strict diet?
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Post by xna on Dec 15, 2014 22:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 0:00:19 GMT -5
i was spanked by my mother and grandfather and beaten by my father i know the difference betwix the two i see no problem with spanking using the 3 swat rule with the hand only...
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Post by snow on Dec 16, 2014 11:46:07 GMT -5
I can't help but wonder why there isn't consequences for people who put this stuff out there too. The Bible and books based off of what they think the bible says are so obviously poor parenting books, yet people don't seem to get this! It makes my heart hurt when I read about children abused because of this book. What continues to amaze me is people are defending this stuff. There is no defense for child abuse and one of the books that advocates child abuse is the OT in the bible.
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Post by snow on Dec 16, 2014 11:51:30 GMT -5
i was spanked by my mother and grandfather and beaten by my father i know the difference betwix the two i see no problem with spanking using the 3 swat rule with the hand only... It isn't necessary. Both my children were raised without spanking. Both are doing just fine. I was also raised with spankings. Lots of them. My parents listened to the workers in this regard and there was rarely a meeting that I wasn't taken out and spanked. I couldn't sit still and so I got spanked. No one lifted a finger to prevent it. I remember wooden spoons, wood rulers across the face, switches from trees, and I don't think I'm as mentally healthy as my children that were not spanked. Just because we survived the spankings Wally, doesn't mean we are better off for them. I'm sorry about the beatings you got. I know what they are like. I wondered for years what I did to deserve getting my head slammed against cement side walks or anything that happened to be handy. For my own good of course.
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Post by xna on Dec 25, 2014 20:59:49 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Dec 25, 2014 22:37:58 GMT -5
Yes it is interesting xna. Thank you for posting it. I have always found it interesting how some people can deny science is true yet believe things that can only take strong faith in order to believe them. Scientists especially baffle me when they use rational thought and the scientific process in their work yet turn around and believe in a 6000 year old earth or a virgin getting pregnant etc. It all makes no sense to me how they can rationalize and separate these things in their minds. The only conclusion I can come to is that it is comforting and serves some purpose in their lives. If that is the case then it must be preserved for them in order to feel comforted and/or safe possibly? I need things that have some proof to them. That's how I operate. Science does that for me more often then religion ever did, so it was an easy choice for me.
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Post by xna on Dec 28, 2014 21:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Dec 28, 2014 23:07:28 GMT -5
Oh wow! that's bad! However, Kirk Cameron is a tad zealous and is a creationist that has been trying to use his leverage as an 'actor' to pull science books from schools, bring prayer back in and he is also a creationist that explains in creationist language how the Grand Canyon was formed. So.... not really all that surprised.
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Post by snow on Jan 1, 2015 12:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Jan 1, 2015 18:09:02 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Jan 1, 2015 18:21:10 GMT -5
The world is always changing. Found that article pretty interesting. Found #9 to be scary.
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Post by xna on Jan 1, 2015 18:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Jan 1, 2015 18:48:53 GMT -5
I don't watch TV often either. I do read the news on the computer and sometimes will listen to local news when my husband has it on. But even he has cancelled the cable and just gets a few channels for news etc. As far as FOX news being the news station of choice, it does explain some of the stuff we hear from people.
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