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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 5:08:58 GMT -5
TLC members follow Christ's advice when he said "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and REND you.
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Post by Done4now on Aug 7, 2011 5:29:30 GMT -5
Today, August 6, 2011 is TLC's 2nd Birthday.And soon it will give birth to a new TLC Website which the public will be able to view. "It was a great experiment!" TLC members follow Christ's advice when he said "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and REND you. I'm sure everyone will be eagerly looking forward to this landmark development. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 5:45:09 GMT -5
I rest my case. TMB will REND you. ( Tear you apart.)
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Post by Done4now on Aug 7, 2011 6:57:02 GMT -5
I rest my case. TMB will REND you. ( Tear you apart.) I didn't try to tear anyone apart. I commented thinking that it seems to be a departure from previous policy that TLC is going to be throwing some "pearls" to the "swine" as you so elegantly put it. I have no desire to see the "swine" do any "rending" or to be involved in such myself. Is having an open website a move to silence the critics who have been saying that TLC is exclusive? |
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Post by IllinoisGal on Aug 7, 2011 8:16:16 GMT -5
Isnt TLC designed for ex 2x2s only? Being exclusive isnt always a bad thing. Its the admins pergogative to conduct a board as they see fit. After seeing some of the posts arguing on this board between 2x2ers and exs I can see why they want a board to discuss some issues in private.
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Aug 7, 2011 8:36:44 GMT -5
I rest my case. TMB will REND you. ( Tear you apart.) I didn't try to tear anyone apart. I commented thinking that it seems to be a departure from previous policy that TLC is going to be throwing some "pearls" to the "swine" as you so elegantly put it. I have no desire to see the "swine" do any "rending" or to be involved in such myself. Is having an open website a move to silence the critics who have been saying that TLC is exclusive? I really respect you ckirkham and this post is an example why. The implication is that all who post here at TMB and not at TLC are dogs and swine not fit to give TLC's precious pearls and holy things to. Reading all posts in this thread puts it in different light. Plain and simple it smells of self righteous hypocrisy - "thankfull we are not like the dogs and swine on TMB" meanwhile we dogs and swine can just ask God to be merciful and he will. Yes, the judgment of TLC types doesn't matter at all in the big picture, God will judge. Thanks for your post. |
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 7, 2011 10:11:24 GMT -5
I wrote: "And soon it will give birth to a new TLC Website which the public will be able to view. "
Some took this to mean that the TLC Forum would be opening up to the public - NOT SO!
What it means is this: There will soon be launched a totally separate website from the TLC Forum. So there will be
(1) the TLC Forum
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(2) the TLC Website.
The new website will bear the TLC name - and contain articles, stories, letters, book reviews, etc. written by ex-2x2s who give permission for these items to be placed on the new TLC.
The new TLC Website will be available for public to view , just as TTT nd TLT are open to the public to view. No registration is required. There will be no forum contained on the new website, and no option to add commentary.
Most of the content will be new items which have never viewed by those outside TLC Forum
Before someone asks...there is no launch date set yet.
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Post by Barry G on Aug 7, 2011 13:24:59 GMT -5
Before someone asks...there is no launch date set yet. Monday, December 24, 2012 ;D |
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Post by Done4now on Aug 7, 2011 14:42:37 GMT -5
I didn't try to tear anyone apart. I commented thinking that it seems to be a departure from previous policy that TLC is going to be throwing some "pearls" to the "swine" as you so elegantly put it. I have no desire to see the "swine" do any "rending" or to be involved in such myself. Is having an open website a move to silence the critics who have been saying that TLC is exclusive? I really respect you ckirkham and this post is an example why. The implication is that all who post here at TMB and not at TLC are dogs and swine not fit to give TLC's precious pearls and holy things to. Reading all posts in this thread puts it in different light. Plain and simple it smells of self righteous hypocrisy - "thankfull we are not like the dogs and swine on TMB" meanwhile we dogs and swine can just ask God to be merciful and he will. Yes, the judgment of TLC types doesn't matter at all in the big picture, God will judge. Thanks for your post. thank you. |
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Post by Scott Ross on Aug 8, 2011 11:07:35 GMT -5
As info: Not everyone who applies to join TLC is accepted.
The chief considerations for TLC membership are:
Is the applicant an Ex-2x2?
Are they a risk to either the Peace or Privacy of TLC.
Is there a conflict of interest?TLC PEACE & PRIVACY POLICYThe Liberty Connection (aka TLC) strives to be a “Safe Haven” for members who share the common background of being Ex-2x2s. The TLC Forum is committed to privacy, peaceful discussion, respectful expression, support, recovery and healing. CARDINAL REQUIREMENT: TLC members share a common background. All have spent some time in their life in the 2x2 church and have chosen to leave that church. All members of TLC must either be (1) an Ex-2x2; or (2) born and raised in meetings but did not profess. Not all who are qualified on the basis of these two points are accepted. Some other relevant factors considered when evaluating Applicants are:
PEACE & TRANQUILITY: Would this Applicant be a risk to the Peace of TLC? How would this prospective member affect the Safe Haven environment of TLC? Does this Applicant have a history of being hard to get along with? Has the Applicant been known to be disrespectful or disruptive in past situations? PRIVACY: Would this Applicant be a risk to the Privacy of TLC? Confidentiality is of the utmost importance to the survival and effectiveness of TLC, and members place a high value on this feature of TLC. How likely is this Applicant to reveal to non-members any personal disclosures made by TLC members? Has this Applicant betrayed confidences in the past?
CONFLICT OF INTEREST: A Conflict of Interest occurs when a member has an interest that might compromise their actions. What is the potential for this Applicant to promote their own interests over the interests of TLC? Would advancing outside interests be more important to this Applicant than following the TLC rules and guidelines? The presence of a Conflict of Interest is not evidence of wrongdoing, and it is possible that no improper acts would result from it. The TLC Administration does its utmost to carefully screen Applicants and accepts only those who are Ex-2x2s and who do not pose obvious risks to the Peace or Privacy of TLC. However, the TLC Administrators are fallible human beings, and therefore, we can make no guarantees. We thoroughly screen Applicants and make the best possible decision. We cannot afford to take new security risks at the expense our current members. The long term and overall good of The Liberty Connection and its entire membership is of prime importance, and we reserve the right to make arbitrary decisions to protect the best interests of TLC. I was wondering if these rules are still in effect. I was discussing the TLC with someone, and understand that it has been proposed that professing folks be allowed to join the TLC, at least as far as access to portions of it. Could you post the revised requirements here and how one goes about being recommended by exes now? Does it require a statement of any sort as to why they should be allowed to join? I know of some folks that might be interested if it is open to professing folks. Thanks, Scott  I was asked again about how someone still professing is allowed to join. I checked the thread, but this wasn't answered I don't think. I know that portions of the TLC were opened up for those who are thinking of leaving the meetings, and was wondering if the requirements are posted somewhere, and how these folks are recommended. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2011 22:26:06 GMT -5
Christ's words, not mine.
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Post by rational on Aug 8, 2011 22:32:16 GMT -5
Isnt TLC designed for ex 2x2s only? Being exclusive isnt always a bad thing. Its the admins pergogative to conduct a board as they see fit. After seeing some of the posts arguing on this board between 2x2ers and exs I can see why they want a board to discuss some issues in private. And I can imagine it would be very uplifting to post and have no one disagree or question the veracity of the post. |
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 8, 2011 22:49:15 GMT -5
Scott asked:
Applications by Friends to join the Friendly Connection Board within TLC are handled on an individual basis.
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Post by Scott Ross on Aug 8, 2011 23:15:11 GMT -5
Scott asked: Applications by Friends to join the Friendly Connection Board within TLC are handled on an individual basis. Do they just register like anyone else and then answer questions, or is their participation solicited by TLC members who feel they are 'on the fence'? I had a lengthy conversation with one of the TLC members who felt a bit threatened by having professing folks being allowed to join, and also a couple of professing people asking whether they might be allowed there. I let them know that I couldn't recommend them......  |
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 8, 2011 23:45:59 GMT -5
Both. When anyone applies, they are partially processed and are placed in a holding area as "Unverified." They receive a PM and select the appropriate questionnaire to complete: for a Friend or for an Ex.
FC or TLC Membership may come about after the answers are reviewed and evaluated.
There's no reason for anyone to feel threatened. The Friendly Connection (aka FC) board is a totally separate board and FC members cannot view or participate on the TLC board. On the other hand, the TLCers can view and participate on both boards.
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 8, 2011 23:58:11 GMT -5
Applications by Friends to join the Friendly Connection Board within TLC are handled on an individual basis.I wish to make application, how do I proceed? thanks noels Sorry Mr. Chuckles...you don't meet the basic qualifications. You must be a SERIOUSLY QUESTIONING Friend. You're not one of the Friends. You're not seriously questioning. CK |
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Post by JO on Aug 9, 2011 1:26:59 GMT -5
I wonder if we cultists would be allowed to attend TLC meetings as observers only, without posting privileges?
Non 2x2ers are welcome in gospel meetings, if they quietly listen.
It seems ironic that an ex board would be exclusive?
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Post by eh? on Aug 9, 2011 8:00:18 GMT -5
Sorry Mr. Chuckles...you don't meet the basic qualifications. You must be a SERIOUSLY QUESTIONING Friend. You're not one of the Friends. You're not seriously questioning. CK Think of the TLC as a 'counseling session,' unless it's your session, you are not allowed in. |
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Post by Scott Ross on Aug 9, 2011 8:18:58 GMT -5
There's no reason for anyone to feel threatened. The Friendly Connection (aka FC) board is a totally separate board and FC members cannot view or participate on the TLC board. On the other hand, the TLCers can view and participate on both boards.
I think that one of the issues was that if one wanted to participate on the FC board, they would need to change their screen name if they were registered under their own name.
I'll pass the info along to those that asked in case they don't read it here.
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 9, 2011 9:40:24 GMT -5
noels
From your questions and statements, it's quite obvious that your problem is that you just "dont have a good understanding." And until you get the revelation, you will never understand. Hopefully, you won't become bitter. Of course you know that if you had the right spirit, you wouldnt even question.
CK
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Post by someguy on Aug 9, 2011 11:40:17 GMT -5
I wonder if we cultists would be allowed to attend TLC meetings as observers only, without posting privileges? Non 2x2ers are welcome in gospel meetings, if they quietly listen. It seems ironic that an ex board would be exclusive? Not really ironic JO, as I think many people post there as a place to find people with common experiences or who can provide advice for dealing with family issues. Ironic maybe but safer, yes definitely |
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 9, 2011 13:12:36 GMT -5
The common denominator of all regular TLC members is that every member has rejected the meeting system...and they no longer are members. They have made the break - divorced themselves, burned their bridges and left the system behind.
Some professed; some were B&R and never professed.
Most all agree that no F&W can truly understand the effects that making this break has on someone--unless they make the break themselves.
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Post by emy on Aug 9, 2011 13:54:00 GMT -5
I wonder if we cultists would be allowed to attend TLC meetings as observers only, without posting privileges? Non 2x2ers are welcome in gospel meetings, if they quietly listen.It seems ironic that an ex board would be exclusive? And not just gospel meetings but any meeting in most parts. |
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Post by emy on Aug 9, 2011 13:56:44 GMT -5
The common denominator of all regular TLC members is that every member has rejected the meeting system...and they no longer are members. They have made the break - divorced themselves, burned their bridges and left the system behind. Some professed; some were B&R and never professed. Most all agree that no F&W can truly understand the effects that making this break has on someone--unless they make the break themselves. Rejection of other Christians... isn't that a no-no? |
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Post by stargazer on Aug 9, 2011 14:47:17 GMT -5
The common denominator of all regular TLC members is that every member has rejected the meeting system...and they no longer are members. They have made the break - divorced themselves, burned their bridges and left the system behind. Some professed; some were B&R and never professed. Most all agree that no F&W can truly understand the effects that making this break has on someone--unless they make the break themselves. I can understand if a TLC member needs a safe place to vent and heal from what they consider traumatic or in fact was traumatic. It seems though, if that's the primary reason for existence, that board is destined to be principally comprised of the newly hurt and wounded and their mentors. Those who actually heal would probably want to move on, so, it makes sense that TLC members would be interested in TMB and elsewhere. So I'd welcome TLC members here if they'd continue to respect this forum as it's said they do there. For that matter, and we've all learned something about this for ourselves, it's incumbent to all TMB posters and members to be courteous as well. |
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Post by ronhall on Aug 9, 2011 15:15:19 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly.
Being courteous is to be kind, and being kind is one evidence of the "Fruit of the Spirit".
I believe that being kind in a public setting where a person is basically incognito is a very accurate and positive indicator of the person's real character.
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 9, 2011 15:49:25 GMT -5
Emy wrote: Rejection of other Christians... isn't that a no-no?
Hardly - "The meeting system" and "other Christians" are not one and the same entity.
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Post by greatfull2010 on Aug 9, 2011 15:57:21 GMT -5
How true!!
When in the 2x2's we / I would often comment on those that left that they took the easy way out. Wow how wrong was I ??
Im sure in some cases where a person has built up a network outside the 2x2's and maybe like some I know have turned to the bottle and its just a short stumble from one foot in to both feet out - the outward transition seems easy
In my families case and many others I know, the experience was traumatic and still from a human relationship perspective is very hard.
Its a fairly unpleasant conversation when close friends or family condemn you to hell and then show their back to you as they walk away and discard you as crap!!
For some (exclusive and heartless) F&W's sitting in a lovely cocoon of self righteous security, the attitudes are most likely " too bad - you made your bed - sleep in it!!"
Ohh the bliss of the well of ignorance that I once feasted on.
Yep - initially I spent most of my online time on TLC and I found it in valuable. As the healing progressed, I have spent more time on TMB.
I laugh at those F&W's who want to have access to TLC !!
Thats just like opening the doors to all abusive husbands and men at the Womens Refuge!!
Seriously people - if you understand that some exes go through a personal hell when they leave the fellowship surely you can accept that it is logical and helpful for them to have some support??
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