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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 20:13:16 GMT -5
Actually, no I am not interested in watching others worship devils, but I do feel a little guilty for wishing that a few people on this board should get together with a Ouija Board® and try to talk to William Irvine, and then come tell us what happened...
That would be interesting reading!
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 21:06:44 GMT -5
Since I can only post on one topic besides sexual abuse, I may as well at least try to take an interest... I took this from the Faith Mission archives of 1897( www.faithmission.org/resources/archives/1886_99/1897/1897016.htm ). Obviously these people had at least some things in common with the F&Ws. Does this sound familiar? The conference closed with a searching address by Mr Morgan on Genesis v. 21-24: " Enoch walked with God." The power of the Holy Ghost was manifestly felt in the meeting, and as He revealed the point of controversy, and the doubtful thing (Rom. xiv. 23) which had hindered progress and fellowship in the past, many rose to their feet to signify that God had conquered, and that they made a full surrender, and would trust Him to conquer for them. |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 22:33:56 GMT -5
I should have realized that everyone already knows all this stuff...
But you know, the Wikipedia® article on Irvine is very biased. They use quotes like "he believed such and such" as if they knew. Nobody knows what someone that died before they were born believed. There are better ways to phrase it. For example: "Today it is believed by some that William Irvine believed such and such"... you see what I mean? I was actually a reporter, went to school and everything. The Wikipedia® article is not written in the form of how an actual encyclopedia would write it.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 22:40:18 GMT -5
okay before I go to bed... I just typed in William Irvine into another online encyclopedia search engine, and guess what came up?
An ad from Intelius saying "Are you curious about William Irvine? Because guess what? We found him!"
;D
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Post by emy on Mar 23, 2011 22:57:44 GMT -5
Hi Ranman. Somebody needs to let you back in here.  |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 23:00:54 GMT -5
Oh, and I was just on another thread where I can't reply, but something someone was talking about was if any sects at all believed in a lost eternity... not sure of the rest of the conversation, but still it is more talk on what someone else believed...
I find it dissatisfying... intellect will get you nowhere until you define your priorities about what you really want to know... and considering that eternity is coming very soon, I would think that there would be better things to talk about...
like the trademark thing, that is pretty deep and that came to me in an actual vision from God before I professed... nobody finds that interesting??? I find that the most puzzling thing...
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 23:05:33 GMT -5
Hi Emy! ((((((((((Hugs))))))))) |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 23:18:35 GMT -5
Moline: "I beleive EB went to court last week
does anyone know what the sentence was ?"
The above was just posted, the first post that I read after exiting this thread. You see to me that is just a confirmation of what I was saying... That is Moline's belief. Not a very deep, spiritual belief, in my opinion. She may have more beliefs to share. But tonight, at least for a moment or more, that is the belief that is on her mind and in her heart...
What do you believe?
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2011 23:48:52 GMT -5
frustrating to have genuine deep thoughts and not find anyone that can fathom it... that's all... no offense to anyone, but it is like trying to dive into a pool and hitting your head on the bottom...  |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 0:52:32 GMT -5
I sort of got off track. Talking about a lost eternity is actually deeper than many care to go. Kudos to everyone for that. (maybe why I come here)... but can a "sect" have a belief? Does a corporation deserve the same rights as an individual?
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 2:56:14 GMT -5
Hi Ranman. Somebody needs to let you back in here. Maybe. I don't know. Someday maybe... But I am okay either way... my posts are here... just that nobody knows anything about the subject that I want feedback on... |
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Post by emy on Mar 24, 2011 12:25:02 GMT -5
{{{ranman}}}
Sorry, I have no thoughts on the mark.
Come over to chat sometime. I haven't gone much for awhile, but would be fun to see a bunch there again.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 12:30:26 GMT -5
yeah, so far as I know, I am the only person on earth to experience such a thing, most have no understanding of it all, but I have it on good authority that understanding is the key ingredient in the equation...
I go to chat now and again, saw Teri, Jack, and Greg there a few nights ago...
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 24, 2011 13:19:40 GMT -5
Actually, no I am not interested in watching others worship devils, but I do feel a little guilty for wishing that a few people on this board should get together with a Ouija Board® and try to talk to William Irvine, and then come tell us what happened ... That would be interesting reading! I hope you're not being serious - I wasn't. If you are serious, then you are believing something not based on fact, which follows the rest of your posts on this page. Go to the website. It won't damage your eyes . . . or your brain. It might even be good for you. |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 13:34:43 GMT -5
Actually, no I am not interested in watching others worship devils, but I do feel a little guilty for wishing that a few people on this board should get together with a Ouija Board® and try to talk to William Irvine, and then come tell us what happened ... That would be interesting reading! I hope you're not being serious - I wasn't. If you are serious, then you are believing something not based on fact, which follows the rest of your posts on this page. Go to the website. It won't damage your eyes . . . or your brain. It might even be good for you. I was serious about the Ouija Board®, but just for kicks, there is nothing you can trust about anything said on a Ouija Board®, I think that is what they used to call "familiar spirits", but I don't know, I just know that they work, whatever they are. But on my own experiences? I have had some that you haven't... But you have had some that I haven't (just not this one I am referring to).. And the website? Okay I will check it, but I better laugh... (there was absolutely no harm in sending the link, not to me, anyway)..lol Thanks, eyedeetentee! Good to see you, btw! And |
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 24, 2011 13:40:19 GMT -5
No, I wasn't referring to the ouija board comments - I meant the 'watching others worship devils' comment pertaining to Shriners.
Yes, good to see you as well. I was in the room the other night but didn't stay long. You must have fallen asleep in your rocking chair.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 13:51:14 GMT -5
No, I wasn't referring to the ouija board comments - I meant the 'watching others worship devils' comment pertaining to Shriners. Yes, good to see you as well. I was in the room the other night but didn't stay long. You must have fallen asleep in your rocking chair. Oh yes, probably asleep, (but it is a couch, lol)... and yeah, I think I was chuckling when I said that about the "watching, etc"... That stuff won't effect me (much), let people do their crazy stuff, I can watch it but I doubt that I could ever "get into" it, so yeah I probably wasn't very serious (about that).. |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 13:54:55 GMT -5
Eyedeetentee? I looked at the link, I didn't see anything devilish.. Why did you say that I might? I have absolutely no knoweedge of the Shriners.. Sorry... |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2011 13:58:05 GMT -5
*knowledge I see they have temples, and that kind of thing. Maybe there are a few kooks in it, I don't know... |
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 24, 2011 13:58:58 GMT -5
LOL. That's my point. Shriners are good folks who do good things for kids. Same as the Freemasons. Nothing negative about either group, unless raising money for sick or handicapped kids is negative.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 24, 2011 14:02:17 GMT -5
If you read the history of the Shrines, you will find out why they are called temples. It has nothing to do with religion. It is based on history. I will give you a hint - read about Solomon in the old testament or do an internet search on "Freemasonry, King Solomon".
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 25, 2011 2:29:23 GMT -5
Interesting stuff... and yeah they are good ol' folks! In fact, the Knights Templar is my last resort to get financial aid for my eye surgery, but I have to show them that I have been denied by everyone else first... (I have glaucoma, they say I am going blind, need surgery and a valve put in my eye)... So here's to the Kinghts Templar!! |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 25, 2011 18:23:31 GMT -5
So eyedeetentee, basically the whole reason for using Solomon's Temple as their building style was because for all purposes, it was one bad ass structure... like Terminator of all buildings...
Am I right?
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 26, 2011 11:56:11 GMT -5
Sort of. They trace their roots back to King Solomon and his crew of stone masons. Freemasons are basically free from being actual stone masons. Freemasons meet exactly as did the stone masons back then. The only difference between the two is Freemasons do not build physical structures out of stone. Maybe another reason for using the history of King Solomon is because they could not find any other recorded history of stone masons pre-dating King Solomon.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 29, 2011 13:22:48 GMT -5
Solomon himself is very interesting to me, not that I ever had the time to learn all the interesting facts about him and store them in memory, much of what I learned was from the bible, and some from the friends... But I don't have the guts to judge Solomon, as I have seen some do... I will just let Solomon be Solomon if I have to have a choice in it... |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 29, 2011 13:34:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't even really want to concentrate on William Irvine too much, lol, interesting to me that the truth faith traces at least that far back, about halfway between the first US registered trademark and the invention of the television, give or take... everything seems to come to its conclusion in a timely order... It all fits together, neatly woven in simple truth... and the verses Cherie mentioned, good luck to her in getting a real vision of those things... I almost died in getting my little vision of the latter part of Rev. 13, and that vision didn't even show me the spirits that Cherie is talking about, but only the physical result on the earth, what man has done while under the influence of said spirits, and that would include the lady of Babylon (any layman can determine that to have fornicated with all the kings of the earth, one would have to be a spirit, nobody else has lived that long)... But I did see the smoke coming up from the people.. |
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 29, 2011 14:03:38 GMT -5
Some people suffered more, or had more alone time, like banished on an island like Patmos, creates the perfect environment to get that close to God..
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 29, 2011 14:17:26 GMT -5
I am not implying that these things are not possible, getting such visions, but it took (takes) a lot of very intense prayer, and then it all comes as a surprise in a Way that that you would have least expected... But there are visions which many people experience, many times it is in experiencing the same life struggles and "type" of situations that those in the bible went through... that is a good thing... it should be enough...  |
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