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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 13, 2010 19:36:16 GMT -5
Some corrective words addressed to Gods people to encourage a change in attitude and actions.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
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Post by reply on Nov 13, 2010 19:47:52 GMT -5
2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
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Post by ts on Nov 13, 2010 23:05:24 GMT -5
Not sure what you are getting at. :-)
Well, some would have us believe that the way to not have it once named among us is to sweep it all under the rug and keep it quiet. That would give them good reason to vilify those who do name it when it is among us.
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 14, 2010 21:32:56 GMT -5
Not sure what you are getting at. :-) Well, some would have us believe that the way to not have it once named among us is to sweep it all under the rug and keep it quiet. That would give them good reason to vilify those who do name it when it is among us. Perhaps the verses find application to some and to others not so much
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 23:46:58 GMT -5
I can't see that the words "let it not be once named among you" encouraging anyone to sweep things under the rug. I take Paul's meaning as "let it never ever be done amongst you."
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 15, 2010 6:33:39 GMT -5
I can't see that the words "let it not be once named among you" encouraging anyone to sweep things under the rug. I take Paul's meaning as "let it never ever be done amongst you." Hberry I don't either nor do I think TS believes that is the right application. I think that that perhaps is indeed the practice we who have been in the fellowship witnessed ken
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Post by sharonw on Nov 15, 2010 7:41:07 GMT -5
I can't see that the words "let it not be once named among you" encouraging anyone to sweep things under the rug. I take Paul's meaning as "let it never ever be done amongst you." Hberry I don't either nor do I think TS believes that is the right application. I think that that perhaps is indeed the practice we who have been in the fellowship witnessed ken We can stop and think, though, what it is that causes people to desire to sweep the horrific failings under the rug, can't we....doesn't the bible say something about pride and men falling?
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 16, 2010 14:06:26 GMT -5
Hberry I don't either nor do I think TS believes that is the right application. I think that that perhaps is indeed the practice we who have been in the fellowship witnessed ken We can stop and think, though, what it is that causes people to desire to sweep the horrific failings under the rug, can't we....doesn't the bible say something about pride and men falling? Sharon Thanks for your thoughts "Nothing will change without recognizing the problem." I believe thats where some of the friends in the F&Ws fellowship find themselves blind and wandering about in the wilderness of denial. Those who stand up are labeled as bitter or no revelation. They that stand up and require changes are walking in the light Ken
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 15:00:02 GMT -5
Ken, In re-reading your original post, I think I have a clearer idea of what you had in mind and I agree; I just got a little side tracked by some of the comments.
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 16, 2010 15:25:48 GMT -5
Some corrective words addressed to Gods people to encourage a change in attitude and actions. Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 16, 2010 16:14:46 GMT -5
Thanks Hberry for your post The verse in revelations 9:21 has been on my mind and in particular the reference to theft Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. My thoughts are those who would rob or steal our personal salvation with erroneous thoughts or tradition of men. I suppose that we are responsible for ascertaining if our walk is in the right side of town spiritually or we risk getting robbed. What do you think JMT ken
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2010 18:45:19 GMT -5
Ken, I'm still mulling over your thought...it puts an interesting, and sobering twist, to that verse.
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 16, 2010 21:47:12 GMT -5
Ken, I'm still mulling over your thought...it puts an interesting, and sobering twist, to that verse. Hberry Ceretainly a sobering thought if referring to our salvation ken
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Post by burdenofproof on Nov 17, 2010 1:12:24 GMT -5
Not sure what you are getting at. :-) Well, some would have us believe that the way to not have it once named among us is to sweep it all under the rug and keep it quiet. That would give them good reason to vilify those who do name it when it is among us. Hush up, ts! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) On a more serious note: "Let it not once be named among you", to my interpretation means do not let there be a REASON/cause for it to be brought up; IOW(in other words), keep yourself pure, clean, and upright, and behave in such a way as to not cause that to be in question. fwiw-bop
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Post by sharonw on Nov 17, 2010 7:55:44 GMT -5
We can stop and think, though, what it is that causes people to desire to sweep the horrific failings under the rug, can't we....doesn't the bible say something about pride and men falling? Sharon Thanks for your thoughts "Nothing will change without recognizing the problem." I believe thats where some of the friends in the F&Ws fellowship find themselves blind and wandering about in the wilderness of denial. Those who stand up are labeled as bitter or no revelation. They that stand up and require changes are walking in the light Ken Seems to me that it just fulfills the bible where it speaks about those loving "darkness" because of their dark deeds. There'll come a time those same people will be actually seeking the cracks and crevices in the earth's mountains/caves to avoid the shining of the rising Star some day and won't be able to find it quick enough....for the bible does say that every eye shall see Him and every knee shall bow. Maybe there's been people during and since Jesus' day that can claim they had not witnessed the Christ....but in that day, they will see and witness Him both. The carpets and secrets of people hidden in darkness will come to light and we're seeing a good bit of that these days!
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Post by sharonw on Nov 17, 2010 8:00:24 GMT -5
Thanks Hberry for your post The verse in revelations 9:21 has been on my mind and in particular the reference to theft Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. My thoughts are those who would rob or steal our personal salvation with erroneous thoughts or tradition of men. I suppose that we are responsible for ascertaining if our walk is in the right side of town spiritually or we risk getting robbed. What do you think JMT ken A voice of similarity and practicality, eh? Comes into the many are called but few are chosen....perhaps....otherwords the banding together of people just for a sect or group's sake is perhaps the most dangerous thing a human can do....it IS good to have those groups but not to the detriment of our souls...IF the group serves to keep us exhorted in spirit, then more power to them...but when man's doctrine becomes demandments(if that is a word), then it is nothing but down hill from there or as you put it...on the wrong side of town, the wrong side of the tracks, eh?
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