A sinking ship? Apr 16, 2010 18:36:25 GMT -5
Post by Admin on Apr 16, 2010 18:36:25 GMT -5
Apr 8, 2010 21:22:02 GMT -5 @jason said:
Apr 8, 2010 11:48:39 GMT -5 @clearday said:
Write him yourself or ask someone you trust who has heard from him.
Actually, I don't care enough to bother. I do care about ethics and moral processes; but that is as far as my involvement goes.
I admit to being vaguely amused by all the hair-pulling and shirt-tearing lamentation. Haven't people realised yet that the Fellowship is a sinking ship? It's going to be gone in 40, or 50 years precisely because of this fear of technology and inability to promote and declare the gospel and God's glory (among other things). Perhaps it is God's favour withdrawn.
Anybody who invests themselves in the Fellowship, from a business stand-point, is going down a track that terminates in failure. The Fellowship has not only lost entire families in recent years, but also is not sustaining itself from within. "Natural growth" is where your church continues because you baptise your kids, basically. We aren't even doing that. We might baptise one kid out of every four born, if we're lucky, two.
If outsiders come in to profess, it is usually hailed as a miracle. And so it is. Statistically, if you manage to find the meetings you're lucky, and if you stay and listen to what is sometimes very poor communication for a year of Sundays, if you accept the convoluted doctrine-that-is-not-doctrine, and if you finally profess, the chances of it happening are so overwhelmingly remote, that it must surely be a miracle if it happens at all!
Few people "get" that it is the result of putting so many hurdles in front of seeking souls, that to get to the end of the track requires superhuman persistence.
For me, the greatest pull-back is the lack of intellectual freedom, and the criticism that happens whenever one uses their brain. I have always loved the Scriptures and God, and always wondered why people have reacted poorly to my mentioning research on particular issues. Now I know. Probably the same forces that may have been involved in this blog going down. I do not seriously doubt that this was the reason (although I do give Clearday a hard time sometimes).
I hate the enforced idleness. I would dearly love to start a Bible study group, or go from door-to-door sharing the gospel, or write promotional brochures and hand them out, or start a website or magazine for the Friends. I would love to do anything like that because I love the Gospel.
But if I tried any of these, I would be shunned (imagine arriving to the meetings with a stack of magazines - they would be burned!). If I asked the Workers, they would reject all proposals in favour of the status quo (which is a colossal failure that is getting worse and worse). I wonder how many people are in my circumstances. Passionate, energetic, young, and deeply moved to share the Good News, but are left on their keisters for all that energy to fade away or be channelled elsewhere.
There's no energy for the gospel - anywhere. It's not like it was 30 odd years ago when I was a boy. People believed it back then - that it was actually true - and were firery, passionate. Some of those old Workers boomed their convictions to the stars. People were eager to defend their faith, promote their faith. It's gone. The passion has gone, and invariably, the faith will follow.
This is an earlier post by Jason to get the ball rolling. I have bolded the phrase (intentionally provocative) in Jason's post that is used in the title. The mod team believe this type of discussion is important and can do us good to think about.