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Post by Zorro on Mar 11, 2008 17:22:31 GMT -5
The rules state that I can't discuss the debate while it's going on, but I don't think it would be improper to offer you my thanks  If so, maybe I could plead for 50 lashes with a wet noodle (a cyber noodle, of course). |
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Post by to zorro on Mar 11, 2008 17:27:53 GMT -5
zorro have anything to say?Yes, I do. Are you interested? One of Jesus primary teachings/doctrines, included an example of people boasting of them being worthy of eternal life , and thus they claimed to have done everything they possibly could , yet they were lacking. But what were they essentially ''lacking''? Good question! and I cannot give you a comprehensive answer, and it is impossible for me to know much about what you believe, other than the words that come from your word processor! And likewise you cannot know much about me, either. How can anyone judge something without tasting it, smelling it, or seeing it.....and even then, our judgement is imperfect, even as I know only God is our judge, yet I do know that to condemn Gods truth, cannot demonstrate much ''faith'' in our God, can it? Just some musings, not possible for me to know your salvation, is it? |
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Post by ranman77007 on Mar 11, 2008 18:28:54 GMT -5
the thing about exclusivity is that i think everyone, if they had a choice, would hope in non exclusivity. but the bible supports exclusivity in the Way, and it supports non exclusivity in who shall be saved.
for example, the psalm reads "the heavens declare the Glory of God." anyone, a native american in the year 1400 could see the heavens.
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Post by Scott Ross on Mar 12, 2008 11:20:46 GMT -5
That true believers can be identified solely within the membership of the F&Ws fellowship.The debate topic seems to have moved a bit over to deflecting the issue to the individual rather than the original topic. More popcorn please! And a scone or two would go nicely.... Scott 
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Post by freespirit on Mar 12, 2008 23:01:56 GMT -5
**passes Scott popcorn; goes back into kitchen**
um... ladies... I'm not sure where that layered cake came from. I didn't make it--I'm just making scones, tea and coffee at the moment. It just showed up here on the cabnet... so... um... I dunno. It might be suspicious.
Zorro, GiT... good job with the openings. Please let me know if our kitchen staff can bring any refreshments to you.
fs
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Post by Rob O on Mar 12, 2008 23:17:49 GMT -5
LOL Zorro. I'm sorry! As I said, I was about to "call" GiT on it too when I realised (as you must have been posting) that it was an issue my end between the log times in the different accounts.
Very sorry.
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Post by Zorro on Mar 12, 2008 23:26:52 GMT -5
Rob,
No worries. It's all good.
Z
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Post by Rob O on Mar 12, 2008 23:30:59 GMT -5
At least I can't be accused of bias against GiT. ;D
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Post by ranman77007 on Mar 13, 2008 19:18:43 GMT -5
Since I am rebutting 2 posts, this rebuttal will be in 2 parts. First, I will respond to GiT’s second post, then his opening statement.
PART ONE: Response to 2nd post
First, I do indeed know what a straw man argument is and GiT perfectly demonstrated one. Secondly, GiT has slightly overreacted with his accusation of me “commanding” readers to ignore his post, when the actual word I used was “ask”.
the above is the beginning of Zorro's post. i don't want to read anymore. this has nothing to do with the one true church at all.
is this all i have to look forward to? accusations and insults? so this is the serious debate...
will someone at least tell me if the whole post is like this before i read it....
yukky scone.
***sigh***
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Post by ranman77007 on Mar 13, 2008 19:25:20 GMT -5
i guess my above post should have been on another thread. i wonder if i will get in trouble for it. sheesh...
why are there all these threads and we can only post on certain ones? this is like goddam school, or worse- WORK... i am just going to respond where ever i am responding from now on....
feel free to delete any of my posts, but i am not checking threads anymore before responding !!!
its a BURDEN. i come here to relax and read and post.... not to do homework or get into a production line with damn supervisors... and i aint a ball player and don't need a referee.
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Mar 13, 2008 22:37:18 GMT -5
Oh Ran...come on. It's not that difficult to figure out where you can and can't post. *Primarily 2x2 stuff on the main board* *other stuff on the other ones...they all have pretty specific titles, so it's not hard!* *the only ones you can't post "junk" to (referring to all of our posts some of the time) in this forum are the ref thread and the serious debate thread. Is it really something to get all bent out of shape over? (said nicely) M. |
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Post by ranman77007 on Mar 13, 2008 23:05:03 GMT -5
Oh Ran...come on. It's not that difficult to figure out where you can and can't post. *Primarily 2x2 stuff on the main board* *other stuff on the other ones...they all have pretty specific titles, so it's not hard!* *the only ones you can't post "junk" to (referring to all of our posts some of the time) in this forum are the ref thread and the serious debate thread. Is it really something to get all bent out of shape over? (said nicely) M. you don't understand. i saw something i wanted to reply to and i clicked reply, but after i was already into my post, i realized it was on the wrong thread. this whole thing is for you guys, not for me, and i aint checking threads...period. i am sick of all the control trying to be exercised here on me. just because you and everyone likes it, i don't want to even think about it, much less like it. nobody can force me to start making sure i am on a thread that its ok to post on before i post. screw that, all deals are off. i can't believe i waited this long to make a stand. and as far as the main board, i am sure there are things that people are glad were posted there because they often forget to watch the other boards, and therefore would not have got to read many good things... i get fan mail from main board posters. ;D and i love them. when i want to respond to something, i want to click and respond right then and there, while the thought is on my mind. this is like horrible self discipline training .... please, i don't come here to stress that i am doing something wrong. and i am not cutting my post off in the middle of a thought just to change threads. sorry. but feel free to do it yourself !!  it don't bother me. my posts will be deleted, but maybe i'll just concentrate on making good posts that people wish wouldn't be deleted. maybe when all the books are burned, you will regret losing your library. |
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Mar 14, 2008 3:00:12 GMT -5
If you were already into the thread it wouldn't have been a big deal to right click, press cut.....back into the proper thread and paste it...all of a few seconds. I know you know how to cut and paste from all those youtube links...  (works the same as copy/paste anyway...as I'm sure you realize.) *sigh* It's not about liking it or not liking it anyway (having to make a post on this thread or that one); that's what you don't seem to understand and why SO many are frustrated by you. The main thing here, as far as you go anyway, is about respect...you rarely exhibit any. It's just simply not nearly as difficult as you make it SOUND to follow the rules. I've had a very long day today, too...yet, I manage somehow. It's frustrating. You don't like anyone telling you that....but many don't like much of what you post...for that very reason...so........................I guess I just don't really care if you don't like it once in a while when I tell you what *I* think either. *shrug!* Personally I think you're putting way too much emphasis on how much people care about your posts. I don't think the vast majority here would care ONE WIT if every one of your posts, from all of your IDs...were wiped out tomorrow. In the same way that they wouldn't care if mine were either.....most of us are just chatting or bickering back and forth about one thing or another...there isn't much here that's...what could we say....encyclopedia (if they were still around!) worthy anyway! You post about "should I delete my threads" and have talked about it MANY times on this board in past threads...and then mention it in your last post here. AGAIN, I'm not talking about just YOU...but ME..and *most* others as well.....nobody really cares about the posts, Ran....none of them really have much in the way of anything to worry about losing, imo. BUT, as *always* this is only MY opinion, so.......possibly very wrong. Whatever. I've been wrong before. M. (PS...I mean with the possible exceptions of the more serious threads on the board. We all want the TMB to be around to chit chat on, for support, etc etc....but if we all deleted most of our posts tomorrow....eh...it wouldn't be THAT big of a deal...yanno? M.) |
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Post by ranman77007 on Mar 14, 2008 19:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 18, 2008 13:19:20 GMT -5
I think a couple of you need some cake. You're like a wigwam and a teepee - two tents.
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server of the trays
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Post by server of the trays on Mar 18, 2008 14:21:09 GMT -5
HELP! HELP! I am still stuck in eyedeetentee's office
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Post by swede on Mar 21, 2008 0:20:36 GMT -5
So apparently GiT has withdrawn from his personally requested formal debate. Very impressive. How is it that no one is even a little ruffled by this? I would like to hear him counter Zorro's carefully thought out post, and defend his own bold statements. At the very least, concede with some dignity. You can't just take your ball and go home, just because you are behind on the scoreboard.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 21, 2008 0:29:19 GMT -5
Go back in the history pages, swede. Or better yet, ask Frank for some recommended reading. This is normal behavior.
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Post by swede on Mar 21, 2008 9:13:28 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure than just because it's normal behavior doesn't mean it's ok. But if he's fine with losing all credibility, then so be it.
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Post by Scott Ross on Mar 21, 2008 10:50:08 GMT -5
Are the scones all gone? How about the popcorn?  Any other goodies left??? Looks as if the first two debates are both over with, and I just wanted to be sure to eat up the goodies so they don't go stale before the next debate happens.... BRING US SOME NEW DEBATERS!!!! I want some more goodies... And none of those evangelical brownies either. The last time I had those I couldn't stop eating, and then I couldn't find my mtorcycle.... Scott |
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Post by Frank on Mar 22, 2008 1:04:55 GMT -5
So apparently GiT has withdrawn from his personally requested formal debate. Very impressive. How is it that no one is even a little ruffled by this? Jason Landless is a spineless coward. (Incidentally, this makes him a prime candidate for cult brainwashing.) Jason Landless is an "artful dodger". He can sidestep an issue and 90% of the time, you won't notice that he's avoided addressing the issue unless you dedicate yourself to studying his tactics. He changes the subject, addresses a parallel subject, ignores a subject outright, or invents personal hardship/tragedy to excuse himself from dodging a subject. Jason Landless isn't entirely to blame for his behavior. He's a product of his environment and his "artful dodger" tactics are typical of the 2x2 mindset in general. Simply put, Jason Landless is an outstanding 2x2. You are not alone, but you'd best stop dreaming and move on. Jason Landless hadn't been registered long when TMB members began to imagine what it would be like if he were to engage in debate with some of the well-spoken, articulate, intelligent, theologically strong TMB old-timers, many of whom had already moved on. Zorro is one of these people. Well, we've had our debate and now we know, as the historical record shows, that Jason Landless is a theological lemming. When the going get's tough, Jason Landless get's going. Jason Landless is living proof that even a fool can own a thesaurus. Jason Landless is of the mind that his statements are bold enough to stand on their own. This is cult logic: Bold statements are self justifying. Cult logic dictates that 2x2s are never wrong, even if they're wrong. Actually, this is a defining characteristic of 2x2ism. Being excommunicated for expressing concern with sexual impropriety is an excellent example of this. |
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Post by IllinoisGal on Mar 22, 2008 14:34:18 GMT -5
WOW Frank. Dont you think your word assault on GIT is a little less than appropriate?
I think you and him just need to totally ignore one another. I may be wrong but I think you are going against the rules of this board attacking somene like that.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 22, 2008 20:48:08 GMT -5
Illy girl, swede asked a question and Frank answered. It is not as if this has not happened before. Git's behavior is repetitious and some people do not know of him or have never read anything by him. So naturally they are curious. I think Frank did a fine job of answering the question(s).
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Post by Rob O on Mar 22, 2008 20:56:53 GMT -5
So....anyone want to volunteer to be next? (Hint: does not mean volunteer someone else)
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 22, 2008 21:14:26 GMT -5
I saw someone go into my office just a second ago. Can't get away from these special brownies. Where did Freespirit go? The spectators are asking for more sustenance. What happened to my waitresses and waiter? Man! These brownies are good!
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Post by degem on Mar 23, 2008 20:19:53 GMT -5
Maybe your waitresses and waiter ate too many of those special brownies.
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Mar 24, 2008 0:02:27 GMT -5
*puts out more snacks for eyedeetentee, since he appears to have " the munchies" * ;D
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Post by eyedeetentee on Mar 27, 2008 0:33:16 GMT -5
Ahhhhh, my best friend.
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If so, maybe I could plead for 50 lashes with a wet noodle (a cyber noodle, of course). 
(works the same as copy/paste anyway...as I'm sure you realize.)
