|
|
Post by GodIsLove on Sept 26, 2009 14:26:02 GMT -5
"Television has served to destroy family bonds in the homes of the world, but it seems to me that the computer, without adequate control of the parents, is doing exactly the same thing among us today."
Again I just feel moderation and the content involved is what matters.. not the machine itself that destroys. It reminds me of when growing up we had a VCR TV (not regular tv to watch every day) and we watched movies and anytime the friends/workers came around we'd drag it away to the closet to hide it. We'd also hide DVDs. It's sad that we led such a double life in my family, but I do laugh about it now... :-D
|
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Sept 26, 2009 15:43:09 GMT -5
IMO a competent, educated, intelligent management team would come to the parents and ask for input for solutions--work in partnership--FELLOW-WORKERS in Christ--rather than trying to do it all themselves with top-down dictatorial micromanagement about issues (such as childrearing, marriage, family issues) with which they have no experience.
Really, this is what I'd like to yank the overseers up and tell them:
Be a leader, a visionary--not a micromanager!
Stop majoring in the minors!
The fields are white!
Preach about Christ, not iPods!
Give God a chance to work!
We're on the same team here!
We're worried about the kids too!
Stop trying to do it all yourself!
Quit treating us like brainless grunts and actively encourage us to use our talents, our gifts, our creativity, our intellect and our organizational skills to help you!
If you don't know how to do that, take a leadership class!
The people are here, we are ready to follow--but we NEED guidance, competent leadership AND a safe--I mean REALLY SAFE--place to voice opinions without fear of being branded a rebel and excommunicated!
Get the older friends who have raised children to help those of us with kids!
Get the people who are good with kids to do activities to teach the kids!
Give the elders and their wives back their authority and annoiting as spiritual servant-leaders in the church instead of being chair pushers!
--voice crying in the wilderness--
fs
|
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Sept 26, 2009 15:46:09 GMT -5
comic relief: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsfVYfs, who likes to put the fun in dysfunctional ;D edited link... I don't know why the link doesn't work... but it doesn't have the video I originally linked to.  |
|
|
|
Post by sharon on Sept 26, 2009 19:13:50 GMT -5
The sermon against the ordinances of "taste not, handle not, want not" certainly puts things like TV's and mp3's in their proper place. It's mentioned that with the using of such things that they end on the earth. So people get aware of how quick these things wear out, new styles come in, better technology....just like the TV's in the last 10 months...people have had to buy all new TV's because the old ones would not be usuable...I'd hate to think how full the landfill is of old useless TV's! But it is true, they do end with the using of them on this earth sometimes before they wear out, sometimes after they wear out and sometimes after we wear out!  |
|
|
|
Post by open mind on Sept 26, 2009 22:07:57 GMT -5
Maybe the workers need to preach about CSA too!!
We had a wroker very recently in our house who showed us a funny video that had swearing in it!! DOes he need a bad note sent to him?
|
|
|
|
Post by kiwi on Sept 27, 2009 4:16:11 GMT -5
Maybe the workers need to preach about CSA too!! We had a wroker very recently in our house who showed us a funny video that had swearing in it!! DOes he need a bad note sent to him? No just his bum smacked ;D |
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Dec 9, 2009 22:57:57 GMT -5
bump.
fs
|
|
|
|
Post by sapphire on Dec 11, 2009 1:18:11 GMT -5
freespirit, loved your posts in this thread! You are right on!! Thanks for bumping this thread up. I'd never seen it before!
|
|
arlow
Junior Member
Posts: 58
|
Post by arlow on Dec 11, 2009 12:28:48 GMT -5
I can't believe this letter is out again.
|
|
|
|
Post by What Hat on Dec 11, 2009 15:54:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty good with John Gunn's letter with a few caveats.
There's always the question if it is better to talk to individuals privately or to 'broadcast' messages of this nature.
It depends a lot on the message. If the speaker is really concerned with one or two parties, then broadcasting might offend a lot of people who are not the 'guilty' ones.
However, if it's done tactfully and gently then broadcasting is a very good way to get a message out without offending anyone directly.
It can be a tough call.
I think I would have been a little less pointed in mentioning specific violations and examples. I'm all in favour of leaving every kind of trapping behind when we attend convention. In fact, I can't imagine kids with MP3 players at convention. However, I think making a pointed statement like that is dangerous territory. I have seen newcomers at their first convention ever be reprimanded and that seemed to be the beginning of the end for them.
As someone stated above, it is the content that matters, not the device so much.
It's probably much better to extol principles and "a better way" and be prepared for the fact that you'll get different levels of agreement and co-operation along whatever line is espoused.
|
|
Woody
Junior Member
Posts: 182
|
Post by Woody on Dec 11, 2009 16:45:14 GMT -5
Kudos to freespirit. You rock, girl!
Mankind is moving into a new era of evolution. It all began with radio, then television, now internet and portable comm devices, such as mobile phones with texting capability, or digital music players with WiFi. Information, knowledge, and social interaction has dimensions that were completely unrealized a couple of generations ago. Where this leads us, in terms of society, I have no idea, but there are sure to be growing pains along the way. And change is always difficult. Even changes for the better.
|
|
shiloh
Senior Member
Posts: 723
|
Post by shiloh on Dec 12, 2009 8:29:16 GMT -5
Another reason why a website needs to be done in SPanish. The non-English professing world needs to be better informed about issues involving "the truth" fellowship meetings.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 8:54:02 GMT -5
I was at someone's place when a show called "American Beauty" was on TV. I asked them to turn it off or we would have to continue our conversation elsewhere.
Please spare me any talk of me quoting this show "out of context," or it being "harmless." If you live for this stuff then you will die with it as well.
(Excerpts taken from the opening lines of "American Beauty", provided from a website.)
I need a father who's a role model, not some horny geek-boy who's gonna spray his shorts whenever I bring a girlfriend home from school.
ANGLE from outside the shower: Lester's naked body is silhouetted through the fogged-up glass door. It becomes apparent he is masturbating.
LESTER (V.O.) (amused)
Look at me, jerking off in the shower.
LESTER (V.O.)
That's our next-door neighbor Jim.
A second MAN in a conservative suit (JIM #2) comes out of the house.
LESTER (V.O.) (cont'd)
And that's his lover, Jim.
|
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Dec 12, 2009 10:16:49 GMT -5
*ahem, ahem, ahem* bert.  I told you to stop googling porn stars a few months ago, but that is not the sort of movie and websites you should be googling either, young man! Go wash your eyes out with soap. fs JUST KIDDING!  ;D ;D ;D |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 10:34:06 GMT -5
and I promise, I didn't see this one ;D
I read about SHARON STONE and her infamous no-panty scene in Basic Instinct.
I will quote "Stone... interrogated by a panel of police officers, all of them male... uncrosses and then re-crosses her legs. The camera angle allowed the audience to briefly get a glimpse up Stone’s skirt, showing that she was not wearing any underwear.
The lighting setup allowed the audience to get a reasonably clear view of Stone’s genitalia. (ANI)
I remember complaining about the influence of TV back in the days of Rin Tin Tin and Bonanza. Many laughed at me - but I reckon the laugh is on them, considering.
|
|
|
|
Post by Gene on Dec 12, 2009 11:31:09 GMT -5
Bert, as part of your research project into the degrading standards of the moving-picture industry and its influence on the decay of modern society, you may want to view the movie "Short Bus". This movie was in limited release in movie theatres world-wide in 2006, I believe.
|
|
|
|
Post by calleduntoliberty on Dec 12, 2009 15:13:19 GMT -5
What's interesting is especially the part about the convention grounds being holy only during convention. I don't get that one?! I thought our body was supposed to be His temple and not a physical place. It's also funny that four days out of the year are the only time we would separate ourselves and dedicate ourselves to God. We should be doing this every minute of every day and be praising God alone and letting Him direct our lives instead of a mere human. Would you prefer that he considered the grounds to be holy all year? Maybe the person who wrote that considers the grounds to be holy during convention because that is when so many bodies of God's servants are present? I don't know the person's thoughts, but that interpretation seems consistent with your belief that "our body [is] supposed to be His temple and not a physical place" -- the place being considered holy only when it is filled with many of God's people. The second MP3 player contains an FM radio, so I can catch up on national and world news from NPR and the BBC. So it is an evil device... Well, he did say "they can be used for good". There are many things that can be used for both good and evil. Other parts of his message do not seem to show that same discretion, however. He seems to actually write with the assumption that the music (if it was actually music and not some other audio recording such as a sermon, calculus lesson, economics talk, etc.) was actually not "useful for good". |
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Dec 12, 2009 15:36:29 GMT -5
Would you prefer that he considered the grounds to be holy all year? Maybe the person who wrote that considers the grounds to be holy during convention because that is when so many bodies of God's servants are present? I don't know the person's thoughts, but that interpretation seems consistent with your belief that "our body [is] supposed to be His temple and not a physical place" -- the place being considered holy only when it is filled with many of God's people. CUL... I'm confused about this post. Are you saying that it's okay to defile our bodies as long as we aren't around a bunch of other people? scratching head,  fs |
|
shiloh
Senior Member
Posts: 723
|
Post by shiloh on Dec 12, 2009 17:13:38 GMT -5
How many professing young folks in Spain/Espana are aware of the websites about the "truth"? Do they know the history of the fellowship? And the British origins?
|
|
|
|
Post by calleduntoliberty on Dec 12, 2009 18:20:13 GMT -5
CUL... I'm confused about this post. Are you saying that it's okay to defile our bodies as long as we aren't around a bunch of other people? scratching head, fs Am I? |
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Dec 12, 2009 18:30:21 GMT -5
It sounded like you were to me. I dunno. That's why I asked. fs |
|
|
|
Post by calleduntoliberty on Dec 12, 2009 19:02:17 GMT -5
It sounded like you were to me. I dunno. That's why I asked. fs I wonder how that is? I just re-read my post for your sake and that's clearly not what I said. In fact, that part of my post was speculation as to the possible beliefs of someone else, not a statement of my own beliefs at all. But as to those possible beliefs, note that I said that he might consider "the place being considered holy only when it is filled with many of God's people". Note the word 'place', not 'body'. Nor did I say anything about defiling anything. |
|
|
|
Post by spanky on Dec 12, 2009 23:27:45 GMT -5
Watch out for that "evil" music that god created! Oh, and that apparatus medium that "plays" the evil music.
You can only listen to hymns! And not on an iPod. You can only listen to hymns played on a piano. Made out of Maple. It has to be an upright too. No Grand Pianos. No Baby Grands either; they smack of haughtiness.
|
|
I told you to stop googling porn stars a few months ago, but that is not the sort of movie and websites you should be googling either, young man! Go wash your eyes out with soap. 
