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Post by open mind on Sept 16, 2009 6:31:42 GMT -5
Can anyone point me to where it says in the bible we need to make daily sacrifice?
I have been reading in Hebrew's about Jesus sacrifice being once for all sin and that regular sacrifice was of the old law...
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Post by sharon on Sept 16, 2009 6:59:24 GMT -5
Can anyone point me to where it says in the bible we need to make daily sacrifice? I have been reading in Hebrew's about Jesus sacrifice being once for all sin and that regular sacrifice was of the old law... EVD Mt,16:24- "Then Jesus said to his followers, 'If any person wants to follow me, he must say NO to the things he wants That person must accept the cross(take up your cross and follow me) suffering that is given to him, and he must follow me." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2009 7:05:51 GMT -5
Not the sacrifice of animals but Paul spoke of dieing daily.
There are nine references to submitting
34 references to obeying and 12 of obedience
122 of suffer, 15 of suffering
28 of the cross (not just Jesus' but our own too)
I have not looked at rejection, hate, loss, being unknown etc..
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Post by shushy on Sept 16, 2009 7:07:05 GMT -5
Can anyone point me to where it says in the bible we need to make daily sacrifice? I have been reading in Hebrew's about Jesus sacrifice being once for all sin and that regular sacrifice was of the old law... Could you be more specific please? Sacrifice of what? Dying to self? Loving and serving the Lord? Prayer? Fasting? Seeking him? Singing love songs to him? Reading the word? Not sure what you are asking. Sorry |
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Post by freespirit on Sept 16, 2009 8:02:32 GMT -5
Heb 13: 15-15 Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise--the fruit of lips that confess his name. And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased. An interesting quote: Happiness cannot be traveled to, owned, earned, worn or consumed. Happiness is the spiritual experience of living every minute with love, grace and gratitude. --D. Waitley  fs |
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Post by rational on Sept 16, 2009 12:39:28 GMT -5
Heb 13: 15-15 Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise--the fruit of lips that confess his name. Be glad it was not translated as continuously! |
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Post by ithascome on Sept 18, 2009 19:34:17 GMT -5
Two verses in Daniel 12 have puzzled me. What do they mean?
Do they apply to the end-time or were they fulfilled some other time in the past?
Here are the verses: "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days."
(Daniel 12:11,12) also (Daniel 9:27) and (Daniel 11:31)
It is also mentioned again in Matthew 24:15-21.
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Post by eschatologist on Sept 18, 2009 20:14:59 GMT -5
Thank you ithascom for the question from Daniel. It interests me too, so much so that I am encouraged to register. I hope there are others who share my interest in discussing end time issues.
This is not something I ever heard more than once or twice from workers. Are there any nowadays who preach on end times?
There are broadly pre-millenialists, amillenialists and post-millenialists. I would assume most of the friends fall in the first category. Those that give it much thought, that is.
I am intrigued, what is the meaning behind your chosen name on here, ithascome? Thanks again for raising this topic.
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Post by ithascome on Sept 18, 2009 20:52:21 GMT -5
;D Look at the link to my website below.
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Post by Dubious Disciple (xdc) on Sept 18, 2009 21:46:16 GMT -5
Two verses in Daniel 12 have puzzled me. What do they mean? Do they apply to the end-time or were they fulfilled some other time in the past? Here are the verses: "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days." (Daniel 12:11,12) also (Daniel 9:27) and (Daniel 11:31) It is also mentioned again in Matthew 24:15-21. The interpretation must depend upon what you believe about the book of Daniel. Prophecy or history? Or both? If (as many bible scholars surmise) Daniel was written about 165 BC, then of coruse, the "abomination that causes desolation" is the reference to the times, Antichus IV's desecration of the altar and setting up idol worship there. The 1290 days until the Temple was cleansed did come to pass as "prophecied," though the book's author was writing about recent history, not predicting the future. |
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Post by Dubious Disciple (xdc) on Sept 18, 2009 21:50:31 GMT -5
To carry this a step further, John wrote about a second occurance in Revelation. The daily sacrifice ceased in the second temple period as well, 40 years after Christ. Josephus wrote about that day. John, of course, was reading his Bible as he wrote Revelation, thinking this time around, the world HAS to come to an end, amidst what was surely the greatest suffering the Jews ever endured (the war of 70 AD). The world didn't end, of course...it's been nearly two mellenium. Another bad guess.
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Post by alana on Sept 19, 2009 11:11:49 GMT -5
What did Jesus mean when he said to "take up your cross and follow...." This, I think, is where the idea of going against human nature and denying oneself pleasure was interpreted from. When it didn't happen naturally, then banning was imposed. Methinks.
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Post by sharon on Nov 28, 2009 22:20:35 GMT -5
To carry this a step further, John wrote about a second occurance in Revelation. The daily sacrifice ceased in the second temple period as well, 40 years after Christ. Josephus wrote about that day. John, of course, was reading his Bible as he wrote Revelation, thinking this time around, the world HAS to come to an end, amidst what was surely the greatest suffering the Jews ever endured (the war of 70 AD). The world didn't end, of course...it's been nearly two mellenium. Another bad guess. As in many other historical accountings we can see comparatively similar things that have happened down through the ages, so I firmly believe that which Daniel prophesied came to pass at least twice and will happen again, but whether that marks the return of the Lord isn't sure in my mind thought the "3" seems to have some significance. I've wondered back when I was little and heard older folks speak about how the abomination of the desolation in Daniel had already happened..."What if we're all wrong and Jesus has already returned? What if this is the new earth God planned?" I suppose things get right confusing for the very young, eh? |
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Post by shushy on Nov 29, 2009 6:07:30 GMT -5
Do you honestly think Christ has returned?
I didnt see him in the sky did you?
This is the old earth so how could it be the new?
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Post by tammy on Nov 22, 2019 16:07:29 GMT -5
I am hoping this helps..... Hebrews 10:1-18
Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice for sin. Christ died once as the perfect sacrifice for sin.
Before Christ the sacrifice of animals was the law that had to be performed when sin happened. What they are saying here is that the previous sacrifices before Christ were not the perfect sacrifice. If they were they would not have needed them year after year. Nor would they have stopped offering them when Christ was sacrificed.
The issue here is that the blood of bulls and goats can not take away sin. Those sacrifices were more of a reminder of sin. If these sacrifices removed sin then the worshippers would have no longer have felt guilt. But apparently guilt was not removed. The very repetition of these sacrifices bared testimony that the real sacrifice had not yet come. The law was only a shadow of what was to come.
These offerings were preparatory and temporary looking forward to the one perfect sacrifice that of the incarnate Son of God. This perfect sacrifice offered in complete submission, supersedes and therefore replaces all previous sacrifices. There is no other sacrifice for sin. Our sins are covered by the blood of Jesus.
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Post by shushy on May 15, 2020 12:19:45 GMT -5
Heb 13: 15-15 Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise--the fruit of lips that confess his name. Be glad it was not translated as continuously! |
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Post by shushy on May 15, 2020 12:22:04 GMT -5
There are benefits to praise. He inhabits the praise of his people.
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Post by rational on May 20, 2020 12:04:02 GMT -5
Can anyone point me to where it says in the bible we need to make daily sacrifice? I have been reading in Hebrew's about Jesus sacrifice being once for all sin and that regular sacrifice was of the old law... EVD Mt,16:24- "Then Jesus said to his followers, 'If any person wants to follow me, he must say NO to the things he wants That person must accept the cross(take up your cross and follow me) suffering that is given to him, and he must follow me." This seems like a idiom (take up your cross and follow me) used before it became an idiom. The phrase does not seem to be a pre-existing idiom. Could it be a postdiction? |
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Post by shushy on Jun 12, 2020 16:44:56 GMT -5
Jesus said many things.
Its a directive.
He wants us to be overcomers in our personal lives.
The blueprint is good things, righteous acts.
Loving him loving others..even the unlovely
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