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Post by Gerry on Jun 25, 2006 14:55:22 GMT -5
Hymn writer Gerhard Tersteegen, 1697-1769 was an early 2x2 hymn writer. He wrote Hymns O&N number 95 among others. He hosted meetings in the home, after having eatrlier been an intinerant preacher.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 25, 2006 15:35:33 GMT -5
you left out an important detail...
From TTT:
FOURTH OLDEST HYMN AUTHOR: Gerhard Tersteegen: 1697-1769
Author of: "Come Brothers On" Hymn No. 260/304 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively) and "How Sweet It Is" Hymn No. 211/247 (1951 & 1987 Editions respectively)
The two most famous 18th Century German hymn writers were Gerhard Tersteegen and Joachim Neander. Gerhard Tersteegen was born on November 25, 1697, in Moers, Niederrhein, Germany, and died on April 3, 1769 in Mülheim/Ruhr, Germany. His real name was Dutch: Gerrit ter Steegen, although his name is usually shown as the Germanized “Tersteegen.”
His father abandoned his mother, and Gerhard grew up in poverty. He wanted to study theology, but could not afford an education. He studied at home reading theological books, and became an outstanding lay theologian, lay pastor, and mystic of the Protestant Pietism movement. From 1728 on, he was an itinerant preacher in the Protestant Erweckungsbewegung (“Spiritual Awakening Movement”) in the Niederrhein region, and hosted home worship and prayer meetings.
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Post by jxr on Jun 25, 2006 23:44:25 GMT -5
Hymn writer Gerhard Tersteegen, 1697-1769 was an early 2x2 hymn writer. He wrote Hymns O&N number 95 among others. He hosted meetings in the home, after having eatrlier been an intinerant preacher. The hymn may have been written back then, but O&N, or anything like it, was never published until after the turn of the 20th century. This fact on its own, is telling enough. With a little digging, you can probably find copies of all 20th century editions of O&N, but prior to this, your search would fall into a big black hole.
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Post by guest5 on Jun 26, 2006 11:55:27 GMT -5
So Cherie, are you agreeing that GT was a meeting person? I don't believe he was myself. Just in something close.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 26, 2006 12:48:21 GMT -5
Of course not. There were no F&W meetings when GT was alive.
However, there were hymnbooks before the turn of the 20th century.
In 1913-14, the FIRST 2x2 Hymnbook was printed, titled Hymns Old & New.
In 1450, Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press in Mainz, Germany, followed by the development of movable type in the year, 1454. Before these inventions, books were scarce, and it took months and sometimes years to draft a new book or Bible by hand.
In 1501, what is thought to be FIRST Protestant collection of hymns in the vernacular was published in Bohemia by the Bohemian Brethren.
In 1524, the First Lutheran hymnbook appeared in Wittenberg.
In 1538, the Genevan hymnbook was published by Calvin at Strasbourg, France (Calvin had been expelled from Geneva).
In 1539, the first Dutch hymnbook appeared at Antwerp, titled "Little Spiritual Songs."
In 1539, the first British hymnbook appeared, which was Coverdale's "Goostly Psalmes."
In 1612, Henry Ainsworth prepared a hymnbook (Psalter) in Holland for the Pilgrims' use which they brought with them to America.
In 1640, the first book printed in North America for the English speaking colonies was the hymnbook titled "The Bay Psalm Book," published by Cambridge.
In 1886, The Faith Mission, the FIRST year the Faith Mission started, "From the first year of the work the Faith Mission had its own hymnbook" (Spirit of Revival by I. R. Govan, Chapter 15, page 113). Songs of Victory was compiled by Mr. Bell and published by R. L. Allan, Publisher. Later, the Faith Mission later took over rights to this hymnal and published it themselves
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Post by ilylo on Jun 26, 2006 12:52:28 GMT -5
I figured there was a connection between the history of Faith Mission and why 2x2s use R.L. Allan as the exclusive O&N publisher. Thanks, Cherie.
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Post by RLA on Jun 26, 2006 14:57:28 GMT -5
Is it true that RLAllen publishers are 2x2s and attend conventions there every year?
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Post by ilylo on Jun 26, 2006 19:58:45 GMT -5
Is it true that RLAllen publishers are 2x2s and attend conventions there every year? Doubtful.
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Post by IQ on Jun 26, 2006 23:11:44 GMT -5
Is it true that RLAllen publishers are 2x2s and attend conventions there every year? Possible.
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Post by ilylo on Jun 26, 2006 23:16:20 GMT -5
My response in reply #7 is based on documentation found on the TTT site. I'm sure IQ would back up his comment if he had something on which to base it... but he does not.
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Post by jxr on Jun 26, 2006 23:53:07 GMT -5
Their (R J Allan & Sons) representatives are there though (the F's who distribute the Bibles and HBs)
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Post by allen on Jun 27, 2006 0:18:11 GMT -5
NO mention that R L Allan was a faith missioner or 2x2. His company just published both their hymn books.
I don't remember R L Allan being at convention selling their books but I remember that someone at convention always sold the books that were publsihed by them.
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Post by jxr on Jun 27, 2006 6:52:59 GMT -5
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Post by amazed on Jun 28, 2006 20:33:37 GMT -5
You need a password to order a hymnbook?
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jun 28, 2006 22:11:55 GMT -5
You need a password to order a hymnbook? Yes. Why? To keep them from the wrong hands! I think one time the password was Allan.
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