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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 13:30:12 GMT -5
I remember hearing about this horrible event. Whatever happened to the person who commited this evil event? In jail? This happened before the internet so I wasn't able to read any news events of this horrible tragedy. I even have her picture in a group photo. From what I remember, she was having her 70th birthday party and the people of the home left. An intruder entered the home and killed her while the people of the home were away. I was told that a hispanic did it but I don't know if that was true. Wyoming is a small state with little crime. 15 years have gone by. I hope the killer has been locked up and not released. If he is dead, he will pay for it in the next world.
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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 13:39:56 GMT -5
Is Filiner the correct spelling of her last name?
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Post by truthserum109 on Dec 24, 2008 20:25:56 GMT -5
I remember hearing about this horrible event. Whatever happened to the person who commited this evil event? In jail? This happened before the internet so I wasn't able to read any news events of this horrible tragedy. I even have her picture in a group photo. From what I remember, she was having her 70th birthday party and the people of the home left. An intruder entered the home and killed her while the people of the home were away. I was told that a hispanic did it but I don't know if that was true. Wyoming is a small state with little crime. 15 years have gone by. I hope the killer has been locked up and not released. If he is dead, he will pay for it in the next world. I know some of the friends in Wyoming who still mourn her passing at about the same time of year she was found dead. As for Velma, she is probably in a much better place than most folks. But she has been dearly missed. I wonder if it was pre-meditated murder or a random killing. At any rate; it is a reminder that we are only passing through. TS109
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Post by Sharon on Dec 24, 2008 21:14:08 GMT -5
"I know some of the friends in Wyoming who still mourn her passing at about the same time of year she was found dead. As for Velma, she is probably in a much better place than most folks. But she has been dearly missed. I wonder if it was pre-meditated murder or a random killing. At any rate; it is a reminder that we are only passing through.
TS109 "
The story I heard immediately on the occasion was that it was spec. mtg. time and Velma and another sister worker was visiting one of the lady friend's home as usual for spec. mtg. time. Well, it was on a night that this lady friend always went out for supper and usually at the same time and had done so for some time. Velma was not feeling so well so she declined to go with the other sister worker and the lady friend of the house. There didn't seem to be other family members that lived within the household and that time. But anyway just mins. after the lady friend and the other sister worker left in the friend's car and Velma either made a phone call or she answered the phone a man broke into the house and apparently when he heard Velma on the phone, he got scared that she'd heard something and had called the police, which wasn't the case at all! But in his scared frame of mind, he decided to do away with her and he killed her. It turned out he'd been watching the lady friend leave at that particular time every week and he knew how long she usually was gone. It seemed he was not aware that she had company that night, so he chose to break in. I think they did catch him and I think he went up for life.
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Post by ithascome on Dec 24, 2008 21:23:29 GMT -5
WOW... how tragic!!
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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 21:41:47 GMT -5
A sister worker mentioned something about her 70th birthday. I would love to see a photo of her on the photo gallery of VOT. I wonder if NB knew her when he was in the work??
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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 21:47:33 GMT -5
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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 21:52:42 GMT -5
The house should have been locked.
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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 21:58:14 GMT -5
On November 30, 1993, Marie Bressler celebrated her 81st birthday by going to dinner with her two granddaughters. Bressler's long-time friend, 76-year-old Velma Filener, was visiting Bressler at the time but did not accompany the Bressler party to dinner. Bressler and her granddaughters left the house around 6:15 p.m. Approximately two hours later, Bressler returned to her unlocked and well-lit home and found the body of Filener lying between the laundry room and kitchen. Filener had been stabbed seventeen times, and her body had been dragged from a hallway near the entry of the home to the laundry room. The home obviously had been burglarized. The county coroner estimated Filener's time of death to be between 7:30 and 8:15 p.m.
[¶4] Five months later, 16-year-old Heather Carrillo informed police and counselors at the Wyoming Girls' School that she was involved in the Bressler burglary. At Mares' trial, Carrillo testified that on November 30, 1993, she stole her mother's car and drove Victor Madrid to Bressler's home, where they met Mares and Christine Sievers. After waiting for a car to leave the residence, the four teenagers entered the residence wearing rubber gloves provided by Madrid. Once inside, the teens split up and went to different rooms. Upon hearing a female voice confront Madrid, Carrillo became scared and left the house. Carrillo testified that as she waited in the car, Mares came out of the house, followed by Sievers, and finally Madrid. Madrid was covered in blood.
[¶5] Two other witnesses for the State testified that Mares told them he had been in the Bressler home when Madrid stabbed Filener. Although Mares did not testify at his trial, during an interview with two detectives from the Casper Police Department on June 2, 1994, he confessed to participating in the crime. The detectives testified at Mares' trial. Mares told the detectives that he, Victor Madrid, Christine Sievers, and an unknown female (later identified as Carrillo) entered the Bressler residence with the intent of "doing a little burglary." Mares stated that he was in a back bedroom of the house when he heard what sounded like a woman falling down stairs and screaming. He came out of the bedroom and witnessed Madrid stabbing the victim. Carrillo immediately ran out of the house. Mares and Sievers implored Madrid to leave, but he refused and told them to "just go," and they left the house through the front door. Madrid followed them outside, and then went back inside with Sievers. Mares told the detectives that he returned to the car where Carrillo was waiting. Shortly thereafter, Madrid and Sievers returned to the car and the four left. Mares also told the detectives that Madrid stabbed Filener with a "butterfly knife" which Mares had given Madrid a few days earlier.
[¶6] After a ten-day trial, the jury found Mares guilty of felony murder, aggravated burglary, and conspiracy to commit burglary for his part in the burglary of the Bressler home and the murder of Filener. He received a sentence of life imprisonment for the felony murder conviction, a concurrent term of 20 to 25 years in prison for the aggravated burglary conviction, and a consecutive term of 4 to 5 years in prison for conspiracy. He timely appeals the judgment and sentence.
**From the court document linked in an earlier thread.
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Post by degem on Dec 24, 2008 22:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by rjs on Dec 24, 2008 22:07:01 GMT -5
I think the murderers deserved the death penalty.
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Post by rjs on Dec 25, 2008 10:46:44 GMT -5
In doing a search of her name, I noticed that she was buried at a cemetery in Crawford Colorado. I also noticed that she graduated from Crawford high school in the 1930s.
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Post by pianoman on Dec 27, 2008 8:55:30 GMT -5
Rjs, To quote you; ''I think the murderers deserved the death penalty. '' We are even supposed to have mercy on these creatures. They will get the death penalty in eternity if they don't repent.
Consider: If the worker was saved, she is enjoying eternity, and the killer may find out about God and repent his crime and be forgiven so he may enter into a saved eternity.
God does work in mysterious ways and we need to be loving toward all, regardless.
That is the hardest part but remember, Jesus was murdered too.
Just a thought to remind us of forgiveness and the Supreme Judge.
Peace and love of God to all, Pianoman
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Post by pianoman on Dec 27, 2008 8:58:11 GMT -5
Remember, Moses was a murderer!........Pianoman
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Post by freespirit on Dec 27, 2008 9:00:14 GMT -5
We are even supposed to have mercy on these creatures. pianoman, are you suggesting that society have no boundaries? That we simply let criminals go? freespirit
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Post by ex-teenager on Dec 27, 2008 14:45:28 GMT -5
We are even supposed to have mercy on these creatures. pianoman, are you suggesting that society have no boundaries? That we simply let criminals go? freespirit he is simply stating a fact. We can make our own decisions based on that fact. Do these murderers have a hope of salvation? Yes - Jesus died for them.
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Post by rjs on Dec 27, 2008 15:02:04 GMT -5
There is something about home invasions and murder that seems so cruel.
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Post by Geoff on Dec 27, 2008 15:12:06 GMT -5
"This happened before the internet so I wasn't able to read any news events of this horrible tragedy"
The internet started in 1991, so it wasn't quite before then.
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Post by rjs on Dec 27, 2008 15:20:40 GMT -5
Seems like it was mid 1990s before country folks in rural areas heard about the net.
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Post by rjs on Dec 28, 2008 14:50:15 GMT -5
When someone kills someone else without a cause, it is different than self defense. To me murder during a home invasion deserves the highest punishment out there. Some of your forgivers wouldn't like it if someone killed one of your close relatives without a cause. I think we can carry foregiveness to an extreme.
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Post by rational on Dec 28, 2008 17:11:14 GMT -5
Wyoming is a small state with little crime. Yet, interestingly, Wyoming has a crime rate that compares to New York.
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Post by rational on Dec 28, 2008 17:19:51 GMT -5
"This happened before the internet so I wasn't able to read any news events of this horrible tragedy" The internet started in 1991, so it wasn't quite before then. It was operational and useful in 1983 (as the ARPANET) and the first commercial use began in 1988.
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Post by rjs on Dec 30, 2008 8:17:51 GMT -5
Did Marie Bressler continue to live in this home? Death records indicate that she lived for 11 more years. I would have had nightmares of the stabbing for quite awhile. I guess with time you get over such things. Chances of a repeat are unlikely. Lightning doesn't strike the same place again.
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Post by rjs on Dec 30, 2008 13:49:48 GMT -5
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Post by CherieKropp on Dec 30, 2008 13:57:48 GMT -5
If you find out what happened in the case, I'll be glad to add that info to this account. The articles said the prosecution was seeking the death penalty--but I do not have the newspaper verdict.
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Post by Karyzm on Jun 11, 2011 13:17:43 GMT -5
This was my great aunt. To my knowledge Mrs. Bressler did continue to live in that home. I believe the insurance company made her do some security improvements to the home before she could move back in. Velma was stabbed 17 times... I also would have been happy for the murderer to have had the death penalty. Her body is laid to rest at Crawford, Co about 12 +/- miles from the Hotchkiss, Co convention grounds. She was born and raised in this area and still has a lot of surviving family in the area.
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Post by pinky on Jun 12, 2011 7:15:34 GMT -5
This was my great aunt. To my knowledge Mrs. Bressler did continue to live in that home. I believe the insurance company made her do some security improvements to the home before she could move back in. Velma was stabbed 17 times... I also would have been happy for the murderer to have had the death penalty. Her body is laid to rest at Crawford, Co about 12 +/- miles from the Hotchkiss, Co convention grounds. She was born and raised in this area and still has a lot of surviving family in the area. Sorry about your great aunt.
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Post by Karyzm on Jun 12, 2011 22:07:12 GMT -5
Thank you Pinky
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