|
Post by WINGSfortruth on Oct 24, 2008 9:31:13 GMT -5
Anyone know [name removed]? From Lewiston, MN?
Wings needs to know the following:
Was he one of the friends? Was he born and raised in meetings or was he a latecomer? How long has he been professing? Was he professing in 2007? What is his marital status? children? What is his approx age?
Any other information about this man will be welcome.
admin@wingsfortruth.info
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 17:26:06 GMT -5
I think this is a very bold ignorant post. Is this man being accused? Considering where it comes from and no explanation it appears to be a cause to suspicion possibly the wrong thought. We don't need witch hunters.
|
|
|
Post by bandtroll on Oct 24, 2008 17:36:17 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by degem on Oct 24, 2008 17:39:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't want my real name put on the board and have a whole bunch of questions asked about me.
|
|
|
Post by rational on Oct 24, 2008 17:48:34 GMT -5
Anyone know [name removed]? From Lewiston, MN? Wings needs to know the following: Was he one of the friends? Was he born and raised in meetings or was he a latecomer? How long has he been professing? Was he professing in 2007? What is his marital status? children? What is his approx age? Any other information about this man will be welcome. admin@wingsfortruth.info While I am in full support of any information that can be delivered to instruct and illuminate in an effort to reduce/prevent child abuse, I question this post. With the exception of his age, for purposes of identification, what possible use would the others questions be? Why does this matter? If he has abused children what possible difference could it make? Perhaps I am missing something but what is the value of this in preventing abuse? It sounds very much like a witch hunt. I hope there is an explanation.
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 17:48:45 GMT -5
It 's just another way to spread doubts and hate. I think it's a good way for Wings to lose their effectiveness. More like a Globe or National Enquirer
|
|
|
Post by degem on Oct 24, 2008 17:58:24 GMT -5
I think Wingsfortruth is looking for very personal details about Mr. [removed] that can't be found in the newspaper stories. Why?
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 18:07:29 GMT -5
Dirt diggers
|
|
|
Post by freedonforever on Oct 24, 2008 19:31:37 GMT -5
Oh Oh, I thought no personal names or places could be put out on the board? This being done by the Wings is surely a double standard. Apparently the personal information is only picked by who it is and for whatever and who objects! If you make rules, you must play by the rules, no exceptions!
|
|
|
Post by rational on Oct 24, 2008 19:53:25 GMT -5
I think Wingsfortruth is looking for very personal details about Mr. [removed] that can't be found in the newspaper stories. Why? The question is - why? Just as there would be no value in learning of his shoe size or how he likes his coffee there is no value in knowing if he was B&R, professed yesterday, or had been professing since April.
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 19:58:58 GMT -5
Why is why a question? Are you so blind as to not see the motive of Wings. Is it about healing no It's about revealing. Is it about caring no it's about sharing. Is it about abusing no it's about accusing.
|
|
|
Post by ilylo on Oct 24, 2008 20:05:49 GMT -5
lin,
Premise: CSA does not happen in the 2x2 church.
True or false?
Don't redefine terms. Just answer this premise as it is worded.
|
|
|
Post by peridot on Oct 24, 2008 20:14:54 GMT -5
I don't understand how Lin, Rational,freedonforever, and maybe more can be so upset by a Wings post, haven't they kept a Michigan thread going for months with heresay, and Oh, I know something you don't, and so on.
Wings probably has a reason for posting, it shouldn't bother innocent people, or perhaps there's some guilty people on this board and it really bothers them??
|
|
|
Post by freespirit on Oct 24, 2008 20:16:17 GMT -5
I think Wingsfortruth is looking for very personal details about Mr. [removed] that can't be found in the newspaper stories. Why? The question is - why? Just as there would be no value in learning of his shoe size or how he likes his coffee there is no value in knowing if he was B&R, professed yesterday, or had been professing since April. Rational, there's no telling why people want to know anything. Scott asked me just the other day what I wore to the grocery store. I mean... honestly! Maybe he thought we could wear matching outfits. I dunno. fs
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 20:18:05 GMT -5
Judy That's because you don't understand the motives of certain people. It will be revealed in time. I am sincere
|
|
|
Post by ilylo on Oct 24, 2008 20:19:30 GMT -5
That's because you don't understand the motives of certain people. It will be revealed in time. Vague bull is still bull. I am very sincere.
|
|
|
Post by ilylo on Oct 24, 2008 20:31:37 GMT -5
Hey lin,
Since you're such a noisy know-it-all...
Tell us about the man named in the OP.
|
|
|
Post by peridot on Oct 24, 2008 20:34:46 GMT -5
Judy That's because you don't understand the motives of certain people. It will be revealed in time. I am sincere Lin, I understand peoples motives quite well even when they think they're smart and cutsie with their presentation. I doubt much will be revealed in time, perhaps a few will wake up and remove themselves from the infestation going on in Michigan. You probably are sincere but rather naive.
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 20:36:32 GMT -5
Yes i am naive that people can believe what is not true. I do not tell what I do know.
|
|
|
Post by ilylo on Oct 24, 2008 20:42:21 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by peridot on Oct 24, 2008 20:45:00 GMT -5
Lin, I don't have a problem with Wings posting as they have. If you or your family were abused while going to meetings with the 2x2's you wouldn't have a problem with a group like Wings posting either.
|
|
|
Post by mod4 on Oct 24, 2008 21:25:19 GMT -5
Scott asked me just the other day what I wore to the grocery store. I mean... honestly! Maybe he thought we could wear matching outfits. I dunno. fs kinky
|
|
|
Post by mod4 on Oct 24, 2008 21:33:43 GMT -5
The links to the newspaper articles are fine. Maybe Wings can explain why the name should remain here (obviously if you are seeking information for some valid reason, a name is required). I am not sure I see the validity at this point.
The principle here as in the US must be innocent until proven guilty. There are Christian principles too, the primary one being a purpose for restoration after genuine repentance, if sins (crimes) have been committed within a church community.
Burying our heads in the sand won't help either.
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 21:56:47 GMT -5
I just don't see the validity of throwing names out for the public to surmise. What if that was your name.?
These points are irrelevant and probing. Is this the purpose of Wings to investigate. I thought they advised to let the authorities do this. Did they forget the Mich lesson.
Was he one of the friends? Was he born and raised in meetings or was he a latecomer? How long has he been professing? Was he professing in 2007? What is his marital status? children? What is his approx age?
Any other information about this man will be welcome.
|
|
|
Post by mod4 on Oct 24, 2008 22:03:13 GMT -5
That is exactly the point. But let's hear from Wings in case there's something we're not seeing.
1 Peter 4:8
|
|
|
Post by lin on Oct 24, 2008 22:07:01 GMT -5
OK but I don't think we will know.
|
|
|
Post by mod4 on Oct 24, 2008 22:16:01 GMT -5
I have removed the name (rule 5 below), until I hear more from Wings. That way it won't show up in google links to TMB.
The newspaper links stay.
|
|
|
Post by rational on Oct 24, 2008 22:26:17 GMT -5
lin, Premise: CSA does not happen in the 2x2 church. True or false? Don't redefine terms. Just answer this premise as it is worded. Premise: CAS does happen. The religious affiliation of the criminal is immaterial. Do whatever needs to be done to stop it and mitigate its damage. If, for some reason, the religion of the criminal is needed, the length of time or how they came to their beliefs is certainly not material to the process.
|
|