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Post by a believer on Jun 25, 2006 16:14:55 GMT -5
Bert, the workers group is just a man made religion. The group bears the marks of William Irvine from beginning to end. Self righteousness is common amongst your workers. A man who felt he was right and everyone else was wrong.
Anger is one of the stages when someone has been hurt, betrayed, lied to etc. Your group is not the truth, workers knowingly have lied about their beginning.
The beginning is very important to workers who use the line that we were not started by any man like other churches..... but we were started by Jesus. but when the truth comes out they say it is not important who started it... it's important to them to say no one started it when they want it to be.
They have used the line about who started it for a long time...now suddenly it is not important... it's important until someone finds out the truth
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Post by pamd on Jun 25, 2006 17:51:59 GMT -5
It is the lies about Irvine and Cooney that hide the true reasons for so many of the teachings in the "truth." It was their hatred of the churches at the time that has led to the continued rantings against ALL churches today, not just the other cults ones. It has also led to the self righteousness and isolation of the menbers. It leads to those horrible, hopeless feelings of never being able to measure up that Nitro mentioned. Now that I know the real truth behind these false teachings and have found a wonderful loving church family, who's sole focus is to glorify God and to share His love with all, not just a select few. Oh!! What joy and peace!! I have always loved God, but now I know Him, too. I am truely blessed to have found my way, with His guiding light and strength, out of the pit. Thank you Jesus.
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Post by secret sect on Jun 25, 2006 18:19:47 GMT -5
I read "The Secret Sect" I found it boring! From everything I read I expected it to be incidious and paint the 2X2 in a bad light. It really didn't it was just as far as I gleaned a historical writing of how things progressed. It did not cause me any bitterness or even another moments thought. It took me forever to read it, because it was BORING!
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Post by pamd on Jun 25, 2006 18:36:28 GMT -5
Dear Secret, It sounds as if you were not born and raised in meetings no less than 2x a week learning how the "truth" is the absolute and only truth about Jesus teachings BECAUSE it is the only "way" directly handed down from the "beginning" of the New Testament chruch by Jesus. "All other churches were started by men and lead to a lost eternity."
Actually the 1997 letter and Kathy Lewis' book have been more shattering for me and still more freeing. Cutting loose all of the baggage and garbage from a life time of trying to be a faithful "professing child of God."
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Post by jxr on Jun 26, 2006 1:02:01 GMT -5
I read "The Secret Sect" I found it boring! From everything I read I expected it to be incidious and paint the 2X2 in a bad light. It really didn't it was just as far as I gleaned a historical writing of how things progressed. It did not cause me any bitterness or even another moments thought. It took me forever to read it, because it was BORING! What, so the book didn't live up to the reputation perpetuated from within the F&W? Perhaps most of the the F&W "reviewers" hadn't actually read the text? Hearsay? Rumour? Second-hand information? I'd say this is analogous to how much of the F&W doctrine is developed.
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