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Post by Robb Klaty on Jan 1, 2005 10:59:40 GMT -5
The darkest places and people on earth tend to be those which once burned brightly for the Lord but who have now forsaken their own spiritual inheritance for a mess of culturally relevant pottage. Such is the story of the Netherlands, (which once boasted such great Christian reformers as Abraham Kuyper) last week pushing the envelope of depravity by preparing protocols to protect doctors who murder infant children with congenital diseases, physical disabilities or malformation. Read more about it here: www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42109.
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Dawn
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Post by Dawn on Jan 1, 2005 11:50:37 GMT -5
"The agonising decision is taken, invariably at the pleading of distraught parents, because the infant is born into excruciating pain with life-threatening illness or disability and with little or no prospect of recovery or successful treatment." I'll say it out loud, Robb, "Good for them!" Dawn
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Post by Bertine Louise on Jan 1, 2005 17:31:36 GMT -5
It seems like an act of kindness to me. We rather be practical than dogmatic. Funny how the US slams us for our policies, but we do have less problems problems than them. Is Holland the darkest place with one of the lowest abortion rates in the world? That of the US is much higher. Also our numbers of hard drug addicts and all sorts of drug related problems are much lower. Btw, i happen to study at the uni that was founded by Abraham Kuyper, the Free University in Amsterdam ;D
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Post by Robb Klaty on Jan 1, 2005 21:29:08 GMT -5
Forgive me if I reject the idea of people playing God. Forgive me if I place more faith in the power of God than in the opinions of doctors or beauracrats. Forgive me if I place higher value on the life of children and the elderly than the convenience of the healthy. I am familiar with a situation where a couple refused to remove their baby from life support, despite the doctors insistance that the child had no brain activity and would never be more than a vegatable. That little boy is now a living witness to the power of God and the faith of his parents. Sad that many so called "compassionate" people would have liked to see the little boy left to die because there was little hope that he would be "useful" to society. It is ironic that his life has been more "useful" in the cause for life than anyone could have imagined. www.visionforumministries.org/sections/hotcon/news/002_prayer_for_william.aspRobb
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Post by Dawn on Jan 1, 2005 21:43:48 GMT -5
Forgive me if I reject the idea of people playing God. Sad that many so called "compassionate" people would have liked to see the little boy left to die because there was little hope that he would be "useful" to society. No for anyone to forgive anyone here, friend. Not a matter of "usefulness". Sometimes suffering is unnecessary, and when people are willing to step up to the plate to do the right thing, even when it isn't the popular thing, I give them kudos. Euthanasia is not always the right thing, but sometimes it is. Speaking from experience, Robb, it is not easy to turn off those machines. But sometimes keeping someone alive can be "playing God" as well. Dawn
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Post by Apples on Jan 5, 2005 10:39:28 GMT -5
Forgive me if I reject the idea of people playing God. Forgive me if I place more faith in the power of God than in the opinions of doctors or beauracrats. Can we assume that you would reject all medical intervention that would interfere with the natural course of disease? Forgive me if I place higher value on the life of children and the elderly than the convenience of the healthy. Useful? Is that how the value of a human life is judged? The question is do you think doctors should be playing god or not? As a premature birth should William have been allowed to die or were the doctors right in playing god? apples
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Post by Dawn on Jan 5, 2005 11:54:34 GMT -5
Apples, I have no choice but to agree. Robb's reference to the situation where a "couple refused to remove their baby from life support" says it all, no? Robb is happy enough to have us play God to keep someone alive, but to let them die mercifully instead of painfully, well, how dare we! So clearly it is OK to play God, Robb just wants to be the one to decide when to do so and when not to. Dawn
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