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Post by I Wonder on Nov 13, 2007 10:37:02 GMT -5
What are the Secrets that the F&W's are so afraid of others finding out about that they need to watch out for spies? Do they have some secret rituals that one must go through? OR is it the fact that they just generally diss any who are not in their little group and they do not want any others to know the truth? Humm Why is it that they are afraid of discussion about Divore and Remarriage? Oh yes and why can't you talk about workers--Are the above the eyes of oversite? Seems the group is very afraid of others seeing them for what they are. Berhaps they really do not have the fruits of the spirit and that is why they are hiding? Description This group is for professing Friends and Workers of the Truth and is intended as a place for sharing encouraging thoughts and edifying one another. If you do not profess, this is not the right group for you. The moderator WILL remove those who join this group for spying, transferring information to other boards, posting hurtful messages or otherwise acting in a manner inconsistent with the spirit of this group. There will be NO worker bashing tolerated! Divorce and remarriage is NOT to be discussed. Thanks for your consideration.
The list is unmoderated and reserved for those of likeminded faith. We are here to help each to keep on, keeping on. groups.yahoo.com/group/standingtrue/
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Post by Brick on Nov 13, 2007 11:27:53 GMT -5
I don't know the intent of the words posted on Standing True, but my interpretation is that they do not want contention. All of the things listed have negative connotations. If a person goes to the site for encouragement and inspiration, an argument is the last thing they want find. When I want arguments and confrontation, I come to TMB.
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Post by OH on Nov 13, 2007 11:35:12 GMT -5
I don't know the intent of the words posted on Standing True, but my interpretation is that they do not want contention. All of the things listed have negative connotations. If a person goes to the site for encouragement and inspiration, an argument is the last thing they want find. When I want arguments and confrontation, I come to TMB. I see, so it is the "I am ok and you are OK" Thingy. Even if they are not OK. Two Robbers: One to the other. "I am not a crook", the other responds, "neither am I". They both go away smiling.
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Post by Brick on Nov 13, 2007 12:10:53 GMT -5
I see, so it is the "I am ok and you are OK" Thingy. Even if they are not OK. Two Robbers: One to the other. "I am not a crook", the other responds, "neither am I". They both go away smiling. Something like that. Especially the "go away smiling" part. It's about motivation and encouragement. You would obviously rather be about derision and ridicule. Why do you feel the urge to condemn all those you don't agree with?
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 13, 2007 12:13:52 GMT -5
Howdy Nate, In regards to: We have a Standing True message board where the the friends, the workers, and the exes are welcome to discuss about almost any subject on there as your heart desires. You must abide the message board Term of Service and the administrator's rules. Do you suppose Juli and I would be welcome there to share some of the info we have been getting regarding abusive workers? We would really like to have a place to share some of the names and cover-ups that have happened in the past with people who can make a difference in the future. When did you start letting exes join? Can you let us know what subjects are off limits there? I would really like to join and share some of what I have been getting in my emails. That would be wonderful to have an outlet where we can lay all of this before both workers and elders who can make a difference in your church. If they have issues with using actual names, I will be glad to edit the information just to show a location and time frame. Please let us all know if the STL will allow this to happen. Scott
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Post by Geoff on Nov 13, 2007 12:29:37 GMT -5
I'm on the ST list. I don't think there's any secrets there, none that you wouldn't expect to find.
I don't remember any workers posting there. But there might be some that read? I'd guess those that read the ST list also read the ST board, and perhaps this one too?
Scott, I think you misunderstood Nathan, (or he didn't explain clearly). There are not exes on the ST list, but there are on the ST board.
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 13, 2007 12:37:26 GMT -5
Nate, Can you give me the link to there? It must explain everything on the home page doesn't it? Thanks geoff for the info. I guess I am a bit confused. There is a standing true 'list' and a standing true 'board' Scott
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Post by Gene on Nov 13, 2007 12:40:09 GMT -5
Is the standing true board a split-off from the standing true list? I know there was some contention about the administration of the list -- just wondering if a schism has occured, resulting in a standing true board.... not that it matters, i'm just sayin'....
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Post by ScholarGal on Nov 13, 2007 12:49:04 GMT -5
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Post by Gene on Nov 13, 2007 13:02:11 GMT -5
So is the board actually replacing the list?
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Post by I Wonder on Nov 13, 2007 13:11:03 GMT -5
I see, so it is the "I am ok and you are OK" Thingy. Even if they are not OK. Two Robbers: One to the other. "I am not a crook", the other responds, "neither am I". They both go away smiling. Something like that. Especially the "go away smiling" part. It's about motivation and encouragement. You would obviously rather be about derision and ridicule. Why do you feel the urge to condemn all those you don't agree with? I don't see where I presented derision and ridicule. I asked some questions. They were valid questions. Can not the so called people handle questions related to their professing group? If you imply I ridicule because they ban any discussion about their own group then perhaps that is true. But, then again how can they make statements like keeping "Spies" out. What on earth could they be afraid of to use words like "Spies". If it it all positive edification then what would a so call "Spy" find out. And as to speaking about Divorce. If the ST list is for edification they I would think that Divorce issue should be discussed as many in the group need spiritual edification because they go through divorces.
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Post by gem on Nov 13, 2007 13:21:33 GMT -5
To Nathan9...I just checked out the ST message board.... pretty interesting!
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Post by diet coke on Nov 13, 2007 13:21:39 GMT -5
I am still professing, yet I probably don't belong on the Standing True list, so I don't try to join. But I sure don't see anything wrong with a site dedicated to positive reinforcement and encouragement. Seems to me that topics like child abuse, divorce and remarriage, and sex crimes--as important and necessary as they are--can find some more appropriate place to post, eh?
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Post by gem on Nov 13, 2007 13:25:57 GMT -5
I agree with you "diet coke"....
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Post by Yea Right on Nov 13, 2007 13:26:51 GMT -5
What are the Secrets that the F&W's are so afraid of others finding out about that they need to watch out for spies? Do they have some secret rituals that one must go through? OR is it the fact that they just generally diss any who are not in their little group and they do not want any others to know the truth? Humm Why is it that they are afraid of discussion about Divore and Remarriage? Oh yes and why can't you talk about workers--Are the above the eyes of oversite? Seems the group is very afraid of others seeing them for what they are. Berhaps they really do not have the fruits of the spirit and that is why they are hiding? Description This group is for professing Friends and Workers of the Truth and is intended as a place for sharing encouraging thoughts and edifying one another. If you do not profess, this is not the right group for you. The moderator WILL remove those who join this group for spying, transferring information to other boards, posting hurtful messages or otherwise acting in a manner inconsistent with the spirit of this group. There will be NO worker bashing tolerated! Divorce and remarriage is NOT to be discussed. Thanks for your consideration.
The list is unmoderated and reserved for those of likeminded faith. We are here to help each to keep on, keeping on. groups.yahoo.com/group/standingtrue/ We have a Standing True message board where the the friends, the workers, and the exes are welcome to discuss about almost any subject on there as your heart desires. You must abide the message board Term of Service and the administrator's rules.
We've decided the ST list stays as it was intended by the moderators from the beginning. From the site statment Marriage, divorce and remarriage are not topics for discussion on this StandingTrue Message Board. This was a request from StandingTrue and this is how they operate their email. I will delete any references or questions asked concerning these things in the Truth. Perhaps someday when I get the hang of what I am doing I will consider opening a board expressly for these topics. In the meantime the field is open to any who wish to tackle it. After all it is an area of much confusion and passion amongst most Christian Churches.Why not --- Is this not a real issue with all of Gods Children? Perhaps more discussion will help in less Divorce. The real issue is all the stupid rules of being shut out of participation in the services if you are D&R. There is no standard within the group to support such legalisms so then you block discussions about it.
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Post by Brick on Nov 13, 2007 13:36:17 GMT -5
Why are you questioning this here? If you have issue with it, take it to the moderator/admin of the board. It is his/her rule.
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Post by What on Nov 13, 2007 13:43:40 GMT -5
Why are you questioning this here? If you have issue with it, take it to the moderator/admin of the board. It is his/her rule. Difference is it to you. Is this not a discussion board. Is not this thread about keeping certain discussion out of the exclusive wayers special edification group. I will post what I want. If you don't like the post then skip it.
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 13, 2007 13:44:34 GMT -5
Well, I applied to the Standing True List under the following: The list is unmoderated and reserved for those of likeminded faith. We are here to help each to keep on, keeping on.I think I fall under likeminded faith, if they are referring to faith as it is explained in scripture. I also like the 'keep on keeping on'. Sounds like a place that will welcome bikers with open arms!!!! I'll let you know if I'm accepted to the group. Scott
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Post by do not hold on Nov 13, 2007 14:04:35 GMT -5
I'll let you know if I'm accepted to the group. Don't hold your breath, scott. I tried to join and stated that I am a Christian. They didn't let me in. Apparently they don't see a Christian as being of like-minded faith as themselves. Maybe their faith isn't in Christ?
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Post by diet coke on Nov 13, 2007 14:27:11 GMT -5
Don't hold your breath, scott. I tried to join and stated that I am a Christian. They didn't let me in. Apparently they don't see a Christian as being of like-minded faith as themselves. Maybe their faith isn't in Christ? lol...sorry to laff, this just sounds so funny. Like a little schoolgirl crying because the boys won't let her join the club. What would your mommy say? What do you care what their excuse is? Go form your own club!
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Post by Dont Believe It on Nov 13, 2007 14:53:32 GMT -5
I can tell you one thing and that is you will never get the last word in on the ST list because Nathan9 replies or starts almost everything on there. I didn't know he was the administrator but sure sounds like it. The regular ST site is for the religious fanatics who think everything in the meeting way is perfect and nothing ever goes wrong. Just mention T.S. on ST and the writer will be gone.
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Post by By any other name on Nov 13, 2007 17:12:42 GMT -5
I see, so it is the "I am ok and you are OK" Thingy. Even if they are not OK. Two Robbers: One to the other. "I am not a crook", the other responds, "neither am I". They both go away smiling. I think it could be referred to as a circle jerk.
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