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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 1:55:36 GMT -5
why? i don't know. maybe because they are Satan's now. but i think its only the ones that are not returning to God. some here may be His still, but most arent, that i know. and some never saw the truth, as it is when God reveals it to you, but only saw nice people, but considered the Way of God something of men. those people will rejoice on the last day, inasmuch as they won't be going through what some of you will.... there are some here that saw the truth, knew it was the truth, and have now lost their vision, and believe in something else, whatever that may be, i dont know but its wrong.
anyway, i just wanted to point that out along with the fact that yes, its true, that if you really know, then its ok to say, even when you can't give proof.... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 2:44:22 GMT -5
thats impossible. i havent done coke, i don't like it, have never liked it for what it did to my brother, so there goes that theory. but that is classic propagenda, if you happen to be working for the government, and any intelligent person here can see it, now. and if you don't work for the government, then you just want to be mean and cruel, or why else would you say that? i have never done coke so why would someone say that ? if you really wanted to insult someone, like you make me want to, i stick with the real, such as "you are mean and cruel" or "you're stupid" because then i am not lying. now what was that libel? accusing me of a crimminal offence? TMB reporter, 007libel... accusing me of a crime... ok. i was allowed to speak for admin when you didn't even know this board was going to be up and running.
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Post by Have you seen on Nov 13, 2007 4:19:06 GMT -5
Exes are wicked...
Have you seen what jerry blue has been writing on another thread with his vile language. And apperantly Nathan thinks this type of behavior and language is OK.
So who are the ones showing wicked behavior here....
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 13, 2007 4:30:50 GMT -5
Exes are wicked... Have you seen what jerry blue has been writing on another thread with his vile language. And apperantly Nathan thinks this type of behavior and language is OK. So who are the ones showing wicked behavior here.... ?!?!?!?! there is cussing. but guess what ? sometimes its the ones who are acting so clean that are being the most heartless. so don't play that game with me. you maybe can fool all these people... but i know nice from mean, so just know cussin dont mean sh-. mean and cruel needs cussing at i guess.... or its meant to get it even if it dont.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 4:32:13 GMT -5
couldnt av' said it better myself brother.
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Post by kencoolidge on Nov 13, 2007 7:18:51 GMT -5
I suppose its who you believe 1) That they have left Gods Truth in the earth or 2That they have found Gods Truth outside of the F&WS church
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Post by 3 on Nov 13, 2007 10:22:54 GMT -5
Lonestar:
I'm trying to understand your posts.....
You claim: All ex 2x2's are evil because now they belong to Satan. However , some may still be his (God's). But not all, because some are not returning to God. Some never saw the truth because all they saw was nice people. Some believe in something other than the truth. You aren't sure what that may be but, nevertheless, you do know its wrong.....
How do judge whether a person belongs to Satan or not? How do you judge whether a person may still be God's? How can you claim something is wrong when you don't even know what it is?!
I'm confused.
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Post by I wonder on Nov 13, 2007 11:17:41 GMT -5
I wonder why lonestar is so evil?
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Post by Brick on Nov 13, 2007 11:29:01 GMT -5
Lonestar is so lonely he is responding to his own posts.
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Post by Evil friends on Nov 13, 2007 13:27:02 GMT -5
couldnt av' said it better myself brother. It is not what enters into a man which defiles him, but what comes forth from the heart. Jerry was not just cussing. He was calling his young daughter a dirty skank. He was calling exes a bunch of w hores. And he even made death threats. So now we have 3 current friends who find this type of behavior acceptable: jerry blue, nathan, and lonestar. This type of language and behavior is unacceptable for a person professing knowing JESUS. It shows your spirit is DEFINITELY not in the right place. He shows the wickedness in your heart. I have not been going meeting now for about a year. Before, during, or even after leaving I wouldn't even begin to think this type of language an behavior was in any way, form, circumstance, acceptable in the least. For a Christian or NOT... It is disgusting behavior. VILE WICKED
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Post by Geoff on Nov 13, 2007 14:30:59 GMT -5
Its absolute nonsense to say that all exes are evil - just as much a nonsense to say all 2x2s are exclusive.
These inflammatory remarks are just posted to stir up trouble where it didn't exist.
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Post by diet coke on Nov 13, 2007 14:35:50 GMT -5
Its absolute nonsense to say that all exes are evil - just as much a nonsense to say all 2x2s are exclusive. These inflammatory remarks are just posted to stir up trouble where it didn't exist. I agree with you of course, any reasonable person would, but I also have come to believe that personal experiences are important. We are made up of individuals with personal experiences. No, we shouldn't try to box in an entire worldwide group (f&ws or exes) based on a few stories, that's really goofy, but yes, we should listen and understand the stories of the individuals. There must be an appropriate compromise somewhere.
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Post by TRUTHTELLER on Nov 13, 2007 14:40:34 GMT -5
Proof-----Nathan-----See how you are. You delete the "TRUTH"---- cussing is beside the point. This is the 2x2s in action, delete, deny, blind and etc., etc., etc. So now when one reads the story on your website it is not a "TRUE" story. You guys are good at it, unfortunately, I have family that does the very same thing, they just delete out what does not fit the image of the "truth".
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Post by Commendable on Nov 13, 2007 14:53:47 GMT -5
(I posted above using name evil friends) Nathan I find this a commendable act. I of course do not find most friends evil. As many of the friends are my friends and family and I do love them.
I do find the inflammatory language posted by jerry evil. I think it gives a good insight into why perhaps he is having problems in his family. I think he is toxic, and probably his toxic behavior has had a detrimental effect on his family. Not only do I fear that his behavior is toxic, but the anger he has exhibited in his posts worries me that he may even have the capability of being violent. I just pray this isn't the case.
I also just hope you realize that a person displaying this type of behavior (even with in your "Truth") is not displaying the spirit of Christ. Based on the actions in his thread I would question whether he he even truly a Christians. I am not saying that even Christians do not have there faults, but his behavior goes above and beyond what I would even suspect from a non Christian in this circumstance.
I am glad that you do not agree with this behavior.
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Post by Commendable on Nov 13, 2007 15:10:23 GMT -5
I also would like to state that you should write an article on your web page about the dangers of the internet. I also see no problem with you using jerry as an example (though his situation is pretty mild in comparison to the things which young friends can access). Though I question whether his account is even true.
I just hope that your article is not completely one sided as there are many dangers on the internet that face young friends, especially in there teen years. There are access to so many things on the internet that are a danger.
Most of all you have access to hundreds of people at the touch of a button. Many of which are so much worse then a young girl being given information about the supposed history of the truth (believe what you may.... we all have freedom to make up our own minds). But there are so many other dangers which should be brought to light. There are predators on the internet just looking for naive suscpetable young people including pedophiles, rapists, or just people looking to take advantage of someone unsuspecting. There is also porn.
Myspace and facebook may seem harmless, but these can be avenues used by predators as well. Often time the information given out on these sites can be used to steal ones identity.
If you are going to write an article do not use it as a personal vendetta against exes (as we have freedom of speech which is why America is a wonderful place and people can choose to listen or not listen) but be insightful and warn people about the REAL DANGERS of the internet.
Because there things far worse out there then finding out about the history of TRUTH..... Things out there that can actually destroy you as a person and not just make you question your faith (which isn't so bad as everyone should try what they believe so they now it is truth)
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Post by Commendable on Nov 13, 2007 15:36:50 GMT -5
Maybe so... BUT
I remember being a young adult in my first year of college. Being brought up in the truth I was overly trusting, as I was sheltered from most everything bad growing up. This made me very naive.
Have freedom, access to the internet, etc. and being naive is not a good combination. I wish someone would of told me more about the dangers of the internet 10 years ago. I still think it is a topic that should not be over looked.
I was taken advantage of someone I met over the internet.
So it does happen. Even to good people.
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 6:33:40 GMT -5
Lonestar: I'm trying to understand your posts..... You claim: All ex 2x2's are evil because now they belong to Satan. However , some may still be his (God's). But not all, because some are not returning to God. Some never saw the truth because all they saw was nice people. Some believe in something other than the truth. You aren't sure what that may be but, nevertheless, you do know its wrong..... How do judge whether a person belongs to Satan or not? How do you judge whether a person may still be God's? How can you claim something is wrong when you don't even know what it is?! I'm confused. by trying the spirits..... try it sometime....
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 6:34:35 GMT -5
Lonestar is so lonely he is responding to his own posts. at least i am responding to someone that makes sense. ;D
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 6:50:03 GMT -5
couldnt av' said it better myself brother. It is not what enters into a man which defiles him, but what comes forth from the heart. Jerry was not just cussing. He was calling his young daughter a dirty skank. He was calling exes a bunch of w hores. And he even made death threats. So now we have 3 current friends who find this type of behavior acceptable: jerry blue, nathan, and lonestar. This type of language and behavior is unacceptable for a person professing knowing JESUS. It shows your spirit is DEFINITELY not in the right place. He shows the wickedness in your heart. I have not been going meeting now for about a year. Before, during, or even after leaving I wouldn't even begin to think this type of language an behavior was in any way, form, circumstance, acceptable in the least. For a Christian or NOT... It is disgusting behavior. VILE WICKED wait a minute !!! i didnt read jerry's posts, didnt see the cussing, i was talking about my cussing, in which i was calling people on this board mean and cruel. perhaps jerry is one of these people, but i didnt read the posts....and i think they are gone now. so assuming i condone something i didnt even know about ? don't do it yet, because i was talking about something else. ok?
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 6:52:02 GMT -5
Its absolute nonsense to say that all exes are evil - just as much a nonsense to say all 2x2s are exclusive. These inflammatory remarks are just posted to stir up trouble where it didn't exist. the question is not whether exes are evil.. its "WHY" are they evil?
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Post by Bonnie unlogged on Nov 14, 2007 7:51:47 GMT -5
Lonestar,
I'm so sorry you feel this way. Could it be that the only experience you have with exs are from this board? This site can not be a good representation of either side. You need more world experience to truly be able to make a statement like what you've said.
I left a few years ago. I doubt that any of the friend whom I still love and are friends with would say that I was evil. Maybe they don't believe I'm still saved, but I can't do much about that opionion because that is ingrained in them.
Oh well, I pray that you can see through whatever your looking through, and one day see things differently. I don't know you so I would not even begin to guess if your evil or not, I only have your type written words to decide by.
Kathy
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 8:05:40 GMT -5
maybe if they'd be a little nicer, i would change my opinion. after all i have done to try and help them, and all the times i gave my heart to individuals here, and was in return treated like crap, or at best like spare change, always around, but never thought of until needed, i feel the way i feel. but i am here, always ready to give another chance, as there are many times i need another chance. and maybe the word "exes" was the wrong word. for that i am sorry, but they know who they are. and most are exes. you seem very nice, as Edy and several others are also. too bad they can't all be.
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Post by 3 on Nov 14, 2007 9:23:14 GMT -5
Lonestar:
I have never understood what it means to 'try the spirits'.
Within the context of your response to me, could explain it please?
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 9:43:24 GMT -5
God is love. need i say more?
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Post by gem on Nov 14, 2007 9:54:23 GMT -5
To Nathan9...where do you have "Jerry's" story on your website? I checked out your website just now and don't see any indication where the story is?
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Post by 3 on Nov 14, 2007 9:55:40 GMT -5
Actually, it would help if you would say more....
I'm not dense. I just find that so many people talk 'Christianese' yet aren't on the same page as far as understanding topics.
Your definition of 'trying the spirits' may differ from mine.
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Post by calmrainydaze on Nov 14, 2007 9:57:26 GMT -5
well if God is leading, then i am sure He would teach you how to try the spirits. thats something i can't do for you. if you are showing love, and get treated badly in return, then they are most likely not possessing the Spirit of God.
its pretty simple really. and then there are those that realize what they are doing, and are truly sorry. you can tell kindness, and forgiveness also. its not hard to do.
sometimes it takes a long time for people. thats why mercy is new each morning.
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