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Post by CherieKropp on Nov 9, 2007 22:23:52 GMT -5
A booklet by an Anonymous Author titled A Cunning Cult, is undated (12 Pages); was distributed by: Religion Analysis Service, Robbinsdale, MN may now be read on TTT at home.earthlink.net/%7Etruth444/BRG1-1-6Cunning.htmlCredits to: Lloyd Swanson who asked that it be put on TTT Aussiegal who provided the typewritten text for it.
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Post by heal on Nov 10, 2007 17:18:59 GMT -5
I often think back to my younger days when i never had a clue about the groups history?Really amazing
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Post by heal on Nov 10, 2007 17:21:13 GMT -5
Funny nobody ever told me
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Post by Encourage on Nov 11, 2007 17:25:48 GMT -5
Hi Cherie, I have one of the first copies, yellow cover, of the Cunning Cult. It was interesting and an eye opener.
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Post by CherieKropp on Nov 11, 2007 22:51:36 GMT -5
My copy has a dark red cover.
My copy of "They go about 2x2" has a yellow cover tho
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Post by Austin Powers on Nov 11, 2007 23:43:05 GMT -5
Note the credits.
To post an anonymous article and give people credit is a joke.
Facts not stories please.
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Post by Encourage on Nov 12, 2007 0:05:51 GMT -5
Cherie, I have They Go About Two by Two with a yellow cover as well. The Cunning Cult booklet (yellow) is a much smaller book.
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Post by need to know on Nov 12, 2007 1:03:07 GMT -5
Is this alleged booklet a hateful & bitter bashing of 2x2ism...or is it written with thoughtful & objective purpose? Of course objectivity is probably almost impossible when written in a critical mode. I have read the Secret Sect...and I think that it is reasonably objective and fair in it's historicity...and not just an attempt at bashing.
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Post by Jacaranda on Nov 12, 2007 2:55:48 GMT -5
The book is a biassed view of exiting from the 2x2's. (thats not unusual if its written by someone who felt disavantaged)
It also has inaccuracies, and very local idiocyncracies are portrayed as universal.
It claims the group is antiChristian and Satan led and that noone withing in could possibly be saved.
The book itself takes a very anti-Christian view of things.
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Post by unhappy slave on Nov 12, 2007 3:17:03 GMT -5
A booklet by an Anonymous Author titled A Cunning Cult, is undated (12 Pages); was distributed by: Religion Analysis Service, Robbinsdale, MN may now be read on TTT at home.earthlink.net/%7Etruth444/BRG1-1-6Cunning.htmlCredits to: Lloyd Swanson who asked that it be put on TTT Aussiegal who provided the typewritten text for it. how would anyone know by reading that? another stupid one. if anyone is that interested, they have to meet whoever wrote it, see if they are thwacked or out there.... next.
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Post by heal on Nov 12, 2007 9:20:47 GMT -5
The problem in our society today to make a long story short is folks advocate to read the bible (thats great no problem) but the pastors and ministers seem to do contrary on the other hand...This is the advise I will give anybody in the future who tells me to read the bible..I will say I agree if only folks would do everything would be fine !seems like the pockets getting filled are your clergy eh?Everything is fine with the clergy but folks might be better off staying home with there Internet
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Post by heal on Nov 12, 2007 9:23:53 GMT -5
The two by two's have a saying that the clergy say & do not(I agree with this 2x2 statement) but things did get out of hand with 2x2s later on so they are no differant then all the rest now? patch patch patch
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Post by heal on Nov 12, 2007 9:26:12 GMT -5
A booklet by an Anonymous Author titled A Cunning Cult, is undated (12 Pages); was distributed by: Religion Analysis Service, Robbinsdale, MN may now be read on TTT at home.earthlink.net/%7Etruth444/BRG1-1-6Cunning.htmlCredits to: Lloyd Swanson who asked that it be put on TTT Aussiegal who provided the typewritten text for it. how would anyone know by reading that? another stupid one. if anyone is that interested, they have to meet whoever wrote it, see if they are thwacked or out there.... next. Yes to bad the author went anon..Oh well maybe the author will step up to the plate and take reasponsibility...Does Cherie know who the author is?email me Cherie if you know
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Post by name one on Nov 12, 2007 9:39:08 GMT -5
The book is a biassed view of exiting from the 2x2's. (thats not unusual if its written by someone who felt disavantaged) It also has inaccuracies, and very local idiocyncracies are portrayed as universal. It claims the group is antiChristian and Satan led and that noone withing in could possibly be saved. The book itself takes a very anti-Christian view of things. Since you couldn't be specific in your charges, we'll just understand that you are biased as well. Have a nice day.
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Post by heal on Nov 12, 2007 10:24:50 GMT -5
The book is a biassed view of exiting from the 2x2's. (thats not unusual if its written by someone who felt disavantaged) It also has inaccuracies, and very local idiocyncracies are portrayed as universal. It claims the group is antiChristian and Satan led and that noone withing in could possibly be saved. The book itself takes a very anti-Christian view of things. Since you couldn't be specific in your charges, we'll just understand that you are biased as well. Have a nice day. The author of the cunning cult booklet does seem to be very knowledgable and doctrinally sound which is not your typical 2x2
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Post by yep on Nov 12, 2007 11:22:57 GMT -5
how would anyone know by reading that? another stupid one. if anyone is that interested, they have to meet whoever wrote it, see if they are thwacked or out there.... next. Yep... yer thwacked. next.
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Post by CherieKropp on Nov 12, 2007 11:27:07 GMT -5
No, I do not know who the author is--
nor does Religion Analysis Service who originally bot it and distributed it. (They have changed hands/managers several time since then, and have lost the records)
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Post by heal on Nov 12, 2007 13:34:02 GMT -5
No, I do not kow who the author is-- nor does Religion Analysis Service who originally bot it and distributed it. (They have changed hands/managers several time since then, and have lost the records) Cherie do you know if the author is still alive...I wish they would step forward if they see this thread
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Post by Geoff on Nov 12, 2007 15:33:54 GMT -5
The narrative in this tract about the workers "feet" is so unrepresentative of the normal that its verging on ridiculous.
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Post by heal on Nov 13, 2007 9:06:44 GMT -5
The narrative in this tract about the workers "feet" is so unrepresentative of the normal that its verging on ridiculous. To Geoff Come to think of it Geoff I have heard the saying
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Post by Geoff on Nov 13, 2007 12:35:36 GMT -5
Lloyd,
I didn't say it was unheard of, or never said, or imaginary. Just not representative.
Its must be a tiny minority of people who say this nonsense.
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Post by truthfully on Nov 13, 2007 14:02:09 GMT -5
Truthfully, geoff, you can only claim that it's not representative of your location.
Just as you argue that generalizations cannot represent the entire group, generalizations to the contrary are also hindered by the same restriction.
It's good of you to admit that these things do happen in the 2x2 church. Shame that so many 2x2s do nothing about it.
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Post by Geoff on Nov 13, 2007 14:20:49 GMT -5
Truthfully, geoff, you can only claim that it's not representative of your location. Just as you argue that generalizations cannot represent the entire group, generalizations to the contrary are also hindered by the same restriction. It's good of you to admit that these things do happen in the 2x2 church. Shame that so many 2x2s do nothing about it. You make a valid point "truthfully". But which location shall I speak of? Having spent a significant time in 9 countries in 3 continents in 2 hemispheres..... And visited (to a degree to have some undertanding of) many more... But we all do this to some extent. We take our surroundings and assume the world is the same. Its not. Neither are 2x2s, despite what some say. For example, I've been at a convention where any form of alcohol was "wrong", and another where the senior worker offered me a beer at cleanup. I don't see that as a problem though. But to the topic. This book suffers greatly from this effect of local experience. Its just wrong and misleading to paint a picture that ones experience is representative of the whole. I know this personally. I'm not representative at all, but used to think I was!
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