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Post by Hmmmmmm on Oct 12, 2007 7:24:54 GMT -5
In Gore's acceptance speech for his Nobel Peace Prize he said this: "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity."
Forget the crisis issue, lets just say it is for the sake of discussion, how does this become a moral and spiritual issue?
Maybe I am just spiritually challenged!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 7:34:46 GMT -5
We like to be "moral" and "spiritual." The trouble is, each generation redefines what is moral and spiritual to suit its own purposes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 7:47:21 GMT -5
Environmentalism has become, for a small segment of society which Gore caters to, a religion. Or at least a psuedo religion. Watch the committed environmentalist movement carefully and you will see that it has most of the earmarks of a religious movement. I'm not suggesting that mankind should not care about the environment, all reasonable people should and Christians should view themselves as good husbands of the earth. However, the extreme environmental movement exists in the realm of a form of spiritualism. In Gore's acceptance speech for his Nobel Peace Prize he said this: "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity." Forget the crisis issue, lets just say it is for the sake of discussion, how does this become a moral and spiritual issue? Maybe I am just spiritually challenged!
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Post by Hmmmmmm on Oct 12, 2007 8:30:51 GMT -5
clearday,
"Environmentalism has become, for a small segment of society which Gore caters to, a religion. Or at least a psuedo religion. the extreme environmental movement exists in the realm of a form of spiritualism."
Yes we all need to be conscious of the environment, but isn't this paganism?
It is all becoming clear now... it isn't about their political agenda... it is all about their religion. That is why they hate our conservative Christian views so much... they don't focus on their god, and their god (mother earth) doesn't condemn them in any way for any thing except she condemns others for their abusing her. They want her to stay pure. It is ok for them to abuse her because they love her but they don't want anyone else who doesn't worship her to use her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 8:51:28 GMT -5
clearday, "Environmentalism has become, for a small segment of society which Gore caters to, a religion. Or at least a psuedo religion. the extreme environmental movement exists in the realm of a form of spiritualism."
Yes we all need to be conscious of the environment, but isn't this paganism? It is all becoming clear now... it isn't about their political agenda... it is all about their religion. That is why they hate our conservative Christian views so much... they don't focus on their god, and their god (mother earth) doesn't condemn them in any way for any thing except she condemns others for their abusing her. They want her to stay pure. It is ok for them to abuse her because they love her but they don't want anyone else who doesn't worship her to use her. Interesting view on the environmental "religion", can't say I disagree. Thanks. Paganism is probably a reasonably close descriptor of it and there is certainly some twisted thinking coming out of it, as you point out.
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Post by timber on Oct 12, 2007 9:48:42 GMT -5
Al Gore is a politician and will always be a politician. Of course he would throw in words like moral and spiritual to try and widen his acceptance with people. But wise people such as those posting in this thread,know to question what he means by moral and spiritual. Or, could it mean that Al doesn't have a scientific leg to stand on regarding global warming so has to appeal in a different way.
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Post by Sylvestra on Oct 12, 2007 10:27:32 GMT -5
In using the term "moral and spiritual" in this instance, is to make those outside the "environmental religion" feel guilty enough to join up also. Edy
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Post by juliette on Oct 12, 2007 10:53:34 GMT -5
I would agree that this is a moral issue. Like anything else in our society, the results of mistreating our world often hit the least fortunate first. For example; there are areas around major pollution sources where health problems abound... and what do you know... those areas are populated by people with little financial resources (and the children suffer the most). And there are inner city schools where a majority of the kids have asthma... induced by the poor air quality. And then their is the question of what are we passing down to our children... our polluted mess?
Spiritual... I think that's a pretty big stretch. Like many have said before on this thread, people use this word in different ways. I personally think that this earth is a temporary gift from God to mankind. And it provides us so many wonderful examples of his power and majesty. So I think we should treat it with respect. But this world is temporary, like our natural bodies, so I can't see how it has much to do with our eternal souls.
Just my two cents. And for the record, I'm a bit of a fan of Al Gore.
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Post by my2cents on Oct 12, 2007 14:19:20 GMT -5
I just can’t get too excited over the Nobel Peace Prize especially after Yasser Arafat won it for his efforts to create peace in the Middle East"
I think Arafat walked the talk about peace about as much as Gore walks the talk about global warming.
As far as how does this become a moral and spiritual issueI agree with Sylvestra “In using the term "moral and spiritual" in this instance, is to make those outside the "environmental religion" feel guilty enough to join up also”
Juliette, Gore will need all the “fans” he can get. But I have a feeling he will use the air conditioner instead in his 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville
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