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Post by Admin on Oct 9, 2007 21:49:54 GMT -5
Administrator: Someone was looking today for the original post on Tim Severud (started by me). I think that eventually people started posted other names on this thread, so I'm wondering if it is in the locked portion of this board. If it is, is it possible to remove the offending posts from this thread and put it back on the main board? Thanks! Juli Here is the original post by Juliette: Child Molestation - Minnesota « Thread Started on 25 Aug, 2007, 5:50pm »juliette Royal MemberTimothy (Tim) Severud was arrested approximately two weeks ago and is currently in jail in Alexandria, MN with the charge of Second Degree Sexual Assault of a Child under the age of 13. People wishing to verify this information can call the Douglas County Sheriff's office at 320-762-8151. The lead investigator in the unit is Dave Ahlquist. The case file number is 21-CR-07-1050. Tim Severud is a worker in Minnesota who has been beloved and trusted by parents and children. As a worker, he of course had constant access to children while staying in the homes of people within the 2x2 fellowship. In addition, his playful nature and interest in children earned him the trust of many families, so he spent more time alone with children than most workers. The victims in this case were female children [deleted]. If your children have spent time alone with Tim (as mine did) I urge you to immediately talk to them about the time they spent with Tim to determine if they were victims of molestation. It goes without saying, that any crimes should be reported to the authorities in your area. From what I have learned, there has been no systematic notification of families about this matter within the 2x2 fellowship. This situation breaks my heart, and I can't begin to imagine what these children will face in their lives because of this. Tim is the last person I would have suspected of this, but looking back and reading about pedophiles, the signs were there. It's a lesson to me to be vigilant and continue to teach my children about safety. « Last Edit: 25 Aug, 2007, 6:08pm by juliette »
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 9, 2007 22:57:53 GMT -5
I wanted the whole thread, but , OH WELL, -----I have been on the board since 01-2007. Just recently I have been ask for some info, and have tried to help and all is missing, so just forget it, I will help others,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, some other way..........................................................I know some one who was "MOLESTED BY [deleted]" and I have been trying to help them and help them to share their story, (to help theirself and help others) and help all of the rest of us, this ain't the whole thread,................................................................................THIS IS NOT THE ENTIRE THREAD, AND YOU KNOW IT, OH WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CENSORSHIP AT WORK!
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Post by Admin on Oct 9, 2007 23:02:44 GMT -5
I wanted the whole thread, but , OH WELL, -----I have been on the board since 01-2007. Just recently I have been ask for some info, and have tried to help and all is missing, so just forget it, I will help others,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, some other way................................................................................THIS IS NOT THE ENTIRE THREAD, AND YOU KNOW IT, OH WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CENSORSHIP AT WORK! WHATEVER you need to read the important notice re libel at top of the board: IMPORTANT: This board is back because we have given a commitment that no libellous posts will be allowed here. ProBoards inform that this includes all posts that contain names or even initials of living people about whom criminal allegations are made. It is a tricky area. We will make mistakes. Admin will err on the side of caution. You are our eyes and ears, inform admin of your concerns and ultimately ProBoards are the final arbiters.Either we all agree to comply with ProBoards rules on this, or they shut the board. The vast majority want the board alive and are willing to accept the ProBoards constraints. It is not my decision, nor any other individual's. admin
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Post by IN THE KNOW on Oct 9, 2007 23:08:46 GMT -5
I know some who are interested in sharing their story, but , we are not sure how to go about presenting all of it with all of the riff-raff going on. I am trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are coming forward, but then backing off when they see how this works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on, I have people lined up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 9, 2007 23:15:15 GMT -5
OK, That is fair, but we all know who IH, stands for, COME ON, initials have been used all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 9, 2007 23:25:57 GMT -5
TELL ME WHERE I CAN GO AND INSTRUCT OTHERS TO GO FOR HELP WITH 2X2 MATTERS WITHOUT CENSORSHIP? Like I said, I have been on here for awhile, but I have some people who have,(JUST THIS VERY DAY) inquired for some help, so, I am trying to do the best I can do, and I seem to have landed in a sh- HOLE. You know what , I FEEL LIKE I AM IN MEETING AGAIN, EVERYONE, ANYONE, EVERYBODY, ANYBODY IS SCREAMING IN MY EAR! I think I need to find another board, can someone direct me to another source,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by I MEAN on Oct 9, 2007 23:29:59 GMT -5
I mean, like, omigod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a valley girl!!!! and uses all those exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tubular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 9, 2007 23:48:14 GMT -5
NO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I did not<<<<<<<<<<< I used commas<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,,I am mad as an old wet hen. OR I AM SO MAD I COULD EAT NAILS, the one time I need some help and I am censored or ------------------- I LOOK A DAMN FOOL, I DIRECTED SOME PEOPLE TO THIS WEBSITE TO GET THE HELP THAT I KNOW THEY NEED AND I GET TREATED LIKE A ( DELETE) I cannot believe this,,,,,,,,,,,, It is no different than when I went to meeting , KICK EM WHEN THEIR UP, KICK EM WHEN THEIR DOWN, (They ain't the ones with the money)
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Post by freedom on Oct 9, 2007 23:52:55 GMT -5
Hey, calm down. Sure it's upsetting that the thread you want is deleted. But isn't that better than the entire board being gone? There is still LOTS of help on this board. Just start reading.
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Post by Scott Ross on Oct 9, 2007 23:55:23 GMT -5
Lots of people are willing to help with legitimate concerns you may have. You can email me at: bescottross@aol.com Or you can become a registered member of the board which lets you send PM's (private messages) to other registered users. Scott
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 10, 2007 0:07:27 GMT -5
The entire board could be gone for all I care...............I needed some help, it was not there like it use to be, the one time I need it. OH WELL. It is OKAY, ...........
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 10, 2007 0:11:43 GMT -5
Scott, I appreciate you very much, but, what if I trust you, and in the meantime you pm others and tell them who I am???
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 10, 2007 0:24:47 GMT -5
The name that was deleted was the name of a dead man, AKA , HORACE BURGESS, AKA, CHILD MOLESTER.
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 10, 2007 0:29:12 GMT -5
The above post is an absolute fact, from more than one witness. The perp is dead so we are not LIBEL.
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Post by WHATEVER on Oct 10, 2007 0:43:34 GMT -5
OK, I NEEDED SOME HELP, I DID NOT GET IT. MAYBE I WENT ABOUT IT ALL WRONG? ? NOT, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I HAVE BEEN ON HERE TO LONG FOR THAT,,,,,,,,,,,I GUESS IT WAS JUST A BAD NIGHT,,,,,,,,COUGH, COUGH, COUGH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YEAH, RIGHT. I KNOW ONE THING,,,,, I WILL NEVER----------------NEVER-------------NEVER--------------------EVER----------------EVER----------DIRECT----ANOTHER TO THIS SITE EVER--------EVER-EVER AGAIN.................... GOOD-NIGHT.
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2007 1:35:32 GMT -5
OK, That is fair, but we all know who IH, stands for, COME ON, initials have been used all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHATEVER, thanks for your response. This issue makes lots of us not just mad but VERY ANGRY and we are trying to work out the most appropriate ways of dealing with these emotions while (absolutely first priority) doing everything possible to protect all other children from such evil. It may be that we are not dealing with all this as well as we can and should, and so all suggestions (and cries for help) are very much needed. There are people who you can trust. I believe Scott to be one. If as he says, you register (totally confidentially, you have my word) probably some of those people who are working very hard on this issue will contact you (by Personal Message - PM) which is still strictly anonymously (unless you wish to divulge more). If you contact me personally, I will do what I can to help (eg. suggest people for you to contact). Also it is possible that I can provide access to some of the posts in the quarantined thread, if you contact me and are able to point me in the specific direction. I cannot reinstate the whole thread that you refer to, without violating ProBoards' rules (which they strictly police). But I can help you personally in many ways. And I pledge that you can trust me absolutely. admin
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Post by Scott Ross on Oct 10, 2007 8:26:57 GMT -5
Howdy, In regards to: I know some who are interested in sharing their story, but , we are not sure how to go about presenting all of it with all of the riff-raff going on. I am trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are coming forward, but then backing off when they see how this works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on, I have people lined up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Yes... there does appear to be some riff-raff going on here doesn't it? and: Scott, I appreciate you very much, but, what if I trust you, and in the meantime you pm others and tell them who I am??? Well now..... That is certainly a good and legitimate question. If I were to do that then I guess I would lose a lot of trust on this board now wouldn't I? Sometimes the only way to find out if someone is trustworthy is to... well... trust them. If you do have someone who wants some help, you will have to pick someone willing to help, and then you can start out by creating a new email account which doesn't link back to your regular email account, and doesn't identify your name. Correspond with that person and get a feel for how they react to your information, and then try to build trust. The only way to do that is through communication. There are some who post on this board that I wouldn't trust to baby sit a rock. There others who post here that I would share anything with. It might amaze you to know some of the people I find trustworthy here. Some are professing and some are exes. Sometimes the information you share may not seem as if it is credible or provable, but it matches with other information from another source. There is an example now of a worker where the information I got although a not solid sounding fact, led to an old request from a woman asking for help concerning this same worker who had molested her son and at least one other young man back in the 1970's. Same information and scenario, but separated by about 3 decades. What do you wanna bet that there is probably something else out there during those 3 decades? In the current situation, do you want to speculate as to whether the parents were told something about it being a sudden lapse, and one time thing which should be forgiven? In the womans case in the '70's, she was asked to keep it quiet, and the worker was transferred to another field. Wonder how many times this has happened? Scott To the administrator: In regards to: It may be that we are not dealing with all this as well as we can and should, and so all suggestions (and cries for help) are very much needed.You are doing a great job. Don't envy you a bit, but I sure do appreciate what you are doing for us all. Here's a suggestion though..... Go take a nap and relax. Maybe someone will come mow your lawn for you while you are sleeping....
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Post by juliette on Oct 10, 2007 10:30:14 GMT -5
MANY of us on this board know Scott to be a man of his word. I would have absolutely no qualms about going to Scott for help and telling him who you are.
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Post by ScholarGal on Oct 10, 2007 10:51:18 GMT -5
Scott, I appreciate you very much, but, what if I trust you, and in the meantime you pm others and tell them who I am??? I think you can trust Scott not to reveal your personal information. If you want to get a good feel for someone's character before sending them sensitive information, try this: - Click the person's username on the left and take a look at the profile.
- Scroll down to the Recent Activity section.
- Where it says "View ___ most recent posts", Enter a large number like 50 or 100.
- Click Submit, take a deep breath, and read what the person has said recently.
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Post by FREE2BEME on Oct 10, 2007 11:30:51 GMT -5
The following is just my 2 cents for what's worth......I am not a member of this board..but for the last several weeks I have been reading the threads /posts ....I have even gone back to page 120 or whatever /read the posts..IMO I feel that there are some who you can TRUST ...and I believe one of them is Steve Ross..another Juliette.....and I have come to this conclusion by reading over their posts...they come across as helpful.. caring people who have been instrumental in bringing much needed info to others..I also believe the administrator is someone who you can trust...this person is doing the best job she can without the board being shut down..If I was in the situation that others are in right now with the molesting of children by whoever or whatever..I would ask them..I am glad to be aware of what is going on because we have a 13 year old daughter and go to meetings..Have a wonderful day everyone!
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Post by ll on Oct 10, 2007 12:01:49 GMT -5
No matter how things sound on Internet I just can't see workers sending everybody a letter...I think it just ain't happening maybe one or two related letters sent out but never to all friends in that state
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Post by FREE2BEME on Oct 10, 2007 16:02:44 GMT -5
I apologize ;)I meant to say Scott Ross instead of Steve Ross about who you could trust...
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Post by Scott Ross on Oct 10, 2007 18:44:46 GMT -5
I have a cousin named Steve. He's pretty trustworthy too! Scott
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Post by FREE2BEME on Oct 10, 2007 18:58:22 GMT -5
;)Actually Scott...I DO know a Steve Ross...that's why I wrote
it down in a prior post and then I got too thinking hey wrong
Ross!The Steve Ross I knew of was from New York state
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Post by Scott Ross on Oct 11, 2007 14:46:21 GMT -5
My Steve lives out in Washington state.
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Post by mrw1964 on Oct 11, 2007 22:13:26 GMT -5
Scott, I appreciate you very much, but, what if I trust you, and in the meantime you pm others and tell them who I am??? WHATEVER, I understand you concerns of trust. I will say that if your desires to help others is this strong, then you must trust someone. Also, I will say that IMO, Scott is a very good start.
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Post by A host of Rosses on Oct 11, 2007 22:24:29 GMT -5
I have a cousin named Steve. He's pretty trustworthy too! Scott I used to know Rosses in NY Donald, Anna ... he was a highway engineer I believe.
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Post by Poor advice on Oct 11, 2007 22:31:39 GMT -5
Scott, I appreciate you very much, but, what if I trust you, and in the meantime you pm others and tell them who I am??? I think you can trust Scott not to reveal your personal information. If you want to get a good feel for someone's character before sending them sensitive information, try this: - Click the person's username on the left and take a look at the profile.
- Scroll down to the Recent Activity section.
- Where it says "View ___ most recent posts", Enter a large number like 50 or 100.
- Click Submit, take a deep breath, and read what the person has said recently.
This is not a reflection on Scott. I can show you a number of posters who are upright, caring and wonderful when posting under their registered name but when posting as an unregistered guest they are people that you would not trust with a used newspaper. Things are not always as they seem.
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