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Post by shushy unlogged on Oct 7, 2007 6:50:26 GMT -5
[It may seem like we decided, but as we grow spiritually, we learn "no man comes to the Father unless the Father draws him." (John 6:44) This word "draws" is the same word used to describe the fish Peter caught with his net. When we truly discover "grace through faith, a gift" then we realize we never "decided" to follow anyone. Our Father even provided the "so-called" decision for us. He decided for us. ]
Finally, someone has noticed this scripture.
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Post by kevineicherii on Oct 9, 2007 11:40:35 GMT -5
Hey Johnny, I haven’t read the TMB much for a long time, so I wasn’t real familiar with GIT. After reading this thread, I think I know who this guy is. Several years ago, someone named “Jeremiah prophet of God” or something like that burst on the scene at the PMB with all the self-righteousness and pompousness that he displays here; Same language, same spirit, same country even. Someone here called him “Jason” and I think that is correct.
As I remember it, he was sent packing, not once, but several times. Then, I believe the workers became aware of what he was doing, and he got spanked, and never came back there. I’m pretty sure he’s back now under a new name, it sounds like he needs another spanking.
If you stick around long enough, there really is nothing new under the sun.
Kevin
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Post by timber on Oct 9, 2007 15:18:51 GMT -5
I think GIT may be a bit of a romantic. The fellowship as he describes it is nothing like I know it. First of all, I doubt that very many of the workers or friends would know who the church fathers are, or would appreciate an icon hanging around. You may be sitting on the fence in fact GIT, leaning toward the Catholic side. Stating that membership in the fellowship is synonymous with salvation seems very similar to the Catholic statement of there being no salvation possible outside of the church. Nothing wrong with being a Catholic, by the way..
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Post by shushy on Oct 9, 2007 16:23:41 GMT -5
[Then, I believe the workers became aware of what he was doing, and he got spanked, and never came back there.] LOL...yeah? ? thats funny.
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Post by definition of GIT on Oct 9, 2007 21:50:40 GMT -5
Definitions git noun 1. derog, slang A stupid or contemptible person. from www.allwords.com
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Post by gloryintruth on Oct 10, 2007 18:49:17 GMT -5
After reading this thread, I think I know who this guy is. Several years ago, someone named “Jeremiah prophet of God” or something like that burst on the scene at the PMB with all the self-righteousness and pompousness that he displays here; Same language, same spirit, same country even.
I sincerely repent of my earlier posts under this name. You are absolutely correct. I was self-righteous, pompous and thoroughly disgusting in my arrogance. I have no reason to deny it.
As I remember it, he was sent packing, not once, but several times. Then, I believe the workers became aware of what he was doing, and he got spanked, and never came back there. I’m pretty sure he’s back now under a new name, it sounds like he needs another spanking.
All of this - all of it - is entirely untrue. I say this with feeling: as God is my witness, there is no truth in this statement at all.
If you stick around long enough, there really is nothing new under the sun. Kevin
I take it that you're more interested in personalities than issues. Now that really is old.
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Post by gloryintruth on Oct 10, 2007 18:52:04 GMT -5
I'm assuming the proposal for a formal debate flounders on the rocks. Although I'm disappointed, it was not unexpected: but what conclusions should an impartial observer draw when one sectarian side is willing and able to defend their beliefs on the basis of the Bible, and the other side (which, like so many religions, claims superior revelation) cannot.
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Post by passive on Oct 10, 2007 19:13:57 GMT -5
I'm assuming the proposal for a formal debate flounders on the rocks. Although I'm disappointed, it was not unexpected: but what conclusions should an impartial observer draw when one sectarian side is willing and able to defend their beliefs on the basis of the Bible, and the other side (which, like so many religions, claims superior revelation) cannot. your passive aggressiveness is noted
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Post by nitro on Oct 10, 2007 19:14:20 GMT -5
Git what do you want from us ? I have asked you a question and you can't answer that . Are you looking for a debate with the likes of Rob,Dennis,or Zorro?
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Post by gloryintruth on Oct 10, 2007 19:18:16 GMT -5
Git what do you want from us ? I have asked you a question and you can't answer that . Are you looking for a debate with the likes of Rob,Dennis,or Zorro?
I'm sorry Nitro. I may have missed your question. Could you please repeat it so I can give you an answer?
Thanks.
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Post by more of the same on Oct 10, 2007 23:39:57 GMT -5
I sincerely repent of my earlier posts under this name. You are absolutely correct. I was self-righteous, pompous and thoroughly disgusting in my arrogance. I have no reason to deny it. Same leopard. Same spots.
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Post by and thus on Oct 10, 2007 23:41:58 GMT -5
I'm assuming the proposal for a formal debate flounders on the rocks. Although I'm disappointed, it was not unexpected: but what conclusions should an impartial observer draw when one sectarian side is willing and able to defend their beliefs on the basis of the Bible, and the other side (which, like so many religions, claims superior revelation) cannot. Yup. Passive aggressiveness in the flesh. GIS is expert at it.
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Post by kevineicherii on Oct 11, 2007 14:38:56 GMT -5
“I take it that you're more interested in personalities than issues. Now that really is old.”
Jason, you have been at this thing for a long time. What you seem to be incapable of seeing is that in this context, on this board, and with these topics, your personality is the issue. Not that it is good or bad, but that it is over powering. You can’t seem to get out of the way of your self, and you wind up discrediting the very beliefs you seek to defend.
You may not be able to see the “why” of this, but surely you can see the fact of it.
Another one of the advantages of having been around for a while is that I have seen peoples ability to change. You say you have changed, that’s great, keep changing. You will know you are gaining ground when you finally get into a discussion that doesn’t become about you.
Until then, we all have much to say, but saying it to you is not worth the trouble.
Kevin
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Post by amen to that on Oct 11, 2007 15:53:51 GMT -5
Until then, we all have much to say, but saying it to you is not worth the trouble. Amen to that!! I start reading GIS's diatribes and get a headache after just 2 or 3 lines.
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Post by gloryintruth on Oct 11, 2007 20:20:09 GMT -5
Jason, you have been at this thing for a long time. What you seem to be incapable of seeing is that in this context, on this board, and with these topics, your personality is the issue.
Ironic given my frequent efforts to steer conversation onto issues. My personality should be surely immaterial, for no-one can furnish a scrap of evidence to show in what ways I am so mightily objectionable, even when I have challenged others to do so that I might apologise if I have erred. It is not my personality that is the issue, friend. It is what I represent - what I AM. I am a "hardcore 2x2" (a label I actually like, by the way, and view as a compliment) but that is enough for most.
Not that it is good or bad, but that it is over powering. You can’t seem to get out of the way of your self, and you wind up discrediting the very beliefs you seek to defend.
Take a walk on the google-search boardwalk and look up the debates I have engaged in on this very forum regarding Purgatory, Homosexuality and the Gnostic Gospels of Peter etc. and you will see your statement is quite untrue. It does not behoove you to make such sweeping statements without first investigating my contributions on this board.
You may not be able to see the “why” of this, but surely you can see the fact of it.
I see neither. I do not interact on this forum any differently than I have interacted with others on other theological forums. I have been on friendly terms with many Muslims, Pagans, Atheists and Agnostics. It is only amongst the exe community that I encounter extreme hate-speech, as does Bert and Nathan and WTBWG (though she is not professing).
Ironically, when exes have difficult personalities, a plethora of excuses is made for them and their attract their own little band of disciples. Hell and brimstone rhetoric always gets a few extremists onboard - I have been called a devil worshipper, a worker worshipper, an anti-christ, an occultist, a son of Beelzebub, a NAZI, hellbound, lost, doom, non-christian, arrogant, I have been told I am "fuked", I have been called a "waste of space" and told that I Glory In Self. (Among other things!) Given this constant stream of hate, you can sorta imagine that it makes an impact eventually.
You will know you are gaining ground when you finally get into a discussion that doesn’t become about you.
It always becomes about me. But not because of me. Look at all the posts I contribute - the ones that are not personal defences, I mean. And you will see that inevitably there is some anonymous jerk who can't resist casting judgement and making outrageous statements.
Until then, we all have much to say, but saying it to you is not worth the trouble.
Says an individual who blazes onto the forum describing me as being "spanked by the workers".
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Post by Sylvestra on Oct 11, 2007 20:31:13 GMT -5
[It may seem like we decided, but as we grow spiritually, we learn "no man comes to the Father unless the Father draws him." (John 6:44) This word "draws" is the same word used to describe the fish Peter caught with his net. When we truly discover "grace through faith, a gift" then we realize we never "decided" to follow anyone. Our Father even provided the "so-called" decision for us. He decided for us. ] Finally, someone has noticed this scripture. Dear Shushy, To add what you posted here (the decision of salvation is made for us), I would add that I understand that the word "draw" is actually "drag" in the original language. This, to me, emphasizes even more that actually we don't have a choice. Interestingly, this was quite evident in the experience of Paul on the road to Damascus, wasn't it! Best regards, Edy
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Post by GIT never on Oct 11, 2007 21:28:37 GMT -5
If you want to see an example of humility, don't look to GIT.
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Post by kevineicherii on Oct 11, 2007 23:20:40 GMT -5
psst Nate!
It's me Kevin, posting under my real name.
You remember me from back in the days when I used to bang on you for shooting in the dark.
Jasons reply only underscores my point.
I will let both of you stew for a few more years.
You can have your message board back now.
Later,
Kevin Y
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Post by eicherz2 on Oct 12, 2007 8:05:20 GMT -5
Jason, you have been at this thing for a long time. What you seem to be incapable of seeing is that in this context, on this board, and with these topics, your personality is the issue.Ironic given my frequent efforts to steer conversation onto issues. My personality should be surely immaterial, for no-one can furnish a scrap of evidence to show in what ways I am so mightily objectionable, even when I have challenged others to do so that I might apologise if I have erred. It is not my personality that is the issue, friend. It is what I represent - what I AM. I am a "hardcore 2x2" (a label I actually like, by the way, and view as a compliment) but that is enough for most. Not that it is good or bad, but that it is over powering. You can’t seem to get out of the way of your self, and you wind up discrediting the very beliefs you seek to defend. Take a walk on the google-search boardwalk and look up the debates I have engaged in on this very forum regarding Purgatory, Homosexuality and the Gnostic Gospels of Peter etc. and you will see your statement is quite untrue. It does not behoove you to make such sweeping statements without first investigating my contributions on this board. You may not be able to see the “why” of this, but surely you can see the fact of it.I see neither. I do not interact on this forum any differently than I have interacted with others on other theological forums. I have been on friendly terms with many Muslims, Pagans, Atheists and Agnostics. It is only amongst the exe community that I encounter extreme hate-speech, as does Bert and Nathan and WTBWG (though she is not professing). Ironically, when exes have difficult personalities, a plethora of excuses is made for them and their attract their own little band of disciples. Hell and brimstone rhetoric always gets a few extremists onboard - I have been called a devil worshipper, a worker worshipper, an anti-christ, an occultist, a son of Beelzebub, a NAZI, hellbound, lost, doom, non-christian, arrogant, I have been told I am "fuked", I have been called a "waste of space" and told that I Glory In Self. (Among other things!) Given this constant stream of hate, you can sorta imagine that it makes an impact eventually. You will know you are gaining ground when you finally get into a discussion that doesn’t become about you.It always becomes about me. But not because of me. Look at all the posts I contribute - the ones that are not personal defences, I mean. And you will see that inevitably there is some anonymous jerk who can't resist casting judgement and making outrageous statements. Until then, we all have much to say, but saying it to you is not worth the trouble.Says an individual who blazes onto the forum describing me as being "spanked by the workers". GIT, my friend.... try NOT to waste your energy, and time with anonymous posters. Why? You are in the open... the anonymous is hiding in the dark! you, me, Bert, WTBWG are BIG targets to shoot at... people know who we are but WE don't know who this hit-run anonymous poster is... He/she is hiding in the dark alley shooting his/her arrows! at us in the dark. Talking about a scary cat. Nathan... it must be late for your bedtime! Not only is the above poster (Kevin Eicher) registered but he has been for years under his own name. You can research that one but perhaps tomorrow after you've had a little sleep. BTW - GIT is still pretty much anonymous. We know his name might be Jason, Jeremiah the Prophet or now GIT but do we really know where he is from and what his real name is? Get some sleep dude. Sherlene Eicher from Iowa...
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