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Post by las logged out on Aug 21, 2006 13:03:35 GMT -5
why do ex2x2s end up in baptized church I believe the head of MM is also in Baptized church
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Post by GuestS on Aug 21, 2006 13:53:48 GMT -5
What's a "baptized church" ??
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Post by a believer on Aug 21, 2006 15:22:31 GMT -5
I think he means Baptist Church.... Also I think he means why do MANY ex2x2s end up in Baptist Churches. The head of MM is in a Baptist Church, or do you mean a former head worker?
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Post by las logged out on Aug 21, 2006 16:59:30 GMT -5
I think he means Baptist Church.... Also I think he means why do MANY ex2x2s end up in Baptist Churches. The head of MM is in a Baptist Church, or do you mean a former head worker? Yes sorry I misspelled it it is Baptist?Just wondering why so many ex's find there way over to the Baptists
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Post by you must be new on Aug 21, 2006 18:30:38 GMT -5
What's a "baptized church" ?? you must be new to the board.. otherwise you would know what everyone else does.. that las can't type or put together a coherent thought..
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Post by ithascome on Aug 21, 2006 21:18:22 GMT -5
How many ex2x2s are in a Baptist Church?
Baptist do what Jesus told us to do in the Great Commission and that is to go and make disciples of all nations. Baptists have always championed evangelism. IMO
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Post by just me on Aug 21, 2006 21:38:04 GMT -5
How many ex2x2s are in a Baptist Church? Baptist do what Jesus told us to do in the Great Commission and that is to go and make disciples of all nations. Baptists have always championed evangelism. IMO I would agree with this assesment. Another possiblilty is that generally speaking, Baptist churches are bible believing and bible teaching churches, meaning that they teach FROM the BIBLE. A few other denominations, not so much
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Post by Jessi on Aug 22, 2006 22:23:23 GMT -5
I liked the idea of Bible teaching and preaching. I needed something strong and God knew this. He made my heart willing to accept strong preaching and strong doctrine. The Holy Word, straight up. But the "once saved always saved" thing followed me from the cult. I didn't like it nor understand it -- but always heard the phrase in a mocking tone from F&W.
When I came to understand the doctrine (not by that name) as laid out in the Bible, preached from a "verse by verse exposition" pulpit, I got it. But after grasping the doctrine of election (which is tied very soundly to "once saved always saved" biblically, I couldn't reconcile Free Will with being Forever Saved --
because I knew that I could not in my own power keep myself from falling. And yet, Jesus promised ETERNAL life.
So, salvation is none of me and all of God and I am saved for HIS Name's Sake, not mine (I Jn 2:12) so I will not pollute His name (Ezek 36:22). He is a great God who saves for His glory and my salvation is but a by-product of His glory, the glory of the Cross.
Christ's Forever, Jessi
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Post by eurp on Aug 23, 2006 1:44:13 GMT -5
I can think of 7 ex Baptists that are now members of the 2x2s. Guess there's a 2 way traffic?
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Post by Jessi on Aug 23, 2006 16:47:28 GMT -5
They're both of Armenian thinking in the "free will" sense and maybe the "you can lose your salvation" sense. They are very . . . reserved. That's what sort of drew me to Faith Bible. They didn't mess around. The difference was, of course, verse by verse exposition. I have NEVER heard a worker do verse by verse exposition or camp out in the book of John for five years. EURP:
I am reformed Baptist (election, not free will), and my doctrine is based on the REFORMATION period (and a little before it) when Luther split from the Catholic Church--(1300s-1600s) - John Wycliffe, John Huss, William Tyndale, Martin Luther, John Knox, John Calvin, etc.
The blood of these martyrs gave me the Bible in my mother tongue, no thanks to the Catholic Church. All praise be to God and their deaths to His eternal glory - that I can carry a Bible in my heart language on my person at all times.
If I had a chance to examine the 7 ex-Baptists face to face, I wonder if I'd find that they study the Bible very much or very little. The case with most who get sucked into cults (not B&R)seems to be the latter. Those who grow up in the F&W tend to search for ammunition, using one verse (or a parable) to load an entire doctrine . . . and they usually camp out in the NT.
This is just an observation from a lifetime of questioning and contending with the F&W.
Christ's Forever, Jessi
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Post by ithascome on Aug 27, 2006 0:17:30 GMT -5
Makes me wonder how strong a Baptist they were.
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Post by wondering on Aug 27, 2006 8:37:00 GMT -5
What is MM?
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Post by lloydswanson on Aug 27, 2006 10:00:25 GMT -5
...Makes me wonder how strong a Baptist they were. ...
makes me wonder how strong some 2x2s were that left them.
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Post by ithascome on Aug 27, 2006 13:01:19 GMT -5
makes me wonder how strong some 2x2s were that left them I think many ex2x2s were strong believers. I think it took me about 15 years before I finally let go of 2x2 beliefs. For the longest time I felt that some day I would go back. It was the Baptist church that helped me see what being saved meant. The Good News was truly good news.
Being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ. (Philippians 1:6)
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Post by a believer on Aug 27, 2006 14:39:29 GMT -5
I have never heard of any exBaptists professing in meetings but I know of at least 8 who have left meetings in the last 10 years and now go to the Baptist church. I can also hardly count even 7 'outsiders' coming to meetings and professing in the last 10 years, let alone Baptists.
How long ago did those Baptists profess in meetings eurp?
There does not seem to be much 2 way traffic with hardly any one at all joining meetings except for those who grow up in them.
How many outsiders have professed in your meetings in the last 10 years eurp.
In our city there are about 500 professing, in one Baptist church down the road there are 500 in one congregation and there are 3 Baptist churches in our area alone. There would be at least 2,500 attending a Baptist church in our city. So is it 2 way traffic?
I rarely see anyone from other churches joining meetings.
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