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Post by happily going on Aug 16, 2006 16:39:06 GMT -5
today i leave for convention and i am very happy to be going.
oh, i have read all about william erving and all of the other things that everyone has said about the truth.. but that definitly wont keep me from going. for one, whatever happened with william erving doesnt affect me. secondly, i like the way we worship and i have yet to see anything close to better.
many pple on this board have this "dream" of educating all of the current 2x2s about the history. but what they fail to see is that many pple know. it doesnt discourage them or bother them.
it is for this reason the 2x2 will continue.. i can safely say it will continue past all of our lifetimes.
i am off to convention learn about the lord. and very happy about it.
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Post by Simple on Aug 16, 2006 16:56:47 GMT -5
So, in other words....................You have heard the truth and choose to ignore it? You like worker propaganda mixed in with your food and thats that. Some day you might actually need some help from God though. The workers will not do you much good on that day.
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Post by _ on Aug 16, 2006 17:05:09 GMT -5
today i leave for convention and i am very happy to be going. oh, i have read all about william erving and all of the other things that everyone has said about the truth.. but that definitly wont keep me from going. for one, whatever happened with william erving doesnt affect me. secondly, i like the way we worship and i have yet to see anything close to better. many pple on this board have this "dream" of educating all of the current 2x2s about the history. but what they fail to see is that many pple know. it doesnt discourage them or bother them. it is for this reason the 2x2 will continue.. i can safely say it will continue past all of our lifetimes. i am off to convention learn about the lord. and very happy about it. The history is a minor point... What is important is the teachings and doctrines... So what will you do when you hear false doctrines at convention... will you be happy about it?
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Post by Amazing on Aug 16, 2006 17:28:27 GMT -5
Well finally someone in the 2x2s has the grit to be honest about their group.
"many pple on this board have this "dream" of educating all of the current 2x2s about the history. but what they fail to see is that many pple know. it doesnt discourage them or bother them."
The "truthers" are not bothered or discouraged by their untruth. They are content with it.
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Post by aww on Aug 16, 2006 17:31:57 GMT -5
Well finally someone in the 2x2s has the grit to be honest about their group. "many pple on this board have this "dream" of educating all of the current 2x2s about the history. but what they fail to see is that many pple know. it doesnt discourage them or bother them." The "truthers" are not bothered or discouraged by their untruth. They are content with it. awww yes.. your version of reality is the only one. you should be king ruler of the world.. because how you see everything is the only way that is right.
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Post by a believer on Aug 16, 2006 17:34:12 GMT -5
So you have heard that William Irvine was considered a false prophet by those who converted through him and yet you choose to follow in a group started by a false prophet.
When I hear of others going to convetion it makes me so glad that I am free.... free to follow Jesus for who he is and not a group. Convetions are more about the group and not the Lord.... bear in mind that conventions were started by what the workers consider false churches......
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Post by the difference on Aug 16, 2006 17:52:43 GMT -5
So you have heard that William Irvine was considered a false prophet by those who converted through him and yet you choose to follow in a group started by a false prophet. When I hear of others going to convetion it makes me so glad that I am free.... free to follow Jesus for who he is and not a group. Convetions are more about the group and not the Lord.... bear in mind that conventions were started by what the workers consider false churches...... the difference between me and you is i dont try and belittle you for how you want to believe. i am happy for you and respect your choice. i am not going to make snide comments about your lifestyel. i would like that same respect in return. but i know i wont get it.
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Post by Simple on Aug 16, 2006 18:00:03 GMT -5
So you have heard that William Irvine was considered a false prophet by those who converted through him and yet you choose to follow in a group started by a false prophet. When I hear of others going to convetion it makes me so glad that I am free.... free to follow Jesus for who he is and not a group. Convetions are more about the group and not the Lord.... bear in mind that conventions were started by what the workers consider false churches...... the difference between me and you is i dont try and belittle you for how you want to believe. i am happy for you and respect your choice. i am not going to make snide comments about your lifestyel. i would like that same respect in return. but i know i wont get it. But you will go and listen about how everyone but the 2x2's is a lost cause......................?
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Post by and you on Aug 16, 2006 18:04:20 GMT -5
But you will go and listen about how everyone but the 2x2's is a lost cause......................? and i clearly wont get the respect from you either.
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Post by auisix on Aug 16, 2006 18:07:37 GMT -5
August 17-20, 2006 Shoals, IN USA Altamont, NY USA Yellow Springs, OH USA Saginaw #1, OR USA Downings, VA USA Milltown #2, WA USA Olympia #2, WA USA
Have a GREAT convention!!!
Will you hear Jesus is God? Will you hear salvation by grace, works following? Will you hear love your neighbor-and then bash the other churches? Will you hear about how all the other churches waste money on buildings-while you sit in an air conditioned cow barn, with carpeted floor, sitting on padded folding chairs, eating on disposeable plates with plastic utensils, listening to workers who flew in from various countries, wearing well made suits with new ties, bought with credit cards paid for by well meaning, innocent people.
I'll be you'll hear about the humble way, the lowly way of the workers.
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Post by aero on Aug 16, 2006 21:37:45 GMT -5
August 17-20, 2006 Shoals, IN USA Altamont, NY USA Yellow Springs, OH USA Saginaw #1, OR USA Downings, VA USA Milltown #2, WA USA Olympia #2, WA USA Have a GREAT convention!!! Will you hear Jesus is God? Will you hear salvation by grace, works following? Will you hear love your neighbor-and then bash the other churches? Will you hear about how all the other churches waste money on buildings-while you sit in an air conditioned cow barn, with carpeted floor, sitting on padded folding chairs, eating on disposeable plates with plastic utensils, listening to workers who flew in from various countries, wearing well made suits with new ties, bought with credit cards paid for by well meaning, innocent people. I'll be you'll hear about the humble way, the lowly way of the workers. Correction: Downings, VA does NOT have air conditioning... here's a fun idea: Lets go sit in a building with NO A/C in VIRGINIA in the MIDDLE OF AUGUST. Its amazing more people don't drop dead of the heat... ah, and for more fun, lets cook bad food, and then sleep on moldly foam mattresses in more non-airconditioned buildings... brilliant! That sounds like my idea of a good time... Seriously folks, there is a better way to have a "convention"... at a CONVENTION CENTER...
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Post by bowhunter on Aug 16, 2006 21:40:16 GMT -5
You haven't read enuff about Wm.'Erving' to know how to properly spell his name! ;D
I used to look forward to conv-until the last one I attended and God showed me that He had a better plan for me and my little family. I hope He can use convention to show you what Truth REALLY is!
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Post by justamom on Aug 16, 2006 21:55:32 GMT -5
Have a wonderful convention...... some of my family is off to conventions for the next two weeks....
Have a great one...
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Post by a believer on Aug 16, 2006 22:23:36 GMT -5
So you have heard that William Irvine was considered a false prophet by those who converted through him and yet you choose to follow in a group started by a false prophet. When I hear of others going to convetion it makes me so glad that I am free.... free to follow Jesus for who he is and not a group. Convetions are more about the group and not the Lord.... bear in mind that conventions were started by what the workers consider false churches...... the difference between me and you is i dont try and belittle you for how you want to believe. i am happy for you and respect your choice. i am not going to make snide comments about your lifestyel. i would like that same respect in return. but i know i wont get it. You came on here with an attitude and looking for a reaction putting down exes then you turn around and attack those who do respond. Take the mote out of your own eye. I've heard many workers attack people's lifestyles not to mention other Christians. Maybe you should speak to workers about attacking people's lifestyles and who attacked yours. You flaunted it looking for responses. You insult my God when you call your gorup the truth. Please respect my belief that Jesus only is the truth. Many people know about the history but how many know about William Irvine. All that I have spoken to have never heard his name and they have been in for many years. And to say that it doesn't bother them when they find out about him is not correct. It does bother many who leave when they find out that they have been lied to about the group having no earthly founder like other groups. Some in your group are honest enough to leave when they find out the truth about their group.
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Post by eurp on Aug 16, 2006 23:44:11 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting how many want to change the doctrine of another? Doesn't matter where they start from, they want to get others to agree.
If an Irvineite, they want others to follow that. If an anti - Irvineite - same. If almost anything else - they'd like others to support them in their belief.
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Post by so on Aug 17, 2006 15:57:50 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting how many want to change the doctrine of another? Doesn't matter where they start from, they want to get others to agree. If an Irvineite, they want others to follow that. If an anti - Irvineite - same. If almost anything else - they'd like others to support them in their belief. so is the way of human pride
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Post by Better Boy on Aug 17, 2006 16:53:46 GMT -5
The history is a minor point... Funny how time heals wounds because not too long ago when I found out about the history I was ready to go postal on some people over the history coverup! Kansas conventions are soon here and I know this is going to happen if I go, any suggestions?
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Post by bonnie unlogged on Aug 17, 2006 17:16:34 GMT -5
I am glad that you get to go to convention knowing what you do.
Relatives of mine spoke to another one about how it was just the devil that pulled me away. And when they were told that I had learned this way wasn't from the begining of course they just scoffed. Now I pray for these people who go to convention, condem me for not, and don't even know the true story.
Kathy
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 17, 2006 17:48:24 GMT -5
Does it really matter what people want?
No.
What matters is that you're doing God's will. So, if God is telling you to be somewhere, go some place, do something... do it... no matter what others say.
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Post by just me on Aug 17, 2006 18:17:14 GMT -5
today i leave for convention and i am very happy to be going. oh, i have read all about william erving and all of the other things that everyone has said about the truth.. but that definitly wont keep me from going. for one, whatever happened with william erving doesnt affect me. secondly, i like the way we worship and i have yet to see anything close to better. many pple on this board have this "dream" of educating all of the current 2x2s about the history. but what they fail to see is that many pple know. it doesnt discourage them or bother them. it is for this reason the 2x2 will continue.. i can safely say it will continue past all of our lifetimes. i am off to convention learn about the lord. and very happy about it. I hope you enjoy yourself. Ya know just cuz you dont agree with someone else's point of view, doesnt make em wrong, or right, just different. When the time is right, GOD will open your eyes to HIS truth, wherever you may find it.
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