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Post by Peace on Aug 14, 2006 21:16:47 GMT -5
Hi, I have decided to register on this board because I have had much experince with the 2x2 fellowship. Have experienced benefits from being a part of it --------- and have experienced much pain and stupidity from some also. All the same my feelings today range from feeling compassion for those who in simplicity are doing the only thing they know to do. To struggling with anger at those who should know better and who not only don't but seem to resist feeling after what surely the Holy Spirit would like to reveal to everyone. I still participate with the fellowship, although I do not get closely involved. But I want to remain to fed people on the Christ and love my neighbor as myself. ----- After all I was once as hardnosed as alot of them and ONLY through the Grace of God was I enlightened to "see" the Great Love and Compassion the Creator has toward all of Creation. I feel the judgement we await on That Great Day will be one of great surprises to all fundmantal Christians (and I speak of those within and without the fellowship we are all so familiar with). My great hope is we who have at best become disillusioned and at worst excommunicated, (both have happened) can enjoy the Spirit of Christ between ourselves and in the process maybe inspire not only ourselves but also our brothers who at best have a human view of worship and fellowship with their Creator and at worst are Pharisee's and hypocrites in their own right (even as I have been). I am aware though some of us have been so abused there is no reasonable reason to assume their Creator would burden them with needing to reach out to their persecutors. (Mr. Massey comes to mind. I feel for you in your situation Edgar) As a friend of mine once said, "sometimes the ONLY thing we CAN do is walk away and leave people to themselves". Jesus did this from time to time. Anyway, I feel as though this has gotten long enough for now. I hope to meet people who are alive and spiritually healthy. As for myself, my spirituality does not rely on going to meeting and adherring to laws riles and traditions; in fact to consider how the Blest Creator judges those far removed from the influences of corporate Christianity is for me a deep and revealing subject to consider. When it's all done and over maybe some of the most spiritually mature will come from these more "simple" realms!!?? With all the Best to everyone.... (I look forward to speaking openly regarding who I am and with a photo too!!! But at this point I feel it wisest to meet each person where their at, (on and off this board) and in light of the many within the fellowship I know I feel it best to remain fairly discreet, as many of them are not as liberal with their love and compassion as I am. And by the way I find liberal to be a GOOD word!!! Peace ;D
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Post by Simple on Aug 14, 2006 21:31:16 GMT -5
Hi, I have decided to register on this board because I have had much experince with the 2x2 fellowship. Have experienced benefits from being a part of it --------- and have experienced much pain and stupidity from some also. All the same my feelings today range from feeling compassion for those who in simplicity are doing the only thing they know to do. To struggling with anger at those who should know better and who not only don't but seem to resist feeling after what surely the Holy Spirit would like to reveal to everyone. I still participate with the fellowship, although I do not get closely involved. But I want to remain to fed people on the Christ and love my neighbor as myself. ----- After all I was once as hardnosed as alot of them and ONLY through the Grace of God was I enlightened to "see" the Great Love and Compassion the Creator has toward all of Creation. I feel the judgement we await on That Great Day will be one of great surprises to all fundmantal Christians (and I speak of those within and without the fellowship we are all so familiar with). My great hope is we who have at best become disillusioned and at worst excommunicated, (both have happened) can enjoy the Spirit of Christ between ourselves and in the process maybe inspire not only ourselves but also our brothers who at best have a human view of worship and fellowship with their Creator and at worst are Pharisee's and hypocrites in their own right (even as I have been). I am aware though some of us have been so abused there is no reasonable reason to assume their Creator would burden them with needing to reach out to their persecutors. (Mr. Massey comes to mind. I feel for you in your situation Edgar) As a friend of mine once said, "sometimes the ONLY thing we CAN do is walk away and leave people to themselves". Jesus did this from time to time. Anyway, I feel as though this has gotten long enough for now. I hope to meet people who are alive and spiritually healthy. As for myself, my spirituality does not rely on going to meeting and adherring to laws riles and traditions; in fact to consider how the Blest Creator judges those far removed from the influences of corporate Christianity is for me a deep and revealing subject to consider. When it's all done and over maybe some of the most spiritually mature will come from these more "simple" realms!!?? With all the Best to everyone.... (I look forward to speaking openly regarding who I am and with a photo too!!! But at this point I feel it wisest to meet each person where their at, (on and off this board) and in light of the many within the fellowship I know I feel it best to remain fairly discreet, as many of them are not as liberal with their love and compassion as I am. And by the way I find liberal to be a GOOD word!!! Peace ;D Welcome aboard matey. Since you like the word liberal, would you mind sitting on the left side of the boat? How about sharing a story of revelation? How about sharing a story of salvation? How about sharing a story of what Jesus has done for you personally?
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Post by Peace on Aug 14, 2006 21:45:07 GMT -5
Welcome to the TMB, Peace. Now don your asbestos underwear. White Rabbit, It's so good you've got me pegged. And I'm happy to hear from you. Regarding the asbestos underwear, did you get your pair from JC Penny's? ----------- It's all ok people will do what they will do. And ultimately they will have to live with themselves both now and eternally. Meanwhile I have the priviledge of having a thousand different experiences and laughing my way through at least half of them. See ya WR, and stay in touch... by the way hows KS?
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Post by selah on Aug 14, 2006 21:48:37 GMT -5
Dear Peace,
Welcome here! I enjoyed what you wrote and appreciate your tender tone. It's not hard to see the love of Christ in your post. I'm looking forward to hearing and learning from you.
Blessings, Linda
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Post by Peace on Aug 14, 2006 21:49:29 GMT -5
Welcome aboard matey. Since you like the word liberal, would you mind sitting on the left side of the boat? How about sharing a story of revelation? How about sharing a story of salvation? How about sharing a story of what Jesus has done for you personally? Hi Simple, I would love to but man do you really want an epistle? Just kidding... in time but not tonight. It would be good to hear a story from you also though. See ya
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Post by Peace on Aug 14, 2006 21:59:31 GMT -5
Dear Peace, Welcome here! I enjoyed what you wrote and appreciate your tender tone. It's not hard to see the love of Christ in your post. I'm looking forward to hearing and learning from you. Blessings, Linda Thanks Linda and likewise to you. Your posts in many threads do not go unnoticed. May we both be inspired through each other. By the way it is sooo reassuring to hear that someone can "feel" the love of Christ in our lives, especially when it is through nothing more than a electronic post on a digital bulletin board in cyber-space.) Thanks Linda. (that is a powerful testimony) Whups... I almost used my name......... See ya (maybe in person some day)
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Post by just me on Aug 17, 2006 18:32:55 GMT -5
Hello
Welcome aboard
I find it interesting that you still "fellowship" with your friends in the 2X2's, YET do not do the meetings or follow their doctrine. ( unless I misread your post)
As per many posts on this board, YOUR situation truly seems to be unique.
The above is simply an observation, nothing more, nothing less
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Post by Peace on Aug 19, 2006 21:37:00 GMT -5
Hello Welcome aboard I find it interesting that you still "fellowship" with your friends in the 2X2's, YET do not do the meetings or follow their doctrine. ( unless I misread your post) As per many posts on this board, YOUR situation truly seems to be unique. The above is simply an observation, nothing more, nothing less Hello Just Me, No problem. Your observation is probably quite accurate. Although I do still fellowship with the friends just not to EVERY meeting and CERTAINLY do NOT subscribe to the exclusivity of the fellowship and it's traditions as doctrine. I do however, see them as Christians with their own set of challenges and doubts just as so many other groups of Christians have. - I feel compassion for them and love them as I love others who I know not. This is a trait of the Nature of the Christ who I proclaim to believe in and follow. I only hope more and more people will come to not only an understanding of true doctrine but even as indwelling of that Spirit which will raise us up to dwell, live and interact with our fellow human beings in a way that is divine and Godly and not sinful and human. Thanks for your recognizing of my compassion towards the fellowship. I will however mention as I did in another post, I believe there are people who have been sooo abused by the fellowship the Spirit has simply cleansed them from having to deal with the people who have hurt them so grievously. If you (just me) would be willing to share a litle about where you are at in relation to the fellowship I would certainly enjoy hearing. I feel your ability to percieve where I'm at lets me know you are a person who "see's" beyond the surface. It's that kind of vision which we need in order to meet this world and it's needs in a way which will be profitable to them and us. All the best to you "just me" and write again. ---- Peace
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Post by Sylvestra on Aug 19, 2006 21:55:04 GMT -5
Welcome, Peace! I'm not able to get here very often anymore because of the added responsibility of taking care of both my parents now, and Dad in the hospital this past week! However, I look forward to reading what you offer us -- we can certainly use all the "peace" afforded us Best regards, Edy
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Post by just me on Aug 19, 2006 22:22:01 GMT -5
Hey Peace Methinks there may be a person or three who may not share your opinion about me being able to "see beyond the surface", but thats just cuz I irritated me by offering my views in a les than compassionate way I am not nor have I ever been a part of the "truth" or whatever its going by now, I was linked to this site by an aquantinence, looked around, saw some interesting posts and thought to myself "self, we can have a lil fun here" I am a Christian, and even though I grew up going to Sunday School and Church ( in a real building no less ;D ) I never really "got it" till bout 7 1/2 years ago when during my divorce I walked through the doors of the church I still attend and was warmly greeted by people who genuinly cared. A few short weeks later GOD got ahold of me and, well, while life aint always grand, IT SURE beats having NOTHING to help me through the rough times. I will never forget the words that convinced me to try church again after being away for nearly 10 years " It cant hurt!! "
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Post by Really on Aug 20, 2006 9:56:23 GMT -5
"Peace" is always welcome. What is your definition of "fundmantal Christians"? How long were you a 2x2? What other churches have you experienced? Really
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Post by las logged out on Aug 20, 2006 10:01:35 GMT -5
You don't need brown underwear here
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Post by SPaced on Aug 20, 2006 10:38:08 GMT -5
Thanks SPace Peace You're sounding good and normal! Tell us more!
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Post by recentarriver on Aug 21, 2006 19:42:22 GMT -5
Hey Peace Good to see you're here too. I've discovered that words and by default thoughts may be dissected by some. Oh well...it seems we are all here with an assortment of reasons and needs. I first came here in severe anger & disbelief. Wanted to be reassured that everyone felt the same pain I was going through. ( And I am finding it). At first I was embarrassed by all the gossip and sniping. Somehow my sense of humor kicked in and I do enjoy a chuckle now & then. But there are tears too as I recognize the terrible pain & sorrow of others. It's good for me to see that we are all on a spiritual journey as individuals with our Creator and here is an opportunity for me to enjoy the spirit of Christ in others. I have been inspired many times in my 5 months reading this board. I appreciate everyone here ! ( even those I may not agree with ). Happy Trails, RA
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Post by Peace on Aug 22, 2006 12:19:53 GMT -5
"Peace" is always welcome. What is your definition of "fundmantal Christians"? How long were you a 2x2? What other churches have you experienced? Really Hello Really, I think the dictionary definition of fundamental works pretty well in this situation. 1: serving as an original or generating source 2: of or relating to essential structure, function or facts: (radical) There are many "fundamental churches" one of the common traits between them is they all are "back to the Bible people" and they attempt to imitate or follow the Bible to the letter so to speak. Often resulting in very judgemental mentalies amongst themselves towards not only people outside their group but even towards one another within the particular group. Concerning my own background: I was born and raised within the 2x2 fellowship. I spent several years in rebellion to the bondage I was raised in. I then spent a few years in the work. During which time the Lord opened my eyes to MANY wonderful things pertaining to Him, His nature and His work. I for years didn't believe in the whole "we are from the beginning" testimony. But I came to believe things far beyond all that. 1. Things such as how God judges and doesn't judge. 2. How God works and doesn't work. 3. How God views the world. 4. How we sometimes think God views the world. 5. How people grow into revelation 6. How we as humans try to force people into revelation. 7. The nature of true evangelism vs. fundamental evangelism. And I could go on and on and on... but I won't. Concerning other churches... I have attended many churches as an interested party, who was weighting the spirits present amongst different people in different situations. But never became a "member" of any church outside of the 2x2. ------ Perhaps more importantly is the years I have spent with cultures outside of corporate Christianity. Not foreign nations... but rather everything from Hippies to Bikers, and when I include the fact I was born and (mostly raised) amongst 2x2 christianity I have been exposed to a pretty broad cross-section of humanity on this Earth. --------- The result of which has left me with a measure of understanding and a flood of compassion towards many different people in many different situations. I hope this answers your questions. And that your day is beyond good. Thanks and c u later... ------------ Peace
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Post by Peace on Aug 22, 2006 12:37:42 GMT -5
Hey Peace Methinks there may be a person or three who may not share your opinion about me being able to "see beyond the surface", but thats just cuz I irritated me by offering my views in a les than compassionate way I am not nor have I ever been a part of the "truth" or whatever its going by now, I was linked to this site by an aquantinence, looked around, saw some interesting posts and thought to myself "self, we can have a lil fun here" I am a Christian, and even though I grew up going to Sunday School and Church ( in a real building no less ;D ) I never really "got it" till bout 7 1/2 years ago when during my divorce I walked through the doors of the church I still attend and was warmly greeted by people who genuinly cared. A few short weeks later GOD got ahold of me and, well, while life aint always grand, IT SURE beats having NOTHING to help me through the rough times. I will never forget the words that convinced me to try church again after being away for nearly 10 years " It cant hurt!! "Hello Just Me, Just a note... I wonder how many anonamous "me's" there are on this board.. heh heh But in reality you surprise me with your desiring to be a part of a board which you wouldn't be able to "know" what is being written about. Not that it matters, I am simply surprised. Glad to hear about your church experience though. Sorry about the divorce, nobody "wants" that in the beginning. And then the church reaching out to you. That makes me happy. Obviously you have had many "hard" experiences your comment on the bottom of the post reveals that. I hate to hear of people who have been abused; whither it's emotional, spiritual or physical. But here we as human beings can grow into the heights of joy, hope and spiritual maturity while consuming the strength and power of Divine life. I hope you remain more the encouraged "Me" and as to your presenting your views in a less than compassionate way... well we've all had our lessons to learn about how to interact with people and how NOT to. Haven't we. --------- All the best to you. Peace
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Post by Peace on Aug 22, 2006 12:47:53 GMT -5
Welcome, Peace! I'm not able to get here very often anymore because of the added responsibility of taking care of both my parents now, and Dad in the hospital this past week! However, I look forward to reading what you offer us -- we can certainly use all the "peace" afforded us Best regards, Edy Thanks for the welcome Edy. My prayers are toward you in the situations at hand. May you know strength and courage in the days ahead? And oh my... peace yes, peace is more valuable than anything and everything else we have available to us in this life. Be good, do well and know that the present challenges will not last forever. Your bro, Peace
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2006 13:45:06 GMT -5
Peace-
I have enjoyed your posts. I am interested in additional comments you have on points 6 &7. I hope you are interested in expounding?
6. How we as humans try to force people into revelation. 7. The nature of true evangelism vs. fundamental evangelism.
Thank you.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Aug 22, 2006 18:12:46 GMT -5
Number six is so true...
I enjoyed a quote.... "You can't debate someone in to heaven."
Just the same, you can't talk someone into a revelation. That's God's work.
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Post by just me on Aug 22, 2006 21:39:35 GMT -5
Hey peace
I dont know that it really matters, but I think I should clarify a couple three things:
I would imagine quite a few! and I spose there is even more than one person who has posted using the "just me" username, although the person who registered with that name seems to have opted to NOT post anymore.
I will be the first to admit that I dont have any knowledge of the 2x2's and the "life style", HOWEVER I think that might give me an advantage, I am not clouded by the anger or shame from that lifestyle, I see things a bit differently, there really are some interesting threads here AND some interesting ideas floating around
I have no doubts that GOD led me to that church, had I gotten any other reception, I likely wouldnt have gone back. The reception I got was ONE person who walked up to me, asked my name and how I was, and behaved as if they actually cared.
I thank GOD to this day for that sweet elderly lady.
Actually, in the grand scheme of things, my life has been a cakewalk, sure there are ups and downs, good and bad, BUT other than my divorce ( which really tore me up for several months ) I have been blessed with a good life.
Actually I tend to come from another point of view, sometimes when somebody is making a less than stellar decision, the best way to get their attention is NOT COMPASSION,
Could I have worded that post differently?? Certianly, Would I have said anything different?? NOPE, would it have made any difference if I had worded it differently??? I dont know, but I have my doubts.
The thread in question had a guy asking for guidance on a particular subject, he posted his views and several other posters jumped on the bandwagon to pat him on the back, I looked at it and saw a guy headed towards a decision made in haste from ONE point of view, and I stated as much and asked a couple of pointed questions in an attempt to show him a different perspective................ WELL I got hammered for making "judgments" and being immature blah blah blah
And finally, I think I need to put the "it cant hurt" in perspective.
I was talking with some friends of mine about strategy for getting custody of my kid, my buddies dad suggested I start going to church, as a way of demonstrating I was a good parent, I said maybe I would and thats when he said "It cant hurt!"
Turns out GOD doesnt much care WHY we are there as long as we are listening and open to HIM
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Post by Peace on Aug 24, 2006 0:07:41 GMT -5
to Just Me,
I will just say I appreciate your honesty. I am very impressed you simply "offered" the story about your experience which resulted in offense. -------- Without reading the post you referred to, just reading the honest recounting of the experience means to me your intentions were probably quite good. --------- And in my mind motive means allot. Of course if we are going to give advice hard to take, sometimes it works best to make sure we have "money in the bank" so to speak with the party we're giving the advice to.
Anyway... I must follow up on some other posts. With every great desire for you. --------------- Peace
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Post by just me on Aug 24, 2006 17:46:08 GMT -5
to Just Me, I will just say I appreciate your honesty. I am very impressed you simply "offered" the story about your experience which resulted in offense. -------- Without reading the post you referred to, just reading the honest recounting of the experience means to me your intentions were probably quite good. --------- And in my mind motive means allot. Of course if we are going to give advice hard to take, sometimes it works best to make sure we have "money in the bank" so to speak with the party we're giving the advice to. Anyway... I must follow up on some other posts. With every great desire for you. --------------- Peace Yea you are probably right, however experience tells me that having an "in" doesnt always matter either. I've half a mind to register so I could pm you.
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Post by just me on Aug 24, 2006 17:48:29 GMT -5
on the other hand, the OTHER half of my brain keeps reminding me that if I register, then people who dont know how to laugh or take a joke WOULD be able to PM ME!!!!! ;D
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Post by Peace on Aug 26, 2006 20:28:32 GMT -5
Peace- I have enjoyed your posts. I am interested in additional comments you have on points 6 &7. I hope you are interested in expounding? 6. How we as humans try to force people into revelation. 7. The nature of true evangelism vs. fundamental evangelism. Thank you. Hello Questioning, (and Simple also) No problem. These two points are quite closely related. From my own experience we human's so often try to impose what has been revealed to us through our own life's journey upon every individual we meet. ------ How foolish this is as every person alive on earth comes from a unique place. (This place is comprised of everything from the people in their life to the social, economic, philosophic and genetic differences.) And in spite of the vast differences from one person to the next. How oft we as seemingly insightful individuals tend to interact with one another in light of where WE are instead of where THEY are. Which brings me to the next point. (concerning evangelism) When we the priviledge of Divine Wisdom to recognize where another person is coming from (reference to the list in above paragraph) we would do well to let our actions and advice be governed by the knowledge of WHERE that individual is coming from. ------ This is knowledge coupled with temperence. I feel the scripture is one looonngggg story of the Altogether Perfect Creator meeting mankind where we are instead of expecting lowly man to meet God within the realm of Divinity. How impossible that would be!!!!!! -------- And yet how often I have meet people and automaticly anticipated these strangers to at least "see my view" if not joining me in agreement to my particular viewpoint. ------------ This seems REALLY stupid when I consider it's taken me 30+ years to get where I am at. And even that is only because I started from where I started. ---------------- Some may be where I'm at by 20. Others may not be there till 60. Eitherway if I have the nature of God I'll not only recognize where individuals are in their walk through life but I'll be able to accept them and respect them for where their at. Moreover, if Grace really is bestowed upon me I'll be able to go a step further and know how to reach out and INSPIRE them forward FROM WHERE THEIR CURRENTLY AT into love of their Creator and Saviour. This "gift" of evangelism is so lacking in this world where the Christian hates the Muslim, the Muslim hates the Jew and the Jew would chastise everyone who doesn't await their Messiah while the Hindu remains indifferent to everyone else and the whole world in general stands in judgement of one another. Meanwhile the All Loving Creator has been patiently working down through the ages with people in everyone of these traditions. Teaching them about that which is divine and desirable versus that which is carnal and temporal. --------- Loving souls for WHERE THEIR AT more than judging them for WHERE THEIR NOT. ------ Wherein if our Lord did so NONE OF US would stand. That's a brief synopsis of what I feel the Lord has taught me about the gift of Evangelism. ---------- Again true evangelism inspires revelation in our hearts and minds and then and only then do we as humans grasp the revelation with awe and appreciation, responding to it with the integrity of appreciation and hope for a better tomorrow. The opposite of which is a force fed, finger-wagging, condemnation filled, self-righteous, oft puffed up spirit of "I know better" and if you'll just listen to me I'll get you all straightened out!!!! ----- Now really... WHO is going to respond favorably to that!!! ?? And yet how many try!!! Fundamental Christianity is a perfect example of that!!!! And yet the verse of Jesus saying, "and after you've converted them you make them 2-fold more the child of hell then yourself!" ------- But that is oft the fruit of human endeavors when they aren't inspired of the Holy Spirit. I hope this answers some of your ponderings. And maybe this will count for somewhat of a response to "Simple" when he/she asked me to share what has been for me a revelation. The above paragraphs definately represent some of what has been an on going revelation for me. All the best to you everyone, Peace
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Post by hrl on Aug 26, 2006 20:49:47 GMT -5
Peace- I have enjoyed your posts. I am interested in additional comments you have on points 6 &7. I hope you are interested in expounding? 6. How we as humans try to force people into revelation. 7. The nature of true evangelism vs. fundamental evangelism. Thank you. Hello Questioning, (and Simple also) No problem. These two points are quite closely related. From my own experience we human's so often try to impose what has been revealed to us through our own life's journey upon every individual we meet. ------ How foolish this is as every person alive on earth comes from a unique place. (This place is comprised of everything from the people in their life to the social, economic, philosophic and genetic differences.) And in spite of the vast differences from one person to the next. How oft we as seemingly insightful individuals tend to interact with one another in light of where WE are instead of where THEY are. Which brings me to the next point. (concerning evangelism) When we the priviledge of Divine Wisdom to recognize where another person is coming from (reference to the list in above paragraph) we would do well to let our actions and advice be governed by the knowledge of WHERE that individual is coming from. ------ This is knowledge coupled with temperence. I feel the scripture is one looonngggg story of the Altogether Perfect Creator meeting mankind where we are instead of expecting lowly man to meet God within the realm of Divinity. How impossible that would be!!!!!! -------- And yet how often I have meet people and automaticly anticipated these strangers to at least "see my view" if not joining me in agreement to my particular viewpoint. ------------ This seems REALLY stupid when I consider it's taken me 30+ years to get where I am at. And even that is only because I started from where I started. ---------------- Some may be where I'm at by 20. Others may not be there till 60. Eitherway if I have the nature of God I'll not only recognize where individuals are in their walk through life but I'll be able to accept them and respect them for where their at. Moreover, if Grace really is bestowed upon me I'll be able to go a step further and know how to reach out and INSPIRE them forward FROM WHERE THEIR CURRENTLY AT into love of their Creator and Saviour. This "gift" of evangelism is so lacking in this world where the Christian hates the Muslim, the Muslim hates the Jew and the Jew would chastise everyone who doesn't await their Messiah while the Hindu remains indifferent to everyone else and the whole world in general stands in judgement of one another. Meanwhile the All Loving Creator has been patiently working down through the ages with people in everyone of these traditions. Teaching them about that which is divine and desirable versus that which is carnal and temporal. --------- Loving souls for WHERE THEIR AT more than judging them for WHERE THEIR NOT. ------ Wherein if our Lord did so NONE OF US would stand. That's a brief synopsis of what I feel the Lord has taught me about the gift of Evangelism. ---------- Again true evangelism inspires revelation in our hearts and minds and then and only then do we as humans grasp the revelation with awe and appreciation, responding to it with the integrity of appreciation and hope for a better tomorrow. The opposite of which is a force fed, finger-wagging, condemnation filled, self-righteous, oft puffed up spirit of "I know better" and if you'll just listen to me I'll get you all straightened out!!!! ----- Now really... WHO is going to respond favorably to that!!! ?? And yet how many try!!! Fundamental Christianity is a perfect example of that!!!! And yet the verse of Jesus saying, "and after you've converted them you make them 2-fold more the child of hell then yourself!" ------- But that is oft the fruit of human endeavors when they aren't inspired of the Holy Spirit. I hope this answers some of your ponderings. And maybe this will count for somewhat of a response to "Simple" when he/she asked me to share what has been for me a revelation. The above paragraphs definately represent some of what has been an on going revelation for me. All the best to you everyone, Peace Well, first of all, Hi "Peace" ;; peace to all and hope for all are healthy places for me to rest my thoughts.
I liked what you shared about people just being 'where they are at'.......I am reminded that God Himself will work with us where we are at not only when we ask and are willing , but that He seeks us out where we are at and calls us; He has a purpose for our lives, regardless of where we are at and where we came from and where we start. ........this is a beautiful revelation of mine per recent times.
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Post by tellsackett on Aug 28, 2006 23:02:35 GMT -5
Welcome to the TMB, Peace. Now don your asbestos underwear. White Rabbit, It's so good you've got me pegged. And I'm happy to hear from you. Regarding the asbestos underwear, did you get your pair from JC Penny's? ----------- It's all ok people will do what they will do. And ultimately they will have to live with themselves both now and eternally. Meanwhile I have the priviledge of having a thousand different experiences and laughing my way through at least half of them. See ya WR, and stay in touch... by the way hows KS? PEACE is a right fine thing to get a hold of; only problem is there's always someone who's trying to let loose of peace and causing some sort of disruption. Now, it's don't make a lick of sense if people who really want peace and justice and goodness to prevail let the folks who want badness to prevail take over and just walk all over all the good folks. so that is why there will not be total peace, unless it's in heaven.
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