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Aug 15, 2006 12:17:04 GMT -5
Post by RJnTJ on Aug 15, 2006 12:17:04 GMT -5
Someone's writing letters again, good to see. Got this from my mom who got it in an email. William Irvine created The Truth in 1897.
Jesus is truth. Calling something Truth doesn’t make it Jesus. God loves us as individuals, not because we are part of some group. The narrow way is defined by Jesus, not by man.
Jesus is our Lord and Savior first, our pattern for living second. Works are of the heart, not of the hands, and not for show. Salvation is a gift, not something we earn.
It is not a sin to examine your religious beliefs. 1 John 4:1 - "...try the spirits whether they are of God..." Facts aren't of Satan, but deception is. Acts 5:38,39 - "...for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it..." Pray, read, research these things, and learn for yourself. Prov 1:7 - "...fools despise wisdom and instruction." Let no man (including workers) take thy crown. Born into blindness you have no fault. Choosing blindness makes fault yours.
Encyclopedia facts: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_conventions
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Aug 15, 2006 12:45:16 GMT -5
Post by newsflash on Aug 15, 2006 12:45:16 GMT -5
[/b][/quote] uh news flash... wikipedia is NOT an encyclopedia as defined by the commonly held definition. and encyclopedia is publication thats content is researched by subjects experts, reported on, and backed by the publisher of the encyclopedia. wikipedia is a collection of knowledge in which ANY person can contribute to and its entire content IS NOT backed by the publisher (wikipedia) because they acknowledge the potential for innacuracies. do not get me wrong, wikipedia is a great idea and a great source of information. however, you are showing a real lack of intellectual intregity by refering to the content on there as "fact".
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Aug 15, 2006 13:17:38 GMT -5
Post by RjnTJ on Aug 15, 2006 13:17:38 GMT -5
My initial gut was to agree with you but after thinking about it I think you are splitting hairs a bit, perhaps maybe wrong. dictionary.reference.com/browse/encyclopediaYour one-sided criticism makes it sound like there is no verification process on Wikipedia, if you know anything about the site, you already know better. But if I were the original author, I might have not used the word fact. Encyclopedia kind of means that anyway. I have a set of encyclopedias from the 50's, very funny reading, so much is (and was then too) so wrong. I guess it all boils down to the "fact" that true "facts" aren't as common as some people would have us to think.
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Aug 15, 2006 13:38:32 GMT -5
Post by FJA7SI4 on Aug 15, 2006 13:38:32 GMT -5
My initial gut was to agree with you but after thinking about it I think you are splitting hairs a bit, perhaps maybe wrong. dictionary.reference.com/browse/encyclopediaYour one-sided criticism makes it sound like there is no verification process on Wikipedia, if you know anything about the site, you already know better. But if I were the original author, I might have not used the word fact. Encyclopedia kind of means that anyway. I have a set of encyclopedias from the 50's, very funny reading, so much is (and was then too) so wrong. I guess it all boils down to the "fact" that true "facts" aren't as common as some people would have us to think. yes, i agree with you. wikipedia does have some verification process and most information is fairly accurate. because of ease of access, i start most of my research there. as with all research, it is very important to verify your facts. the "fact" credibility of wikipedia is going to be much lower then of a traditional encyclopedia. that does not mean stuff on wikipedia is wrong, it just needs some additional scrutiny. however, the link is to a subject (christian conventions) that is fairly devisive, not very well documented factually anywhere (ie. there are little documented studies and research to back up pples claims), and does not exist in any published encyclopedia anywhere. So a person referencing wikipedia as fact for a subject like this is being misleading. this is true of any subject on wikipedia that is controversial. many pple can contribute their perception of the subject, but they lack facts to back it up. this is why a subject like this (christian conventions) would not make it into most encyclopedia. essentially its not big enough to be properly researched. and again, i go back to my original point about the publisher of an encyclopedia backing up their work where wikipedia cannot vouch for all content on its site and the accuracy. so that in itself makes it a significantly different medium then a traditionaly encyclopedia. as far as what is a fact, well that is another debate but obvously there any many entries of unsupported claims on wikipedia. a supported claim is a reference to an independent study of information and facts. the more supported claims to bolster a point of view, the more sound your point is. i think i would also be amused at those old encyclopedias. sounds like good reading.
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Aug 15, 2006 13:53:41 GMT -5
Post by Funny but relevant on Aug 15, 2006 13:53:41 GMT -5
this has relevance here....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Errors_in_the_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica_that_have_been_corrected_in_Wikipedia
(copy and paste 'cause the :colon: screws up the clickable link)
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Aug 15, 2006 13:55:09 GMT -5
Post by short letter on Aug 15, 2006 13:55:09 GMT -5
As letters about the 2x2s go this is the shortest I've seen
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Aug 15, 2006 16:10:53 GMT -5
Post by Jason in a rush on Aug 15, 2006 16:10:53 GMT -5
Yep, I got the exact same email 9 days ago
;D ;D Jason ;D ;D
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Aug 16, 2006 10:07:02 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2006 10:07:02 GMT -5
Who is doing this?
I wonder what kind of person thinks they have the right to interfere like this in the relationship other people have with God.
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Aug 16, 2006 11:05:15 GMT -5
Post by HimnHer on Aug 16, 2006 11:05:15 GMT -5
Who is doing this? Don`t Know I wonder what kind of person thinks they have the right to interfere like this in the relationship other people have with God. The Workers?
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Aug 16, 2006 15:45:15 GMT -5
Post by a believer on Aug 16, 2006 15:45:15 GMT -5
Who is doing this? I wonder what kind of person thinks they have the right to interfere like this in the relationship other people have with God. We all have a responsibility to tell others about Jesus., if that is what you mean by interefering with a person's relationship with God.
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Aug 18, 2006 23:40:28 GMT -5
Post by another believer on Aug 18, 2006 23:40:28 GMT -5
If someone isn't looking, I'm not sure it's a healthy thing to shove it down their throat like this?
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Aug 19, 2006 7:53:28 GMT -5
Post by GuestS on Aug 19, 2006 7:53:28 GMT -5
If someone isn't looking, I'm not sure it's a healthy thing to shove it down their throat like this? No one is shoving anything down anyone's throat. The choice is yours. You can read or not read. No one is forcing you to come here.
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Aug 19, 2006 15:03:05 GMT -5
Post by another believer on Aug 19, 2006 15:03:05 GMT -5
Not so.
People at home mind their own business then a letter shows up in their mailbox or e-mail inbox - this is shoving it down their throat.
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Aug 19, 2006 18:39:55 GMT -5
Post by Are you sure on Aug 19, 2006 18:39:55 GMT -5
Someone said in one of these posts that there isn't anything about Christian conventions in any encyclopedia anywhere. Are you sure about that? Not even maybe by another of the names they've used over the 100 plus years? Not in any encyclopedia anywhere? I seem to remember seeing something about it in an encyclopedia of religions at one point years ago. Anybody else?
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Aug 19, 2006 20:16:23 GMT -5
Post by Me2 on Aug 19, 2006 20:16:23 GMT -5
Someone said in one of these posts that there isn't anything about Christian conventions in any encyclopedia anywhere. Are you sure about that? Not even maybe by another of the names they've used over the 100 plus years? Not in any encyclopedia anywhere? I seem to remember seeing something about it in an encyclopedia of religions at one point years ago. Anybody else? I've wondered about this also. I was a kid in the 80's and I remember overhearing a conversation among adults that there was an "encyclopedia of religions" that described the Truth but I remember nothing other than this.
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