Post by Jesse_Lackman on Sept 9, 2007 11:20:22 GMT -5
What is the purpose of this board?
I'm remembering my first experience with the internet through Compuserve, and being in a chat room. Someone in the chat room had the handle "Wonderwoman". What that person apparently didn't know what you could click on their profile and see more information, it turned out "Wonderwoman" was a guy. I've watched the internet for over ten years now, if anything this kind of garbage has gotten much worse. Hate, venom, foul language, lies, libel, these are the fatal flaws of internet discussion boards and this one is the worst of all I have ever seen. It is amazing that in spite of the obvious hate, venom, foul language, lies, and libel, many here seem to believe a letter like the one on "1988 letter to Taylor Wood ..Sex scandals CO/N" without verifying if the information in it is true or not. People here need to remember anyone can pretend to be anyone and say anything they want on an unmoderated internet board like this one.
Allowing anonymous posting on internet boards is so rare these days because of hate, venom, foul language, lies, libel, yet this board allows it. If you don't believe me look around at other boards. I know of only one other internet board that allows anonymous posting but that board displays the IP address of the poster in each post. I wondered why this board allows anonymous posters to run wild (anonymous guest posters often outnumber the registered posters) so I sent the admin this PM;
The admin did not reply. That is very interesting and suggests to me the board is exactly as the owner/moderator/admin wants it.
A few things stand out in an objective review of this board, by default these observations are also a window into the character of the board owner/moderator/admin - more so than the posters here;
- The venom and bashing towards "2x2s" far outweighs any venom or bashing from them, this would be obvious to any objective reader. Even people who say they are not professing have said this.
- The amount of unverified libelous accusations against real people is simply amazing, and even more amazing are those who seem to buy unverified libelous accusations without any second thoughts! I don't understand how a board can be allowed to run wild like this without a liability risk to the board owner/moderator/admin.
- There is no way to know who anonymous guest posters are, none, even (and maybe especially) if they use the name of a real person. The board owner/moderator/admin can see the IP address from which every post was made. I wonder how many anonymous guest posters know that? Look in the lower right of each post; see where it says, "IP logged"? It seems very disrespectful and dishonorable to every serious poster here that the board owner/moderator/admin would allow the volume of anonymous posting that takes place here.
- One of the most vindictive and retaliatory people here is from a state from which the surprisingly objective Wiki "Christian Conventions" page was being vandalized. That's interesting. Anonymous edits on Wiki display the IP address the person doing the edits or posts is using - that is how Wiki vandals are tracked and eventually get banned. Wiki does not allow unverifiable, libelous, hateful data to be posted anonymously as if it were fact. Anyone know why?? It is because they want to be credible as a source of information. Wiki is a LOT more fair, objective and honest than this board in that respect. Obviously credibility isn't high on the list of the owner/moderator/admin of this board.
- Many people on this board know, or know of each other. But getting together on this board feels like meeting up at a sewage lagoon. It might be fun and games for the admin and some others but I can't be the only one who feels like I'm getting contaminated. The subject matter is too serious for it to turn into fun and games or any other morbid sort of entertainment.
I know it could be a lot better here if the admin/owner/moderator so desired, I know because the moderated forums I visit the admins/owners/moderators and posters treat each other with a lot more respect than is shown here.
So to the admin/owner/moderator - are you going to rise to your responsibility, or are you going to let it run down the same old rutted muddy road?
Jesse
I'm remembering my first experience with the internet through Compuserve, and being in a chat room. Someone in the chat room had the handle "Wonderwoman". What that person apparently didn't know what you could click on their profile and see more information, it turned out "Wonderwoman" was a guy. I've watched the internet for over ten years now, if anything this kind of garbage has gotten much worse. Hate, venom, foul language, lies, libel, these are the fatal flaws of internet discussion boards and this one is the worst of all I have ever seen. It is amazing that in spite of the obvious hate, venom, foul language, lies, and libel, many here seem to believe a letter like the one on "1988 letter to Taylor Wood ..Sex scandals CO/N" without verifying if the information in it is true or not. People here need to remember anyone can pretend to be anyone and say anything they want on an unmoderated internet board like this one.
Allowing anonymous posting on internet boards is so rare these days because of hate, venom, foul language, lies, libel, yet this board allows it. If you don't believe me look around at other boards. I know of only one other internet board that allows anonymous posting but that board displays the IP address of the poster in each post. I wondered why this board allows anonymous posters to run wild (anonymous guest posters often outnumber the registered posters) so I sent the admin this PM;
Does this board have the option of displaying a guest poster's IP address in the post? Most do. If so would you consider activating that option - I think it would cut down on the obvious trolling like on the "sexual abuse cover ups" thread. You can't believe any guest poster here without some form of tracking who is posting. Very very few internet boards allow anonymous guest posting - I'm surprised it is the case here.
I'm sure you can see the IPs, I'd almost bet there are people on that thread playing many parts? Is that true? ;-)
Since it naturally follows allowing anonymous guest posting will result in the drama we see on the thread "sexual abuse cover ups" I have to wonder what your purpose is in having the board and allowing it to continue?
Care to say?
thanks,
Jesse
I'm sure you can see the IPs, I'd almost bet there are people on that thread playing many parts? Is that true? ;-)
Since it naturally follows allowing anonymous guest posting will result in the drama we see on the thread "sexual abuse cover ups" I have to wonder what your purpose is in having the board and allowing it to continue?
Care to say?
thanks,
Jesse
The admin did not reply. That is very interesting and suggests to me the board is exactly as the owner/moderator/admin wants it.
A few things stand out in an objective review of this board, by default these observations are also a window into the character of the board owner/moderator/admin - more so than the posters here;
- The venom and bashing towards "2x2s" far outweighs any venom or bashing from them, this would be obvious to any objective reader. Even people who say they are not professing have said this.
- The amount of unverified libelous accusations against real people is simply amazing, and even more amazing are those who seem to buy unverified libelous accusations without any second thoughts! I don't understand how a board can be allowed to run wild like this without a liability risk to the board owner/moderator/admin.
- There is no way to know who anonymous guest posters are, none, even (and maybe especially) if they use the name of a real person. The board owner/moderator/admin can see the IP address from which every post was made. I wonder how many anonymous guest posters know that? Look in the lower right of each post; see where it says, "IP logged"? It seems very disrespectful and dishonorable to every serious poster here that the board owner/moderator/admin would allow the volume of anonymous posting that takes place here.
- One of the most vindictive and retaliatory people here is from a state from which the surprisingly objective Wiki "Christian Conventions" page was being vandalized. That's interesting. Anonymous edits on Wiki display the IP address the person doing the edits or posts is using - that is how Wiki vandals are tracked and eventually get banned. Wiki does not allow unverifiable, libelous, hateful data to be posted anonymously as if it were fact. Anyone know why?? It is because they want to be credible as a source of information. Wiki is a LOT more fair, objective and honest than this board in that respect. Obviously credibility isn't high on the list of the owner/moderator/admin of this board.
- Many people on this board know, or know of each other. But getting together on this board feels like meeting up at a sewage lagoon. It might be fun and games for the admin and some others but I can't be the only one who feels like I'm getting contaminated. The subject matter is too serious for it to turn into fun and games or any other morbid sort of entertainment.
I know it could be a lot better here if the admin/owner/moderator so desired, I know because the moderated forums I visit the admins/owners/moderators and posters treat each other with a lot more respect than is shown here.
So to the admin/owner/moderator - are you going to rise to your responsibility, or are you going to let it run down the same old rutted muddy road?
Jesse