Post by Jessi on Aug 6, 2006 21:55:57 GMT -5
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Man = 2 God wrote:
So your God is a God of punishment? Like a kid with a magnifying glass burning ants if they walk in the wrong place? But then, according to the Bible we are equal to God in every way but everlasting life so I guess we have the same faults He has.
Jessi wrote: Scripture, please?
MAN: Genesis 3:22 - And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
JESSI: But wasn’t man was already “as one of us, ” in that he was made in God’s image, as a person is LIKE his parents, but not so in every way? You think man is equal to God? Where can one read in the Bible that man is equal to God (with the exception of the God man, Jesus Christ)? “Like” doesn’t mean “equal to”, does it? I read that “to know good and evil” was what made man more like God than was desirable -- so He made a merciful provision by kicking man out of the garden . . . Lest he partake of the tree of life” and live forever in his sin.
Adam and Eve died spiritually when they ate of the fruit. They also began physically to die. God did not make man with a sin nature or spiritually dead. After he had finished his creation, He saw that it was “very good”(Gen 1:31).
MAN: Except for the living forever bit, man has become equal to the Gods. So God prevented man from partaking of the fruit of the tree of life. Other than that, it looks like man has become as the Gods.
JESSI: Doesn’t the Bible say that man was “made in God’s image“? Is this the same as being equal to? If man is equal to God, then why is he commanded to WORSHIP his creator? Why was he made to glorify God? If he were equal to God, couldn’t he glorify himself? Isn’t God Holy? Where in the Bible does it say that without the sanctification of God, man is holy? Or righteous? Or powerful? Or omniscient? Or merciful or compassionate or longsuffering?
MAN: God was a lot more human in the early part of the OT. Doesn't seem to have been omniscent. Even had trouble finding Adam in the garden. Maybe all of mankind did not descend from Adam and Eve.
JESSI: Have you ever asked a question for which you already knew the answer? Isn’t that what the Sovereign God was doing? Giving Adam a chance to repent? To fess up? He did the same thing with Cain, asking him, where was Abel, his brother.
MAN: There is the shadowy figure of Malchizedek, the king of Salem and a priest to the Most High God. We learn in Hebrews (7:3)that Melchisedec was Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Sounds lke he must still be wandering around here somewhere.
JESSI: That was the picture of the Messiah, Jesus (from SALEM, later called JERUSALEM), the King, who has no beginning and no end, from everlasting (Mic 5:2). Heb 7 mentions the King of the most High God, pictured in Gen 14:18 as just appearing out of nowhere . . . And yet, a King.
MAN: But then there are a lot of things said in Genesis that are doubtful. Adam did not die on the day he ate the fruit. (Genesis 2:17 - But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.)
JESSI: The fall brought spiritual death. Physical death would come later. The serpent said, “You shall not surely die.” It was the greatest temptation ever. And Eve had a chance to be like God . . . ? Did satan know the difference between spiritual and physical death? Did Eve understand the difference?
Christ's,
Jessi
Man = 2 God wrote:
So your God is a God of punishment? Like a kid with a magnifying glass burning ants if they walk in the wrong place? But then, according to the Bible we are equal to God in every way but everlasting life so I guess we have the same faults He has.
Jessi wrote: Scripture, please?
MAN: Genesis 3:22 - And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
JESSI: But wasn’t man was already “as one of us, ” in that he was made in God’s image, as a person is LIKE his parents, but not so in every way? You think man is equal to God? Where can one read in the Bible that man is equal to God (with the exception of the God man, Jesus Christ)? “Like” doesn’t mean “equal to”, does it? I read that “to know good and evil” was what made man more like God than was desirable -- so He made a merciful provision by kicking man out of the garden . . . Lest he partake of the tree of life” and live forever in his sin.
Adam and Eve died spiritually when they ate of the fruit. They also began physically to die. God did not make man with a sin nature or spiritually dead. After he had finished his creation, He saw that it was “very good”(Gen 1:31).
MAN: Except for the living forever bit, man has become equal to the Gods. So God prevented man from partaking of the fruit of the tree of life. Other than that, it looks like man has become as the Gods.
JESSI: Doesn’t the Bible say that man was “made in God’s image“? Is this the same as being equal to? If man is equal to God, then why is he commanded to WORSHIP his creator? Why was he made to glorify God? If he were equal to God, couldn’t he glorify himself? Isn’t God Holy? Where in the Bible does it say that without the sanctification of God, man is holy? Or righteous? Or powerful? Or omniscient? Or merciful or compassionate or longsuffering?
MAN: God was a lot more human in the early part of the OT. Doesn't seem to have been omniscent. Even had trouble finding Adam in the garden. Maybe all of mankind did not descend from Adam and Eve.
JESSI: Have you ever asked a question for which you already knew the answer? Isn’t that what the Sovereign God was doing? Giving Adam a chance to repent? To fess up? He did the same thing with Cain, asking him, where was Abel, his brother.
MAN: There is the shadowy figure of Malchizedek, the king of Salem and a priest to the Most High God. We learn in Hebrews (7:3)that Melchisedec was Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Sounds lke he must still be wandering around here somewhere.
JESSI: That was the picture of the Messiah, Jesus (from SALEM, later called JERUSALEM), the King, who has no beginning and no end, from everlasting (Mic 5:2). Heb 7 mentions the King of the most High God, pictured in Gen 14:18 as just appearing out of nowhere . . . And yet, a King.
MAN: But then there are a lot of things said in Genesis that are doubtful. Adam did not die on the day he ate the fruit. (Genesis 2:17 - But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.)
JESSI: The fall brought spiritual death. Physical death would come later. The serpent said, “You shall not surely die.” It was the greatest temptation ever. And Eve had a chance to be like God . . . ? Did satan know the difference between spiritual and physical death? Did Eve understand the difference?
Christ's,
Jessi