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Post by it is written on Aug 6, 2006 12:28:18 GMT -5
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. 3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7Therefore do not be partners with them.
7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
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Post by mrleo on Aug 6, 2006 12:39:48 GMT -5
That's a lot to live up to. No kind of impurity. No foolish talk (I wonder what that means, exactly). No greed. And no association with people who are impure in any way, or who engage in foolish talk, or who are greedy.
Almost seems like you'd have to be a hermit to not end up in the lake of fire.
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Post by notahomo on Aug 6, 2006 12:49:02 GMT -5
That's a lot to live up to. No kind of impurity. No foolish talk (I wonder what that means, exactly). No greed. And no association with people who are impure in any way, or who engage in foolish talk, or who are greedy. Almost seems like you'd have to be a hermit to not end up in the lake of fire. are u a homo-fag?
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Post by justamom on Aug 6, 2006 12:58:29 GMT -5
Looks like the lake of fire is going to be packed!
S'mores anyone? lol
Have a great day...
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Post by mrleo on Aug 6, 2006 13:12:02 GMT -5
By merely responding to you, it's possible that I'm engaging in foolish talk, so I hope you appreciate the risk I'm taking...but no, I don't consider myself a homo-fag...to be honest, though, that "word" is not in my vocabulary, so it's possible that I am one and don't know it.
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Post by To Gene on Aug 6, 2006 15:15:24 GMT -5
Did I miss something? What does Ana have to do with it?
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Post by nitro on Aug 6, 2006 15:21:38 GMT -5
Take ANA away from the sign and you get fag. ;D I believe thats what it means.
Jerry: We're not gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that... George: No, of course not... Jerry: I mean that's fine if that's who you are... George: Absolutely... Jerry: I mean I have many gay friends... George: My father's gay.
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Post by lizzy on Aug 6, 2006 22:50:12 GMT -5
I am so disappointed in this board. There are homosexuals who think they are saved! Yes God loves you, he loves his whole creation. But you also know that some things are scriptural and unacceptable and He doesn't love that. Quit your behaviour before you even think you are saved. Then there are the ignorant people here who are "homo-fag" haters. What a hateful term! That isn't Christian either. I don't like the pictures of our two gay couples either. None of the rest of us feels a need to post our picture, much less our sweetie by our side. Don't call me judgemental. Call me a Christian who is trying to be led by the Word and Spirit of Christ. Yes, Jesus saves, but come on people, you just can't lead the life YOU choose. The Bible was left for us to follow. What is your explanation for your choices and then thinking you are Christian? We were born with lots of desires, but not all are accepted by God.
How can there be any interpretation for what is so clearly stated in the Bible?
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Post by Because on Aug 6, 2006 23:11:39 GMT -5
How can there be any interpretation for what is so clearly stated in the Bible? What is stated is not as clear as you have been led to believe. Genesis 19: Other biblical passages about Sodom identify the sin of the city as being unresponsive to the poor and needy, and being uncharitable towards strangers. The only obvious sexual sin of Sodom was a desire to rape strangers. Leviticus 18 & 20: Male ritual sexual activity in Pagan temples is clearly prohibited. Such behavior was a common practice within the Canaanite fertility religion. The practice was also taken up by some ancient Israelites. Deuteronomy 23: Prostitution, both heterosexual and homosexual is always condemned.
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Post by lizzy on Aug 7, 2006 0:00:05 GMT -5
Try the new testament
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Post by to lizzy on Aug 7, 2006 0:56:41 GMT -5
can you share with us what parts of the bible you do not follow as well? I would venture to say that it is alot more than you tell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2006 3:50:38 GMT -5
can you share with us what parts of the bible you do not follow as well? I would venture to say that it is alot more than you tell. Is the following part of the old testament, that was a command of God, moral justification for Christian genocide? Hardly! Deut 3:6-7 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. [7] But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves. Edgar Jesus words Matt 5:39 The old testament said "Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth" But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Christianity IS different than Judaism!!
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Post by Ks84UWK on Aug 7, 2006 11:08:38 GMT -5
I am so disappointed in this board. There are homosexuals who think they are saved! Yes God loves you, he loves his whole creation. But you also know that some things are scriptural and unacceptable and He doesn't love that. Quit your behaviour before you even think you are saved. Then there are the ignorant people here who are "homo-fag" haters. What a hateful term! That isn't Christian either. I don't like the pictures of our two gay couples either. None of the rest of us feels a need to post our picture, much less our sweetie by our side. Don't call me judgemental. Call me a Christian who is trying to be led by the Word and Spirit of Christ. Yes, Jesus saves, but come on people, you just can't lead the life YOU choose. The Bible was left for us to follow. What is your explanation for your choices and then thinking you are Christian? We were born with lots of desires, but not all are accepted by God. How can there be any interpretation for what is so clearly stated in the Bible? i agree with your post izzy.. you are correct.. this board is a place to find very unchristian behavior. and even before i saw responses to your post i knew pple would heap the "positive by a negative" response to you. it goes something like this.. you (and everyone) has sin in your life therefore i am ok. you see this aurgument everywhere. it totally negates the christian responsibility to try and live right in the sight of god.. the aurgument also likes to find obscure scritpure in the old the testiment to try and confuse people. well news flash, you can get out of old testimant. new testiment = new convenant.. which is how we are to live. and frankly, i do not feel any need to try and convince people that they are wrong. i will tell you what i think (like i am here) but everyone else is entitled to their own opinion also. but for all who feel like they can sin all they want and its not a problem, i point you to galations 6 (NIV) --------- 7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
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Post by Gene on Aug 7, 2006 13:03:39 GMT -5
I am so disappointed in this board. There are homosexuals who think they are saved! Yes God loves you, he loves his whole creation. But you also know that some things are scriptural and unacceptable and He doesn't love that. Quit your behaviour before you even think you are saved. Then there are the ignorant people here who are "homo-fag" haters. What a hateful term! That isn't Christian either. I don't like the pictures of our two gay couples either. None of the rest of us feels a need to post our picture, much less our sweetie by our side. Don't call me judgemental. Call me a Christian who is trying to be led by the Word and Spirit of Christ. Yes, Jesus saves, but come on people, you just can't lead the life YOU choose. The Bible was left for us to follow. What is your explanation for your choices and then thinking you are Christian? We were born with lots of desires, but not all are accepted by God. How can there be any interpretation for what is so clearly stated in the Bible? Hi Lizzie, The commonality of posters on this board is a connection to the truth meetings system, not a shared belief system. Belief sets among people on this board vary widely, from fundamental Christians to agnostics; from strict interpreters of scripture, to liberal, to those who believe there are portions of scripture that simply do not apply, to those that believe that the entire book is a fairy tale. If you prefer a board where people hold to the same beliefs as you, this may not be the board for you. As for my beliefs, I believe very strongly that to teach that homosexuality is an abomination to God is a grievous error of Christianity today. I do not introduce <edit> threads on this topic (although I do keep a pic of Baer and me as an avatar) <end edit>. There has never been a need to do so, as the topic is introduced with remarkable regularity by those who present the other point of view. When they introduce their view, I respond with mine. My intention is not to change the beliefs of people such as yourself. Rather, it is to present an alternate point of view for consideration by people who read this board who may have questions about this topic. Although I am no longer considered a part of the f&w church, I still feel a strong connection to current and former members. I have a lot of empathy for those with connections to the f&w church who struggle with the topic of homosexuality. That's why I respond to posts about this topic on this board.
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Post by KSRHVBP on Aug 7, 2006 13:24:30 GMT -5
As for my beliefs, I believe very strongly that to teach homosexuality is an abomination to God is a grievous error of Christianity today. I do not introduce the topic. There has never been a need to do so, as the topic is introduced with remarkable regularity by those who present the other point of view. When they introduce their view, I respond with mine. no way, you cant pretent like you some innocent bystander who "never" brings the topic up.. you post a pic of you and your boyfriend so everyone sees it everytime you post. what a joke. you pretend like you have some high road when really you are just attempting to stir the pot and push your agenda.
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Post by mrleo on Aug 7, 2006 15:04:38 GMT -5
I have found that some of my favorite posters on this board are people who do not share my viewpoint on many issues, including but not limited to homosexuality. And the reason I think that is so--that I like these people so much (some of whom I've never met) and eagerly look forward to reading their posts and "talking" to them on this forum--is because I know that above and beyond any theological disagreements we may have, the one thing we do have is a basic respect and, dare I say it, love, for each other as people, as fellow creatures.
Knowing that there is that love and respect underpinning the discussion allows us to let go of feelings of insecurity about the fact that we don't agree about everything, and thereby we can more clearly see commonalities and what may be gained by sharing what we can with each other rather than worrying about what we might lose by rubbing elbows with the "wrong" kind of people.
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Post by Gene on Aug 7, 2006 15:59:07 GMT -5
no way, you cant pretent like you some innocent bystander who "never" brings the topic up.. you post a pic of you and your boyfriend so everyone sees it everytime you post. what a joke. you pretend like you have some high road when really you are just attempting to stir the pot and push your agenda. I stand corrected. To the extent that posting a picture of Baer and me together is introducing the topic of homosexuality and pushing my agenda of presenting an alternate viewpoint on the topic, I do so. What I should have said in the earlier post is that I do not WRITE about the topic on this board except in response to someone presenting a point of view that I differ with. I'll edit my post accordingly.
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