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Aug 26, 2007 14:21:06 GMT -5
Post by naturally on Aug 26, 2007 14:21:06 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people? Were they taught this? Do they just believe that all non-truthers are hell bound so just stick their noses up?Oh, the irony one finds on the TMB! Naturally, when one reads your prozac-laced diatribes, the irony is thick with the stench of your judgmental spewage.
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Aug 26, 2007 14:25:41 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 14:25:41 GMT -5
How to worship, and where to worship, concentrated the mind of God in the bible. God removed (and will remove) a lot of people who did not share His views on this matter. d forms Redemption- not a how to book... People, not processes... Relationship, not lifeless forms... Himself. Karl
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Aug 26, 2007 14:26:29 GMT -5
Post by _ on Aug 26, 2007 14:26:29 GMT -5
Naturally, when one reads your prozac-laced diatribes, the irony is thick with the stench of your judgmental spewage. You would have better luck at people taking your posts seriously if you didn't hide like a coward in the shadows, but instead posted under a handle...
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judgers
Aug 26, 2007 17:33:09 GMT -5
Post by sephora on Aug 26, 2007 17:33:09 GMT -5
I don't believe it is judgmental to call OTHER people out on being judgmental! Change has to start SOMEWHERE! I for one am tired of standing idly by while someone presumes to tell someone else whether or not their behaviors are godly. This is like the classic example of two year old behavior- somebody behaves badly, they get called out on it, and the person behaving badly retorts: "Nah nah, nah nah nah, YOU'RE the one who's judgmental!" so they don't have to take any responsibility for their own actions. I also left the religion because of the judgments, criticisms, and downright nasty remarks made by other people. Oh, the things I wish I had said at the time. But I always stayed silent. The damage that these hurtful comments do to people in the name of religion is sometimes irreversible. If bad people are not told their behavior is bad, the religion will continue to garner a bad reputation. Certainly every professing person is not bad, but unfortunately, sometimes judgmental people ruin things for everybody. I have great love and respect for so many of the friends and workers, there are some I have lost respect for, and some who are judgmental, but I feel are like that only because they have been brainwashed and don't know any better. But it's people's silence that allows the behavior to be perpetuated and passed on to other generations. I admire people who get a backbone and stand up to other people. It might save a child somewhere from psychological damage If only close-minded people also kept their mouths closed. It is wrong to presume what is in another's heart, and that to me is what judgmental people do. It is the worst kind of insult, and I will no longer stand for it.
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Aug 26, 2007 18:10:12 GMT -5
Post by gloryintruth on Aug 26, 2007 18:10:12 GMT -5
I think if He wanted to make contact with someone drinking a beer and watching a sunset at Kakadu, He could do it! Don't you?
Bert: Most of the people on the TMB are Americans. They would hardly know where Australia is, let alone Kakadu. Just a thought!
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Aug 26, 2007 18:12:21 GMT -5
Post by gloryintruth on Aug 26, 2007 18:12:21 GMT -5
...when one reads your prozac-laced diatribes...
You're a real piece of work, mate.
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judgers
Aug 26, 2007 19:04:24 GMT -5
Post by no name on Aug 26, 2007 19:04:24 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. So then what are you for judging them as judgmental? What a shame that someone such as yourself as to stoop so low as to make false and sweeping judgments on an entire group of people... Thank you for saying that. I was thinking the exact same thing. Guess it's easier to throw out generalizations instead of taking the time to self-censor such negativie tendencies as snarking about a whole group of people. It certainly doesn't start by condemning an entire group. That's the kind of stuff that went on with Nazi Germany, racism, and the various ugly personifications of prejudice in general.
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Aug 26, 2007 19:53:50 GMT -5
Post by sephora on Aug 26, 2007 19:53:50 GMT -5
I agree- change does not start with condemning an entire group. I reread my post and now I see how it could be interpreted. That said, I do believe one of Ghandhi's quotes to be true: "To forgive and accept injustice is cowardice." We all know Ghandhi was a non-violent person. But he also stood for something. I believe that if someone makes a judgment, criticism, or statement that is out of line, it must be addressed as a wrongdoing so that other people will not lose faith. Humans lack the ability to truly see the condition of someone's heart the way God sees it, and I find it unacceptable to not just allow, but encourage judgmental behavior. There are many people who are not judgmental. I just wish the people who are judgmental would stop talking about people's lives that they do not understand.
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judgers
Aug 26, 2007 20:00:02 GMT -5
Post by To Seph on Aug 26, 2007 20:00:02 GMT -5
I agree- change does not start with condemning an entire group. I reread my post and now I see how it could be interpreted. That said, I do believe one of Ghandhi's quotes to be true: "To forgive and accept injustice is cowardice." We all know Ghandhi was a non-violent person. But he also stood for something. I believe that if someone makes a judgment, criticism, or statement that is out of line, it must be addressed as a wrongdoing so that other people will not lose faith. Humans lack the ability to truly see the condition of someone's heart the way God sees it, and I find it unacceptable to not just allow, but encourage judgmental behavior. There are many people who are not judgmental. I just wish the people who are judgmental would stop talking about people's lives that they do not understand. If you don't believe the bible, where is the common ground? The bible says their will be no fornicators in heaven. So where does that leave us?
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Aug 27, 2007 1:22:46 GMT -5
Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 27, 2007 1:22:46 GMT -5
I don't think any 'place' could be considered "spiritual". After all, a place is just a place. I do believe that one could have a spiritual experience no matter where they are. If it was a nudey bar, maybe their spiritual experience might be that they realized they're in the wrong place. Spiritual is different than religious in that spiritual has more to do with one's personal relationship with God, where as religious is more of a group's relationship with God. and then again, in a nudey bar...some men might just *think* they're having a spiritual experience. ;D J/k. That said, I totally agree with your post. M.
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judgers
Aug 27, 2007 1:23:54 GMT -5
Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 27, 2007 1:23:54 GMT -5
I think if He wanted to make contact with someone drinking a beer and watching a sunset at Kakadu, He could do it! Don't you?Bert: Most of the people on the TMB are Americans. They would hardly know where Australia is, let alone Kakadu. Just a thought! Now Git...you know I loves ya and all....but I see where a *couple* of these remarks are coming from. NOT nice. I'm an American, you know. BE NICE. ;D M.
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Aug 27, 2007 1:28:27 GMT -5
Post by Brad Lewis on Aug 27, 2007 1:28:27 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people? Were they taught this? Do they just believe that all non-truthers are hell bound so just stick their noses up? If you are in still in the truth pass this along to your "friends". If it wasnt for the blatant comments and superficial judgements... And not to mention bashing "worldly preachers" they may not be so bad. You might have started it off as "The friends exercise bad judment..." Then it would be more clear. Everyone uses judgement. Their's is just awful. Brad
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Aug 27, 2007 1:31:08 GMT -5
Post by _ on Aug 27, 2007 1:31:08 GMT -5
Brad,
Did you read my post to jennifur in this thread?
If so, then the same applies to you!
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judgers
Aug 27, 2007 1:31:11 GMT -5
Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 27, 2007 1:31:11 GMT -5
not generalising again, are ya Bradley? M.
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Aug 27, 2007 9:26:09 GMT -5
Post by no name on Aug 27, 2007 9:26:09 GMT -5
not generalising again, are ya Bradley? M. Seems to be his favorite pastime, doesn't it?
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