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Aug 25, 2007 23:55:58 GMT -5
Post by jennifur on Aug 25, 2007 23:55:58 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people? Were they taught this? Do they just believe that all non-truthers are hell bound so just stick their noses up?
If you are in still in the truth pass this along to your "friends". If it wasnt for the blatant comments and superficial judgements... And not to mention bashing "worldly preachers" they may not be so bad.
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Aug 26, 2007 4:07:26 GMT -5
Post by ii on Aug 26, 2007 4:07:26 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people? Were they taught this? Do they just believe that all non-truthers are hell bound so just stick their noses up? If you are in still in the truth pass this along to your "friends". If it wasnt for the blatant comments and superficial judgements... And not to mention bashing "worldly preachers" they may not be so bad. and of course your post is not judgemental
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Aug 26, 2007 5:50:35 GMT -5
Post by gloryintruth on Aug 26, 2007 5:50:35 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people? Were they taught this? Do they just believe that all non-truthers are hell bound so just stick their noses up?
Oh, the irony one finds on the TMB!
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Aug 26, 2007 5:54:42 GMT -5
Post by gloryintruth on Aug 26, 2007 5:54:42 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people?
Judgemental as in fitting everyone into the same category - in the same way that an entomologist classifies insects?
Just so long as we're all clear on the concept of judging.
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Aug 26, 2007 6:18:58 GMT -5
Post by 1 on Aug 26, 2007 6:18:58 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. how can they claim to be the way when they're spending half their time judging people then telling others about it (gossiping) the other half. What instills this into these people? Were they taught this? Do they just believe that all non-truthers are hell bound so just stick their noses up?Oh, the irony one finds on the TMB! Doubly ironic, since what she said is absolutely true.
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Aug 26, 2007 8:17:28 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 8:17:28 GMT -5
This is one of the main reasons I left the 2 x 2 group. Not only did the "friends" do it, so did some "workers". What is the phrase?? >> Misery loves company << I think that it makes them feel better to gossip about how someone isn't "right" so it makes them feel "right". Sad.
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Aug 26, 2007 8:22:17 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 8:22:17 GMT -5
I have never heard of a church which didn't have at least one gossip in it.
What church did you join?
You certainly couldn't have been in the First Church because there seemed to have been a few gossips there, too.
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Aug 26, 2007 8:37:53 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 8:37:53 GMT -5
Bert, I didn't join another organized church. I find that I can be just as spiritual without one. Probably even more so. People are beginning to wake up and see that they don't need a structure to enhance their spiritual experience.
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Aug 26, 2007 8:44:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 8:44:33 GMT -5
So when those first Christians met (at the risk to their lives) to worship on the Sunday, and Jesus appeared to them, you would have missed out?
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Aug 26, 2007 8:50:58 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 8:50:58 GMT -5
Bert, it might do you good to realize that the Christian belief is not the ONLY belief. As for your response/question, I wasn't living in that time so I can't answer your question.
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Aug 26, 2007 8:58:22 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 8:58:22 GMT -5
quote - "Bert, it might do you good to realize that the Christian belief is not the ONLY belief." That's so very true.
quote - As for your response/question, I wasn't living in that time so I can't answer your question. You already have when you wrote "they don't need a structure to enhance their spiritual experience." Those Christians had a strong structure, and it is recorded in the epistles.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:11:06 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 9:11:06 GMT -5
Bert, I am talking about people in the present day when I refer to needing no structure. I am not speaking about the past. Spirituality does not require a church. I am a spiritual person, not a religious person.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:16:34 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 9:16:34 GMT -5
"Spiritual" doesn't have the same meaning it used to have. On the weekend I read, to my amusement, how you can have a "spiritual" experience by having a beer and watching the sunset at Kakadu.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:22:43 GMT -5
Post by jh62 on Aug 26, 2007 9:22:43 GMT -5
God is not limited. Our beliefs of how to worship, where to worship, etc., do not confine God.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:27:26 GMT -5
Post by las logged out on Aug 26, 2007 9:27:26 GMT -5
Bert, I am talking about people in the present day when I refer to needing no structure. I am not speaking about the past. Spirituality does not require a church. I am a spiritual person, not a religious person. Church is meaning people not bldgs.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:27:36 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 9:27:36 GMT -5
Bert, there will be people on this board that know what I mean by "spiritual." Clearly you are not one of them. Good day.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:28:07 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 9:28:07 GMT -5
How to worship, and where to worship, concentrated the mind of God in the bible. God removed (and will remove) a lot of people who did not share His views on this matter.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:30:17 GMT -5
Post by las logged out on Aug 26, 2007 9:30:17 GMT -5
How to worship, and where to worship, concentrated the mind of God in the bible. God removed, and will remove, a lot of people who did not share His views on this matter. When those people were gathered on the shores and Jesus was in a ship teaching where was the bldg then? If a bldg. is needed so badly
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Aug 26, 2007 9:30:25 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 9:30:25 GMT -5
Las, I wasn't meaning a building. I think I mentioned "structure and church"; perhaps "system" is better understood.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:32:23 GMT -5
Post by las logged out on Aug 26, 2007 9:32:23 GMT -5
Las, I wasn't meaning a building. I think I mentioned "structure and church"; perhaps "system" is better understood. I wasn't trying to imply anything differant to what is being said ..just thought I'd throw that one in anyway
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Aug 26, 2007 9:35:07 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 9:35:07 GMT -5
Las, thanks lol
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Aug 26, 2007 9:36:59 GMT -5
Post by jh62 on Aug 26, 2007 9:36:59 GMT -5
Bert, I'm not meaning to be rude here, but I don't think you, or I or anyone else can say what "concentrated" the mind of God. His thoughts and ways are much higher than our thoughts and ways. Again, he is not limited by our beliefs. He's not limited to meetings in a home, or in a gospel meeting, or on a convention ground. He can do anything! I think if He wanted to make contact with someone drinking a beer and watching a sunset at Kakadu, He could do it! Don't you?
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Aug 26, 2007 9:39:53 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 9:39:53 GMT -5
quote - "... I think if He wanted to make contact with someone drinking a beer and watching a sunset at Kakadu, He could do it! Don't you?"
The issue here was the use of the word "spiritual" in this context. It just goes to show, someone could call something like a nudey bar "spiritual. Only, it isn't and can never be.
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Aug 26, 2007 9:51:48 GMT -5
Post by jh62 on Aug 26, 2007 9:51:48 GMT -5
I don't think any 'place' could be considered "spiritual". After all, a place is just a place. I do believe that one could have a spiritual experience no matter where they are. If it was a nudey bar, maybe their spiritual experience might be that they realized they're in the wrong place. Spiritual is different than religious in that spiritual has more to do with one's personal relationship with God, where as religious is more of a group's relationship with God.
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Aug 26, 2007 11:29:24 GMT -5
Post by Gossip is wrong on Aug 26, 2007 11:29:24 GMT -5
I have never heard of a church which didn't have at least one gossip in it. What church did you join? You certainly couldn't have been in the First Church because there seemed to have been a few gossips there, too. Gossip is as sin. If someone was taking part is some more obvious sin, they would be made to repent. SO gossipers should be made to repent. If they do not repent and continue in their sin they should be put out of the church. Gossip is a serious sin hurting many people, and should be treated accordingly.
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Aug 26, 2007 11:33:39 GMT -5
Post by I agree on Aug 26, 2007 11:33:39 GMT -5
jh62, that was marvelously articulated. Thank you!
I apologize to everyone for moving away from jennifur's original subject - let's hear more thoughts on that -
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Aug 26, 2007 11:36:00 GMT -5
Post by Gossip on Aug 26, 2007 11:36:00 GMT -5
At least
Sins like drinking, smoking, looking at nude mag, watching TV, etc. You are only hurting yourself.
But with Gossip you are hurting others. You hurt others. You hurt the people you tell the gossip to because then they are carrying around possibly mis interpretation information which they could tell some one else.
Gossip is evil and wicked.
And should be treated accordingly as something evil and wicked.
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Aug 26, 2007 14:11:34 GMT -5
Post by _ on Aug 26, 2007 14:11:34 GMT -5
the friends are judgemental. So then what are you for judging them as judgmental? What a shame that someone such as yourself as to stoop so low as to make false and sweeping judgments on an entire group of people... How pathetic....
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