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Post by Hun on Aug 25, 2007 20:31:58 GMT -5
Now that Charles Steffen has passed away, who will be the next head worker of New York and New England?
Possibilities: Albert Knaggs Ralph Miller Mike Dichiara Leslie White (native of Maine) MY CHOICE Dennis Kinnan Duane Topinka Bruce Shaw
Charles had been head worker since Sherman Farrar's death.
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 25, 2007 20:53:10 GMT -5
Bruce Shaw is in our field in Chicago this year. Isnt Leslie White the overseer in CO?
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Post by Cant believe it on Aug 26, 2007 8:07:37 GMT -5
Ralph Miller - Doubt that very much. He still can hardly give a good sermon. Maybe over home state of NE but even doubt that. Maybe NY can be blessed with Ron Thomke. Leslie White - doubt that very much either. That would be a real change in philosophy? How about Dan Helenek - PA?
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Post by different skills on Aug 26, 2007 13:18:20 GMT -5
Ralph Miller - Doubt that very much. He still can hardly give a good sermon. Maybe over home state of NE but even doubt that. Maybe NY can be blessed with Ron Thomke. Leslie White - doubt that very much either. That would be a real change in philosophy? How about Dan Helenek - PA? When you see "head worker," do you mean overseer? Being a good speaker is not necessarily needed to be an overseer. You need to have good organizational skills, see the "big picture" and be a good leader. Many overseers rarely speak (even at conventions) or take a small part in speaking. In fact, I have heard that some have been given overseer positions because they have not been gifted as evangelists.
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Post by Right on Aug 26, 2007 13:25:36 GMT -5
Right- Organizational Skills for an Unorganized Religion?
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Post by Cant believe it on Aug 26, 2007 17:07:41 GMT -5
Overseer, Headworker, whatever. Some places call them Lead Workers, Senior Workers even tho it isn't length of time in the work, Australia calls them Elders. Take your pick what you want to call them. I would like to know of one lead worker who isn't a good speaker at this time. I feel good speaking has a lot to do with who leads the state or whatever.
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 26, 2007 17:08:45 GMT -5
Overseer, Headworker, whatever. Some places call them Lead Workers, Senior Workers even tho it isn't length of time in the work, Australia calls them Elders. Take your pick what you want to call them. I would like to know of one lead worker who isn't a good speaker at this time. I feel good speaking has a lot to do with who leads the state or whatever. If the workers are Elders, then what do they call those who have meeting in their homes?
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Post by different skills on Aug 26, 2007 23:41:36 GMT -5
Overseer, Headworker, whatever. Some places call them Lead Workers, Senior Workers even tho it isn't length of time in the work, Australia calls them Elders. Take your pick what you want to call them. I would like to know of one lead worker who isn't a good speaker at this time. I feel good speaking has a lot to do with who leads the state or whatever. Mark Huddle is the overseer of Washington and Alaska (and maybe one other state?). He is not a gifted speaker at all. I was told one of the reasons he was given the overseer position was because he was a "veteran worker" who worked hard but was not a real strong speaker. I do not believe that he ever leads a Saturday night or Sunday convention meeting.
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Post by Oh No on Aug 27, 2007 0:22:59 GMT -5
Not Ralph Miller please! I think I would...um, regurgitate.
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Post by Henry on Aug 27, 2007 0:32:07 GMT -5
May I elect Paula White?
Perhaps she will reform and profess then become NY/New England overseer!
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Post by wondering on Aug 27, 2007 14:02:33 GMT -5
Angel - I believe in the good old USofA the top men in each of the states are called overseers or headworkers. The reference to Elder for the top man came to me directly from a lady in Australia. And like I said, some are just called Senior Workers even tho they are the oldest or have been preaching the longest.
Haven't heard that about Mark Huddle. Others may think he is great.
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Post by straight on Aug 27, 2007 14:31:05 GMT -5
Are you speaking of the Ralph that was involved in a scandal with a married man's wife? Or a different Ralph?
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Post by XXXYYY on Aug 27, 2007 20:04:46 GMT -5
My opinion:
They will probably pick one of the following because they usually pick "real winners" anyway. That seems to be the criteria...
Albert Knaggs - he can hardly manage PA or find his way out of a paper bag.
Ralph Miller - maybe he could mess around with all the married women in the rest of the state - he got shipped out of NYC for that very reason.
Dan Helenek - oh please - he is bad news - steer clear of him!!!!!!!
Dennis Kinnan - he just got moved to AL.
Don't really know enough about the others
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Post by Cant believe it on Aug 28, 2007 8:45:19 GMT -5
Ralph Miller and a scandal. Hard to believe. Expound a little on this one.
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Post by Couldnt believe until on Aug 28, 2007 19:32:03 GMT -5
researched his sudden departure from NYC
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Post by Cant believe it on Aug 28, 2007 20:51:53 GMT -5
When did he leave NYC? He has a new field now I see. No and NE NY. Is that the boonies? I wouldn't think Ralph would have enough ambition to tackle too much especially a w____n.
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Post by Typical on Aug 28, 2007 21:32:44 GMT -5
typical 2x2 MO, just move the workers around and sweep under the rug and the pile gets higher and higher!
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Post by Brick on Aug 29, 2007 3:29:06 GMT -5
George Lee? It would get him a little further from 'bama. Or Jeff Thayer? Moves him closer home and gives him a break from those naughty Iowans.
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Post by timber on Aug 29, 2007 8:08:32 GMT -5
Irving Ross or Barry Barkley?
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Post by former 2x2 on Aug 29, 2007 19:18:18 GMT -5
What about Don Bixby?
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Post by I nominate on Aug 29, 2007 19:23:23 GMT -5
I nominate GIT. As pompous as he and Charles Steffan both are/were, the folks in that area will barely notice the difference.
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Post by Southern Belle sees all on Aug 29, 2007 19:35:32 GMT -5
George Lee? It would get him a little further from 'bama.
They already moved George to TN - in essence that actually got him closer to some of the ladies he tangos with - how convenient. Talk about a major womanizer, he really thinks he is God's gift to women. If he moved to NY, it would be competition for Ralph Miller.
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Post by Who Decides on Sept 8, 2007 3:34:09 GMT -5
What I'd like to know is WHO decides who the next head worker is?
Do they all get together and have a popularity vote?
Heaven forbid they ever pray about it!!
Seriously though, who decides these things?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 4:00:32 GMT -5
Haven't you heard of the 2x2 high councils with representatives from the different major fields -- This is where appointments always come from these days, although 50 years ago it was sometimes local workers that had a say in the matter. These days local workers and friends are completely out of the process.
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Post by exocet on Sept 8, 2007 4:39:31 GMT -5
I heard that when the Scotland head worker died the other got together and had an election. No high council involvement.
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Post by hmm america on Sept 8, 2007 4:44:53 GMT -5
I heard that when the Scotland head worker died the other got together and had an election. No high council involvement. Scotland isn't in America. Im guessing it will be those control freaks, Dale Shulz, Barry Barkley, Willis Prop, Merlin Affleck and the like who will make the decision. Probably based on what THEY think is right. And who has the ability to excommunicate if needs be.
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Post by Iowegion on Sept 8, 2007 7:18:01 GMT -5
George Lee? It would get him a little further from 'bama. Or Jeff Thayer? Moves him closer home and gives him a break from those naughty Iowans. now you be nice.... we are good ole boys out here.... we don't do nun of that naughty stuff out here!
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Post by ken coolidge on Sept 8, 2007 7:26:35 GMT -5
I believe george Lee is from Florida
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