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Post by Observing on Aug 11, 2007 6:53:43 GMT -5
The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings.
Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness.
Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2007 7:06:05 GMT -5
quote - "... professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings." That doesn't make sense. ;D quote - "leeches", "crap" and "hypocrisy" Seems like you have a problem. p.s. You write "losing", not "loosing". ;D signed, confirmed and dedicated 2x2.
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Post by wounded past on Aug 11, 2007 9:46:17 GMT -5
observing:
do we ever totally get 'free' of the 2x2 stronghold?
my 2x2 upbringing was part good/part bad.
the bad part is like a old wound. it's healed but I still carry a scar. every once in awhile that scar itches & bugs me to distraction.
same as my 2x2 past.
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Post by Anonymous on Aug 11, 2007 10:00:39 GMT -5
quote - "... professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings." That doesn't make sense. ;D Sure it does. There are professing (Jesus as the Christ) friends and workers that do not go to meeting, but once did and there are some that do go to meeting. People that profess Jesus and leave the meetings are still professing Jesus and are still friends and workers of Jesus. You might be confused that "professing" means belonging to your church.
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Post by anexy on Aug 11, 2007 10:36:04 GMT -5
The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings. Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness. Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold? Many people who no longer go to meetings do not visit these boards. They have left the 2 x 2 system behind. Some find the postings of the hardcore 2 x 2's offensive and upsetting. Those people choose to stay away from here. Others of us pick and choose who we post to, sometimes we stay away for a while then pop back in. The only place I know of is by establishing contact with some of the ex's that post on these boards. Then going to e-mails for communication. I have privately messaged (pm) a number of posters who have patiently answered and encouraged me. You have to be registered to pm. Call up some ex's, even if you haven't had contact with them for years. I am always thrilled to talk with another who is walking or has walked a similar path. Maybe they can put you in contact with some others.
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Post by recentlyleftthankGod on Aug 11, 2007 11:06:33 GMT -5
The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings. Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness. Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold? Here is a nice group to join: M-T@yahoogroups.com
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 11, 2007 11:16:15 GMT -5
RE: The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings...I do not want to talk to 2x2s...Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold?
There are no boards totally free of the other group. If pro-2x2s bother you, I suggest you learn who they are on this board and ignore their post. However, some 2x2s have some valuable points to make. Clearday and GIT for instance. And some 2x2s are on the fence (undecided whether or not to stay in or out--trying to figure things out) People are at all different levels in their spiritual journey on here. Just like you are. It's not a bad idea to listen to what some of them have to say and just don't read the rest. It wont take you long to find out who is who. Bert & Nate are pretty active 2x2s on this board. Feel free to PM me if you would like more info.
BTW, the MT board has both on it. The S-T list is mostly 2x2s.
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Post by freespirit on Aug 11, 2007 11:37:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure we ever totally get away from our past--it is behind us and therefore keeps following us around. ;D
But God can heal us and show us a bright future.
peace, freespirit
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Post by Sylvestra on Aug 11, 2007 11:38:52 GMT -5
The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings. Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness. Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold? Dear Observing, If you register on this Board, you can send private message to those you know to be "x's". I also agree with Cherie's post to you to read enough here to know who to ignore and who to respond to. Best regards, Edy (another "x"
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Post by ranman77007 on Aug 11, 2007 11:45:41 GMT -5
if i have been rejected by standing true and accepted by M-T, does that make me an official "ex"?
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Post by las logged out on Aug 11, 2007 11:47:04 GMT -5
The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings. Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness. Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold? I think the purpose of this board is diologue between 2x2's & ex2x2's
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Post by psuedo 2s on Aug 11, 2007 14:54:22 GMT -5
In a way, I agree with the original post. We all know where to go if we want a refresher course in 2x2ism. If I wanted the official word on 2x2ism, I could easily find a bona fide practicing Worker to talk with, not some Worker-wanna-be who thinks they are filling a niche here that the real Workers must have overlooked.
2x2ism, by definition, is spread by two workers, orally. When an individual attempts to utilize an electronic medium on his own, it is no longer the real 2x2ism. Close, maybe, but ya ain't Workers!
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Post by Sue Doh twos on Aug 11, 2007 15:13:50 GMT -5
I don't think there are ANY 2x2s who post here.
The nearest are Bert and Nate, and they are not your normal 2x2s by any stretch
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Post by ii on Aug 11, 2007 17:48:01 GMT -5
I don't think there are ANY 2x2s who post here. The nearest are Bert and Nate, and they are not your normal 2x2s by any stretch yes and of course you would know seeing you are a 2x2 aye?
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Post by ii on Aug 11, 2007 17:50:22 GMT -5
The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings. Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness. Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold? i suppose it goes to show that you can be a christian and show a bad spirit to others in your post aye?
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Post by what about gloryintruth on Aug 11, 2007 17:57:13 GMT -5
Well what about the person who goes by the alias "gloryintruth"? Isn't he a hard-core 2x2? I may have missed some of what he has said...as he is a lttle bit long-winded. Then there is that idiot john kladstrop...but he's just a confused wannabe who isn't even a real person.
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Post by gloryintruth on Aug 11, 2007 19:55:14 GMT -5
[Observing Wrote] The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings.
Great. It is commendable that you have made up your mind regarding your faith, and have "set your face like flint" to follow your beliefs.
[Observing Wrote] Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?).
I am one of those bizarre characters: Professing-in-the-fellowship-and-never-ever-going-to-leave. I do not post furtively on this forum! And neither do my brother apologists, Bert, Nathan, and ii (and others). I think we make it pretty clear what our theological affiliation is in terms of our Church, so I wouldn't necessarily call our activities "secret".
You asked why we "2x2s" are here. We are here to do exactly what it says in the forum description at the top of the webpage: to post topics relating to the fellowship; to discuss other people's topics relating to the fellowship. I was not aware that this forum is, or ever was, or even was intended to function as, a mono-culture for exes.
[Observing Wrote] But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness.
Every denominational church - every church, full stop - follows some of "man's ideas". I have come to accept that this is an inevitable part of our Faith; it was not transposed from heaven completely packaged.
As for the evils you listed: putting people down, hypocrisy and outdated ideas - friend! You will find these vices wheresoever you go. If you believe that such things are unique to the fellowship, and that the only place you will find hypocrisy is among the friends, then I am afraid for you! You are in for a sad awakening when you discover (as I did, by the way) that hypocrisy can be far more gross out in the denominational sphere than ever it was in the fellowship.
[Observing Wrote] Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold?
I find it amusing that you describe our fellowship as a "stronghold".
Anyhow, good luck in finding what you are after. But a word to the wise: you get on better with people (both in and out of the fellowship) if you tone down the sarcasm a bit. All the best.
-A dedicated "2x2".
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Post by savedbyblood on Aug 11, 2007 23:14:17 GMT -5
quote - "Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?). But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness."
Observing - This seems to happen sometimes when those of us who are professing and are "on the edge" are able to see the differences between the 2x2 Way and the Way of the other Denominational Churches. There will always be infighting between "us and them," or the "have and the have not's," etc. because of human nature's unwillingness to admit defeat or a mistake. Whatever God's plan is for mankind, the overcoming of human nature is part of our service and devotion to Him as exampled by His Son Jesus Christ.
"Blessed are the peacemakers."
I have professed for 37 years and some of that time I was a very difficult saint for the Lord to have representing Him on the earth. I was rebellious in nature because His plan did not fit in with my schedule for Education, Excitement, etc so even though I was "Professing on the outside" my heart was somewhere else most of the time.
I have grown up.
I am still professing after this many years through so many hardships that even family and friends refer to me as "Job" and through all of it I have seen that my Lord Jesus Christ upholds me when I need the strength to carry on. Prayers by both professing and (regular?) Christians have done much to help intercede on my behalf and for my family's behalf to Jesus Christ.
I have learned the meaning of praying constantly.
Now with this being said, I have also over the past several years had my eyes opened to some of the mis truths and deception used by some of the Workers to hide the origins of the Truth as we know it and have seen and felt some of the wrath of the chosen Workers when I have questioned them concerning proof from scripture concerning a family matter. If you check some of my other posts you will see that I am probably on my way to being shunned and/or excommunicated by the very people I have naively followed for so many years.
The attitude of the supposedly offended Workers was out of proportion to my question (which was never answered) and then used to turn my request into a "peculiar wish" that "did not warrant a response." All I did was address a group of 3 workers who were all copied in an email as "you guys..." Talk about thin skinned!
Anyway, Observing, many of the professing people can give you answers to what you may be seeking. Don't close a book just because the you don't like the Prolog. You can also meet some very well prepared ex-2x2's here. You can also meet both ex-2by2's and professing 2x2's who are over the top, trapped in hate, dogma, rage or mind control and not being controlled by the Will of God.
Good luck to you. I hope and pray that you will find what you seek. If not here, then somewhere else that may bring peace to you.
Sometimes it's kind of fun to see all of the self-righteous fighting going on here. I would think that this is a good thing because this keeps the debate open and then maybe someday those in the Truth (2by2's) might see more openly the trap their mind has been in and work to release it and free their soul from the Law of the Overseers.
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Post by ann on Aug 11, 2007 23:33:20 GMT -5
Bless you, savedbyblood.
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Post by What on Aug 11, 2007 23:48:38 GMT -5
What does M-T stand for?
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Aug 12, 2007 0:16:07 GMT -5
To What...it stands for the Mercy & Truth email group. M.
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Post by not a woman on Aug 12, 2007 1:15:20 GMT -5
[Observing Wrote] The reason why I came on the board to meet up with professing friends and workers who do NOT go back to the meetings. Great. It is commendable that you have made up your mind regarding your faith, and have "set your face like flint" to follow your beliefs. [Observing Wrote] Apparently there are many 2x2 leeches here in secret (why? for what reason?).I am one of those bizarre characters: Professing-in-the-fellowship-and-never-ever-going-to-leave. I do not post furtively on this forum! And neither do my brother apologists, Bert, Nathan, and ii (and others). I think we make it pretty clear what our theological affiliation is in terms of our Church, so I wouldn't necessarily call our activities "secret". You asked why we "2x2s" are here. We are here to do exactly what it says in the forum description at the top of the webpage: to post topics relating to the fellowship; to discuss other people's topics relating to the fellowship. I was not aware that this forum is, or ever was, or even was intended to function as, a mono-culture for exes. [Observing Wrote] But I do not want to talk to 2x2 because it is obvious one will get drawn back into the OLD crap of following mans ideas, putting people down, hypocrisy and old fashioness.Every denominational church - every church, full stop - follows some of "man's ideas". I have come to accept that this is an inevitable part of our Faith; it was not transposed from heaven completely packaged. As for the evils you listed: putting people down, hypocrisy and outdated ideas - friend! You will find these vices wheresoever you go. If you believe that such things are unique to the fellowship, and that the only place you will find hypocrisy is among the friends, then I am afraid for you! You are in for a sad awakening when you discover (as I did, by the way) that hypocrisy can be far more gross out in the denominational sphere than ever it was in the fellowship. [Observing Wrote] Can anyone tell me where there is a place of just genuine ex professing friends free of the 2x2 stronghold?I find it amusing that you describe our fellowship as a "stronghold". Anyhow, good luck in finding what you are after. But a word to the wise: you get on better with people (both in and out of the fellowship) if you tone down the sarcasm a bit. All the best. -A dedicated "2x2". You certainly are a weird woman.
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